Why do engaged couples break up?

Hmm

in real life it often is over unsaid things that need to be talked about, like kids, where to live,etc (there was a great article I read that talked about 'millenial divorce", where millenials move in together without getting married and often end up breaking up. Reason? Like with marriages, they don't talk about what they want out of the relationship before moving in.

Some ideas:
1)Her or his family dominates their lives (lived through this one, on both sides of our family *gag*). he is a mamas boy, or his family doesn't think she is good enough (or vice versa) and their partner doesn't defend them.

2)Her or his family has the dynamic where they think it is good fun to put people down, not just themselves, but someone 'coming into the family'

3)The family (his or hers) treats a spouse, not as family, but as someone who is like a pet or something in terms of how they view them and treat them.

4)Hidden resentments that under the pressure of upcoming marriage explode. I know it seems trivial, but these can be big. So she resents that he spends so much time with his old buddies or his family, going golfing, etc, feels like he abandons her on the weekends. Or he feels like her career means more to her then him, she is working long hours (like for example, an associate at a law firm), is always talking about her making partner) and he feels neglected. Not so much she is working the long hours, but in the time they have together all she talks about is her job and the stress of it, and how much she is looking forward to being a partner...and there is basically nothing about him, it is all focused on that. (could be the other way, too). Among other things, makes the partner think that with all the attention on their partners careeer that they couldn't think too much of their or them, if the job means that much to them.



5)If you want to make it more modern, make it a same sex couple, where one of them might be in a different place (for example, a bi woman where this might have been her first true relationship, partnered with someone who sees herself as totally gay, ids that way). Could be strains on both sides, the bi woman seeing that being a same sex couple getting married has a different dynamic then a straight couple, worries about how she will be perceived by society, worried about being treated differently. It is unrealistic even now, to think that being a same sex married couple is the same as being a straight one, the dynamics are different. To make real conflict have it where the gay spouse to be can't understand why her fiancee cares what other people think or why it bothers her, and wonders if her fiancee can stay in a same sex marriage if she worries so much about that or if she is ashamed of getting married to another woman, if the bi partner doesn't regret not getting married to a man. It could come out in a variety of ways, like when the bi woman's family throws an engagement party for them and some of the family members make comments that are intentionally or uninitentionally cruel and the bi woman kind of distances herself from her fiancee during the party and after or defends them, or gets depressed and withdrawn.

Or they go to parties and events with friends of the gay partner to be, and she feels kind of ignored or left out because she isn't quite as into being part of the 'queer community', and feels like she is kind of treated with suspicion or is treated like a guest of a guest who was invited, that it was really the gay woman who was invited and she was just there, or even hostility that she is too 'het normantive' or whatever, and the bi woman's fiancee dismisses it or worse, tells her she isn't trying to 'fit in' (why the hell should anyone have to be anyone but themselves?).

Things like this do happen, and in coming together they both have to realize they are no longer going to be an individual only and they need to understand and connect with their partner,just just love or sex but in sharing fears and concerns and working as a team to make them better, to help the other person and acknowledge them and their feelings.

The funny part is if you break down what causes couples to fall apart, the underlying dynamics, straight, gay, "WTF", are often the same just packaged differently.

What brings them back together? That is the fun part. Missing each other of course, realizing how much the other person is part of them, but then there is the need in any story how the light bulbs go off, something happens that makes them reevaluate things (romance novels tend to follow a form with this, the thing that breaks them apart, the event that opens their eyes and the sex and other things that brings them back together). The fun part is the how to me, how does a breakthrough happen, who opens their eyes, etc. And it has to be two way, it isn't just one or the other IMO, rarely is one partner a saint and the other a sinner, it is reconciliation that requires admitting there was a problem with the old relationship, making amends for the stupid things they both did, letting the other person know they understand what was wrong, and committing to changing things to make it their relationship, not "my rellationship" and "my relationship".
 
