Why bother?

[SgtSpiderMan]

You are the one that brought up the brakes on trains.

No. I didn't.

 

[Que]

No. I didn't.

Did too.

P.S. The light at the end of this argument's tunnel is not your salvation.

 

[phrodeau]

What do they call those things you hook box-cars up to in order to make them move?

Engines or locomotives. Here's a good reference for you. http://www.thomasandfriends.com/en-us/liftloadhaul.html

 

[Que]

Engines or locomotives. Here's a good reference for you. http://www.thomasandfriends.com/en-us/liftloadhaul.html

I thought it was a "Choo-choo?" Must be a regional thing?

So you hook up a bunch of stationary rail-cars to an engine or locomotive so that you can get them moving. Is there a name for on of those things in motion?

 

[Sean Renaud]

Of course you are! After all, it's only other peoples money! Even if we had an extra $70+ million, seems it might be more use full in mental health services and suicide crisis lines, but what the hell, it Might work!

Big of you to risk tax payer money.

As an American that's my money. YEah getting mental health services and crisis lines (I don't knwo that we have a shortage of the latter) would probably be a better use of money but putting up a net is easy and something we can do. Pushing through money for mental health care in America is completely impossible.

 

[doowdniw]

Have to agree with Ish on this one. If they want to depart badly enough, they'll find a way. SF has plenty of tall buildings from which to leap. They'll just land with a thud instead of a splash, and have a greater potential for collateral damage.

 

[phrodeau]

Have to agree with Ish on this one. If they want to depart badly enough, they'll find a way. SF has plenty of tall buildings from which to leap. They'll just land with a thud instead of a splash, and have a greater potential for collateral damage.

You think of alternatives. Have you thought about the long-term tax savings caused by installing the net?

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Have to agree with Ish on this one. If they want to depart badly enough, they'll find a way. SF has plenty of tall buildings from which to leap. They'll just land with a thud instead of a splash, and have a greater potential for collateral damage.

Those tall buildings are private property with security, locked doors and cameras.

 

[Que]

I am a little curious on how you design a net to catch a jumper that the jumper cannot jump out of...sounds like a fun engineering project.

This thread amuses me...I had no idea anyone would defend the expenditure. Probably why I shouldn't live in San Francisco.

As an American that's my money. YEah getting mental health services and crisis lines (I don't knwo that we have a shortage of the latter) would probably be a better use of money but putting up a net is easy and something we can do. Pushing through money for mental health care in America is completely impossible.

Why? same bill that says "for a net" can say "to establish a suicide prevention center"

This is San Francisco we are talking about. Isn't as thought there are two parties arguing about taxing and spending.

This is about someone's brother-in-law getting a multi-million dollar contract.

You think of alternatives. Have you thought about the long-term tax savings caused by installing the net?

I will wager it isn't 76 million dollars.

Those tall buildings are private property with security, locked doors and cameras.

So why not put up cameras, locks and private property signs on the bridge?

Can we please get back to discussing the brakes on rail cars? I am thinking I could make some money if I can adopt their apparent efficacy to cars. That is a LOT of heat transfer.

Don't be mean, explain to me how they work.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

I am a little curious on how you design a net to catch a jumper that the jumper cannot jump out of...sounds like a fun engineering project.

This thread amuses me...I had no idea anyone would defend the expenditure. Probably why I shouldn't live in San Francisco.



Why? same bill that says "for a net" can say "to establish a suicide prevention center"

This is San Francisco we are talking about. Isn't as thought there are two parties arguing about taxing and spending.

This is about someone's brother-in-law getting a multi-million dollar contract.



I will wager it isn't 76 million dollars.



So why not put up cameras, locks and private property signs on the bridge?

Can we please get back to discussing the brakes on rail cars? I am thinking I could make some money if I can adopt their apparent efficacy to cars. That is a LOT of heat transfer.

Don't be mean, explain to me how they work.

