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And of course lives will be saved, at least in the short term, almost definitely in the long run as well.
 
Ulaven_Demorte said:
You know this thread is about keeping people from jumping off bridges right Cap'n One-Note?
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AJ has determined his "bro" is in a no-win argument, and is trying to shift the direction of the thread to where he has more favorable talking points.
 
Sean Renaud said:
Our taxes are too low and we're still recovering from a recession. It's not hard to figure out.
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So it has nothing at all to do with spending money on extremely expensive projects that benefit very few people and provide questionable benefit at all to anyone? My feeling is that a person that truly wants to die is going to find a way to do just that. It's not all that difficult to accomplish. So spending millions on a net that causes someone to choose a different way to end their life sounds like a good use of public funds to you? Not me.
 
loveupskirt said:
So it has nothing at all to do with spending money on extremely expensive projects that benefit very few people and provide questionable benefit at all to anyone? My feeling is that a person that truly wants to die is going to find a way to do just that. It's not all that difficult to accomplish. So spending millions on a net that causes someone to choose a different way to end their life sounds like a good use of public funds to you? Not me.
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If it just saves ONE life!!!


;) ;) :)
 
I know I should get next to you
You got a look that makes me think you're cool
But it's just sexual attraction
Not somethin' real so I'd rather keep wackin'

Why bother?
It's gonna hurt me
It's gonna kill when you desert me
This happened to me twice before
It won't happen to me anymore

I've known a lot of girls before
What's the harm in knowin' one more?
Maybe we could even get together
Maybe you could break my heart next summer

Why bother?
It's gonna hurt me
It's gonna kill when you desert me
This happened to me twice before
It won't happen to me anymore

It's a crying shame I'm all alone
Not with you, nor her, nor anyone
Won't you knock me on my head
Crack it open let me outta here.

Why bother?
It's gonna hurt me
It's gonna kill when you desert me
This happened to me twice before
It won't happen to me anymore
 
Ishmael said:
I'm gong to make a statement right now re. the net.

Not one single life is going to be saved, not one. Those hell bent on taking their own lives will just go elsewhere. Further, this contraption is going to bring with it problems of its own. Attention seekers now know they can leap the rail in relative safety, so they will. Tying up even more city resources yanking their sorry asses out of the net. And you watch the city count those morons as "lives saved." Bullshit, they never intended to die to begin with, they knew that net was there.

I also hope that the net is designed to completely entrap the jumper, otherwise they'll just crawl out of the net and finish the job. Wheeeeeeee, a twofer.

One, huge, waste of taxpayers money.

Ishmael
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What does the alternative cost?
 
When I look in the mirror
I can't believe what I see
Tell me, who's that funky dude starin' back at me?
Broken, beaten-down can't even get around
Without an old-man cane I fall and hit the ground
Shivering in the cold, I'm bitter and alone

Excuse the bitchin' - I shouldn't complain
I should have no feeling, 'cuz feeling is pain
As everything I need is denied me
And everything I want is taken away from me
But who do I got to blame?
Nobody but me

I don't wanna be a old man anymore
It's been a year or two since I was out on the floor
Shakin' booty, makin' sweet love all the night
It's time I got back to the Good Life
It's time I got back, it's time I got back
'n' I don't even know how I got off the track
I wanna go back, yeah!

Screw this crap, I've had it! I ain't no Mr. Cool
I'm a pig, I'm a dog, so 'scuse me if I drool
I ain't gonna hurt nobody, ain't gonna cause a scene
I just need to admit I want sugar in my tea
Hear me? Hear me? I want sugar in my tea!

I don't wanna be a old man anymore
It's been a year or two since I was out on the floor
Shakin' booty, makin' sweet love all the night
It's time I got back to the Good Life
It's time I got back, it's time I got back
'n' I don't even know how I got off the track
I wanna go back, yeah!

I wanna go back, I wanna go back
and I don't even know how I got off the track
It's time I got back, it's time I got back
'n' I don't even know how I got off the track
I wanna go back, yeah!

I don't wanna be a old man anymore
It's been a year or two since I was out on the floor
Shakin' booty, makin' sweet love all the night
It's time I got back to the Good Life
It's time I got back, it's time I got back
'n' I don't even know how I got off the track
It's time I got back, it's time I got back
'n' I don't even know how I got off the track
I wanna go back
 
 
4est_4est_Gump said:
Nothing.

Sharks got to eat to, same as the buzzards and the worms.
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The cop patrolling the bridge to stop suicides wasn't working for free. That's just off the top of my head.

I have a feeling they don't just leave bodies in the water. That's more of a Jersey thing.
 
SgtSpiderMan said:
The cop patrolling the bridge to stop suicides wasn't working for free. That's just off the top of my head.

I have a feeling they don't just leave bodies in the water. That's more of a Jersey thing.
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:rolleyes:

Cops working to stop thieves don't work for free.

Traffic cops don't work for free.

Cops are not proactive, they are reactive. We pay them to fish bodies out of all sorts of situations...

;)

Gonna build a big fence around the Mississippi?

People drown there on a regular basis...

:eek:

Gonna outlaw Blue Oyster Cult for Season Don't Fear the Reaper?

 
4est_4est_Gump said:
:rolleyes:

Cops working to stop thieves don't work for free.

Traffic cops don't work for free.

Cops are not proactive, they are reactive. We pay them to fish bodies out of all sorts of situations...

;)

Gonna build a big fence around the Mississippi?

People drown there on a regular basis...

:eek:

Gonna outlaw Blue Oyster Cult for Season Don't Fear the Reaper?

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That's an excellent point. When you have to pay a cop to work the bridge to prevent suicides that takes a cop off of working crime, traffic or whatever.

You brought up traffic cops & they are proactive. They do DUI stops and usually announce before major holidays that they'll be out in force so people don't speed or drive under the influence.

You're still actively avoiding the point. What does it cost the city of SF when someone jumps from the bridge? I don't really expect you to know, but that's kind of my point.
 
doubleover said:
I would guess it depends on three things.

Is the person a resident of SF?
What does the person make?
What tax bracket is the person in?
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I don't know for sure, but I imagine they make an attempt to remove the body from the water.

I think the larger issue is that the bridge is a major tourist attraction. I don't think the area wants tourists seeing people jumping from the bridge.
 
SgtSpiderMan said:
That's an excellent point. When you have to pay a cop to work the bridge to prevent suicides that takes a cop off of working crime, traffic or whatever.

You brought up traffic cops & they are proactive. They do DUI stops and usually announce before major holidays that they'll be out in force so people don't speed or drive under the influence.

You're still actively avoiding the point. What does it cost the city of SF when someone jumps from the bridge? I don't really expect you to know, but that's kind of my point.
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I do get your point.

I also understand that all we ever hear from your point of view is "the crumbling infrastructure" and the need for more taxes.

What in the hell is the cost of maintaining a net?

Or, if it saves JUST ONE LIFE...

;)

Is that then a justifiable reason to raise taxes yet again when we know that within just a few years of weather that we're going to be crying about the crumbling social safety net under the bridge?
 
4est_4est_Gump said:
I do get your point.

I also understand that all we ever hear from your point of view is "the crumbling infrastructure" and the need for more taxes.

What in the hell is the cost of maintaining a net?

Or, if it saves JUST ONE LIFE...

;)

Is that then a justifiable reason to raise taxes yet again when we know that within just a few years of weather that we're going to be crying about the crumbling social safety net under the bridge?
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That's ascription.

It might be better for the economy of the area to put up the net. That would be saving the taxpayers money.
 
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