I'm not sure if this is on topic or not. But I've known a lot of long-term non-married couples who decide to get married after decades of cohabitating and living for all intents and purposes like a married couple. Then, for whatever reason, they decide to legally get hitched. And damned if I know why, but it seems like a large majority of them GET DIVORCED and totally break up within a year or two. Why is that? I have a few theories, but I'd rather hear anyone else's thoughts. Seems like in most cases, they would have been better off not to fuck with a good thing.
 
I'm not sure if this is on topic or not. But I've known a lot of long-term non-married couples who decide to get married after decades of cohabitating and living for all intents and purposes like a married couple. Then, for whatever reason, they decide to legally get hitched. And damned if I know why, but it seems like a large majority of them GET DIVORCED and totally break up within a year or two. Why is that? I have a few theories, but I'd rather hear anyone else's thoughts. Seems like in most cases, they would have been better off not to fuck with a good thing.
cheating
 
I'm not sure if this is on topic or not. But I've known a lot of long-term non-married couples who decide to get married after decades of cohabitating and living for all intents and purposes like a married couple. Then, for whatever reason, they decide to legally get hitched. And damned if I know why, but it seems like a large majority of them GET DIVORCED and totally break up within a year or two. Why is that? I have a few theories, but I'd rather hear anyone else's thoughts. Seems like in most cases, they would have been better off not to fuck with a good thing.

it's never good to fuck with a good thing.
 
I'm not sure if this is on topic or not. But I've known a lot of long-term non-married couples who decide to get married after decades of cohabitating and living for all intents and purposes like a married couple. Then, for whatever reason, they decide to legally get hitched. And damned if I know why, but it seems like a large majority of them GET DIVORCED and totally break up within a year or two. Why is that? I have a few theories, but I'd rather hear anyone else's thoughts. Seems like in most cases, they would have been better off not to fuck with a good thing.

My first guess would be, those wery well might be, "once more into the breach" effort marriages, from one or both sides.

That in those cases the very idea of finally getting married after prolonged cohabitation can come as an attempt to meld some perceived deficiencies of the relationship. Then, contrary to expectations, but fully consistent with elementary logic, the formalization of the relationship doesn't bring the magical solution of their (very likely unvoiced) problems. That realization finally brings the relationship to (already beforehand destined) end.
 
My first guess would be, those wery well might be, "once more into the breach" effort marriages, from one or both sides.

That in those cases the very idea of finally getting married after prolonged cohabitation can come as an attempt to meld some perceived deficiencies of the relationship. Then, contrary to expectations, but fully consistent with elementary logic, the formalization of the relationship doesn't bring the magical solution of their (very likely unvoiced) problems. That realization finally brings the relationship to (already beforehand destined) end.

Thank you. That is my own theory, exactly.
 
I'm not sure if this is on topic or not. But I've known a lot of long-term non-married couples who decide to get married after decades of cohabitating and living for all intents and purposes like a married couple. Then, for whatever reason, they decide to legally get hitched. And damned if I know why, but it seems like a large majority of them GET DIVORCED and totally break up within a year or two. Why is that? I have a few theories, but I'd rather hear anyone else's thoughts. Seems like in most cases, they would have been better off not to fuck with a good thing.
That is a common scenario. Some of it IME is that they are now married. If you cohabitate, even for a long time, you feel like you have an escape hatch i.e if you decide it is over you pretty much can pick up and leave, you don't have any responsibilities or ties (which even with a cohabitating couple can be entangled, like if they bought an apartment together, etc). It is like a dog that gets upset if you close the bedroom door with them in it, they can freak because they feel trapped.

I think too that people who live together then get married, because they weren't married, didn't feel the need to talk about things they should of. For example, what if they got married figuring it was time to have kids, and suddenly one spouse discovers the other wanted to have multiple kids, insisted on it, and they didn't? Or a a (real world case),they get married because they decide to have kids, and then one spouse finds out she wants the kids to be raised in the religion they were, while the other one is an atheist. It never came up in their cohabitating days because the spouse wanting the kids raised like that didn't go to church, wasn't religious so it wasn't an issue. They were living together so long they got like a lot of log term couples, they left a lot of stuff unsaid that when married becomes an issue (and it could be where to live, one spouse wants to raise the kids in the burbs, other in the city; one spouse thinks one parent should be stay at home, other one doesn't agree, you name it).