That would certainly defeat the purpose of having a bridge.

Feel free to start a thread on that topic.

 

[Que]

That would certainly defeat the purpose of having a bridge.

Feel free to start a thread on that topic.

What topic?

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

What topic?

It's the GB, so whatever floats your boat.

 

[Que]

It's the GB, so whatever floats your boat.

I thought we discussing the brakes on trains...

Boats don't have brakes, do they?

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

I thought we discussing the brakes on trains...

Boats don't have brakes, do they?

I certainly wasn't.

 

[Que]

I certainly wasn't.

Is it a secret how those rail-cars stop so quickly?

What can you tell me about boats?

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Is it a secret how those rail-cars stop so quickly?

What can you tell me about boats?

I don't know. You should ask someone who thinks they stop quickly instead of ascribing me positions I have not adopted.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Boats float.

 

[Beco]

Wait, Ish actually lives in Frisco?

I thought he was just being a typical old Republican asshole bitching about something Democrat.

Nobody calls it Frisco, anymore.....

 

[IrezumiKiss]

I thought we discussing the brakes on trains...

Boats don't have brakes, do they?

Well...how do they slow down?

By hitting dolphins or otters or something?

 

[Beco]

I thought we discussing the brakes on trains...

Boats don't have brakes, do they?

You gotta, sorta, down shift

 

[phrodeau]

Leave it to AJ and query to muss up a thread.

First AJ suggests people could kill themselves by jumping in front of San Francisco's "famous rail cars". I guess he meant "cable cars", since that's the more common name.

Then query confused them with the BART, apparently. And we were much amused.

Boats do have brakes. They call them "anchors".

 

[Que]

Leave it to AJ and query to muss up a thread.

First AJ suggests people could kill themselves by jumping in front of San Francisco's "famous rail cars". I guess he meant "cable cars", since that's the more common name.

Then query confused them with the BART, apparently. And we were much amused.

Boats do have brakes. They call them "anchors".

I guess you have never stopped a boat.

You stop the boat, then you anchor it.

Sometimes you stop the boat, drop anchor, then ease forward to set the anchor.

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I have no idea how you stop BART.

And how is a thread entitled "why bother' mussed up?

 

[pointless]

Leave it to AJ and query to muss up a thread.

First AJ suggests people could kill themselves by jumping in front of San Francisco's "famous rail cars". I guess he meant "cable cars", since that's the more common name.

Then query confused them with the BART, apparently. And we were much amused.

Boats do have brakes. They call them "anchors".

an anchor is more like a parking brake than a proper brake, dude.

 

[Que]

I don't know. You should ask someone who thinks they stop quickly instead of ascribing me positions I have not adopted.

Ive never engineered a train, so I have no idea how quickly you can stop a rail car. Since you seem hung up on the trains I assumed the despondent were driving to Sacramento to hurl themselves in front of rail cars.

Since you intimated that brakes on the rail cars would prevent untimely deaths if someone chose to jump in front of one, I figured you knew something about how quickly they stop.

As far as boats, it is mostly surface tension. The displaced water wants to require the space. This causes a lot more friction then you would think since water feels so slippery. Mostly you plan ahead. At low speed you can in some instances revers thrust or counter-rotate the screws.

So, how DO you keep them from jumping out of the nets?

 

[IrezumiKiss]

Explain something, perpetual pessimists.

If the net will just make people determined to commit suicide go find other more easier and accessible venues to go kill themselves, such as jumping off San Fran's numerous skyscrapers (which are apparently wide open for doing so) or hurling themselves in front of one of their scenic cable cars, then why would they go through all that trouble to jump into an awaiting net just to exert themselves further in trying to climb over it?

Isn't the point of suicide to make one's death easy so you don't have to think about it?

Isn't the point of jumping off a bridge in one fell swoop to kill yourself the very fucking point?

What, are all the people jumping going to possess American Gladiator-type physiques used to running Tough Mudder obstacle courses?