And yeah, cohabitating couples can make the mistake people make with having kids, thinking that changing things will fix issues in their relationship, and instead of fixing them, actually make it worse.
 
One looked into the others internet browsing history, and found their literotica account.

I could see that going one of two ways:

I. "Oh my god, you're a pervert! Get out of here!"

II. "Oh my god, I didn't know you were into that! Come over here and do me right fucking now!!"
 
A pair of Mad Scientists, engaged and faithful, are screwing in the lab when the vat of liquid nitrogen springs a big leak and douses them. Flash-freezing results. A small tremor knocks their super-iced bodies onto the concrete floor where they shatter into small fragments. Helluva breakup there.
 
A pair of Mad Scientists, engaged and faithful, are screwing in the lab when the vat of liquid nitrogen springs a big leak and douses them. Flash-freezing results. A small tremor knocks their super-iced bodies onto the concrete floor where they shatter into small fragments. Helluva breakup there.

then all the kings horses and all the kings men put them back together again?
 
Children, one wants to try to have one now, the other is not ready. Which one of them caves in and compromises when they get back together is optional.
That exact scenario happened with my nephew. He was engaged to a previously married woman, ten years older than him. She already had two daughters, and one dead-beat dad. They broke it off, and she decided that my nephew was worth it to have another child in her early forties. They're happily married, and their daughter is now a sophomore in college. She realized that Butch(my nephew) was the right guy for her.
 
then all the kings horses and all the kings men put them back together again?

Humpty Dumpty. I could see a Literotica-spin on a Lewis Carroll scenario. That could be crazy freaky sexy! I doubt that I could do it justice. Where is Grateful Fred when we need him most?
 
I'm working on a story in which an engaged couple break up and get back together after a bad argument, but I can't think of an argument good enough to explain why they broke up in the first place.
Anybody have a good reason why an engaged couple break up?
And please, don't say one cheated, that's too easy.

It's difficult to think of anything that they wouldn't know about each other prior to getting engaged. But maybe something like she finds out that he expects her to stop working when they have kids, or they live in different cities, and each assumed the other would move when they got married.
Maybe one finds out that the other used to be a sex worker ... that's actually something that might cause a break up, but could be resolved later with some sensible conversations after they got over the shock.
 
they were "saving IT for marriage"...until one day they get carried away, and one is revealed as a transgendered person...
 
Naughty gal finds herself engaged to several guys at once. Keeping track of which ring to wear when going out with each is a mental exercise but she's up to it. For fun, business keeps her traveling a lot, so she marries each guy, one per month, each with a one-week honeymoon (maybe at the same resort, same cabin, confusing and/or entertaining the staff) before taking a break before the next Las Vegas wedding. Hilarity ensues.
 
There's an easy and serious route, both subtle and obvious: changing power dynamics (and no, it doesn't necessarily need to go to lengths of full D/s bdsm elements in a relationship, the everyday struggles with simple decisions would suffice).

Love: How the feeling of power determines happy relationships

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/06/210628132145.htm

The happiest couples were those in which both partners reported a high sense of personal power. "It appears that the subjective feeling of power and the feeling of being able to act freely significantly impact the quality of the relationship," Körner concludes. In most of these couples, both sexes stated that they were able to assert their preferences when making decisions that are important to them. According to psychologist Schütz, this is not necessarily a contradiction. "Maybe this feeling extends to different aspects of the relationship. Whereas the woman might want to decide on where to go on vacation, the husband chooses where to go for dinner. One thing to keep in mind is that our sample included rather happy couples, which favours effective negotiation. In other partnerships, there is definitely potential for conflict in this respect." However, it appears that both parties need to be able to make decisions about aspects that are important to them in order to be satisfied with the relationship.
 
I'm working on a story in which an engaged couple break up and get back together after a bad argument, but I can't think of an argument good enough to explain why they broke up in the first place.
Anybody have a good reason why an engaged couple break up?
And please, don't say one cheated, that's too easy.

engaged couples attract a lot of attention and not all of it good.
maybe have someone who sets out to seduce one or the other or both just to prove they were not the perfect couple.
 
If they're getting back together, you can't have anything insurmountable. It could be that he's a nerd and still loves comic books and collecting action figures, and she's worried he'll never change. Maybe he goes to ComicCon instead of her cousin's wedding. So they argue and break up. But he gives up his nerdy ways because he realises he loves her and wants to spend the rest of his life with her.

I'd agree with MisterTom's first sentence here. The scenario also calls for reconciliation, and I assume fairly rapid reconciliation. If you're striving for a realistic breakup/reconciliation, unless you want a lot of time to elapse, it has to be something fairly minor where the break-up is a flare of passion or temper or panic - and nothing really significant or insurmountable.

Where I have seen it happen it has been something minor that acts as the pressure valve for the stress of contemplating married life. A simple argument over a small event that gets blown out of proportion and makes one partner think the other doesn't love them...and then pretty rapidly realize they over-reacted.

There are some great "porn setups" here, and any other them will do if you're going to standard porn route. LOL - and dammit, no way in hell would I give up the joys of comic con for a partner! That's just going to far!
 
I'd agree with MisterTom's first sentence here. The scenario also calls for reconciliation, and I assume fairly rapid reconciliation. If you're striving for a realistic breakup/reconciliation, unless you want a lot of time to elapse, it has to be something fairly minor where the break-up is a flare of passion or temper or panic - and nothing really significant or insurmountable.

Where I have seen it happen it has been something minor that acts as the pressure valve for the stress of contemplating married life. A simple argument over a small event that gets blown out of proportion and makes one partner think the other doesn't love them...and then pretty rapidly realize they over-reacted.

There are some great "porn setups" here, and any other them will do if you're going to standard porn route. LOL - and dammit, no way in hell would I give up the joys of comic con for a partner! That's just going to far!

comic con could be a good setting for some rebound sex though.
 
I'm working on a story in which an engaged couple break up and get back together after a bad argument, but I can't think of an argument good enough to explain why they broke up in the first place.
Anybody have a good reason why an engaged couple break up?
And please, don't say one cheated, that's too easy.

OMG you have no idea how close I was to posting this same topic, only not engaged. Like, both people realize breaking up was a mistake, but "she said she wanted something else" and "he said he wouldn't change" and so they are both profoundly unhappy but unable to close the gap. BUT WHAT IS THE ARGUMENT?

In my story the BFF of the GF is in the middle. 'you realize you're being a complete bitch, right?' "Shut up."
'you realize she still loves you, right?' "That's *not* what she said."
 
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OMG you have no idea how close I was to posting this same topic, only not engaged. Like, both people realize breaking up was a mistake, but "she said she wanted something else" and "he said he wouldn't change" and so they are both profoundly unhappy but unable to close the gap. BUT WHAT IS THE ARGUMENT?

In my story the BFF of the GF is in the middle. 'you realize you're being a complete bitch, right?' "Shut up."
'you realize she still loves you, right?' "That's *not* what she said."

You can still do it. Your story may be a lot different than mine. Also, I'm still working on the idea and it will be a long time before I'm ready to publish it.


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Nick: "Listen to me Hillary. I'm not the first guy who fell in love with a woman that he met at a restaurant who turned out to be the daughter of a kidnapped scientist only to lose her to her childhood lover who she last saw on a deserted island who then turned out fifteen years later to be the leader of the French underground."

Hillary: "I know. It all sounds like some bad movie."

Top Secret (1984)
 
Nick: "Listen to me Hillary. I'm not the first guy who fell in love with a woman that he met at a restaurant who turned out to be the daughter of a kidnapped scientist only to lose her to her childhood lover who she last saw on a deserted island who then turned out fifteen years later to be the leader of the French underground."

Hillary: "I know. It all sounds like some bad movie."

Top Secret (1984)

but how do Nick and Hillary end up back together again?
 
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