Why are white politicians expected to prove...

[renard_ruse]

they don't "dislike" this, that, or the other non-white community?

I heard an interview with Karl Rove saying that its "important Republicans go into Hispanic communities and let them know they "don't dislike them."" WTF???

Who thinks any white "dislikes" any other group any more than any other group "dislikes" whites or any other other non-white group? Its 20Freakin12. My entire life whites have had NO LEGAL ADVANTAGES in any way, that's in MY ENTIRE LIFE. In fact, there have been legal as well as social and cultural disadvantes to being white throughout my life. When will non-white politicians prove to me they "don't dislike me"??? For that matter when will white politicians prove they "don't dislike me"???

This whole idea that non-whites are still in any way disadvantaged because of race or ethnic background has been bullsh*t for DECADES. In fact, my entire life. I'm sick of this false paradigm being accepted and parroted as gospel. Its ridiculous, and in fact, if anything its whites who are disadvantaged.

Enough of this obviously false, archaic paradigm already.

 

[oddity83]

Because all white people are racist.

 

[badbabysitter]

they don't "dislike" this, that, or the other non-white community?

I heard an interview with Karl Rove saying that its "important Republicans go into Hispanic communities and let them know they "don't dislike them."" WTF???

Who thinks any white "dislikes" any other group any more than any other group "dislikes" whites or any other other non-white group? Its 20Freakin12. My entire life whites have had NO LEGAL ADVANTAGES in any way, that's in MY ENTIRE LIFE. In fact, there have been legal as well as social and cultural disadvantes to being white throughout my life. When will non-white politicians prove to me they "don't dislike me"??? For that matter when will white politicians prove they "don't dislike me"???

This whole idea that non-whites are still in any way disadvantaged because of race or ethnic background has been bullsh*t for DECADES. In fact, my entire life. I'm sick of this false paradigm being accepted and parroted as gospel. Its ridiculous, and in fact, if anything its whites who are disadvantaged.

Enough of this obviously false, archaic paradigm already.

Your starting question is answered by your following quote from Rove


he refered to being " Republicans" having to go into the hispanic community... this implies that Hispanics are already " other"...then they are not part of " Republican culture" or whatever Karl Rove is trying to intimate


this is inherently indicative of an " us" versus " them" idealogy...Karl is not seeking Republican Hispanics but to convert as if there were some sort of political colonialism...

a classic example would be Ann Coulter stating about the black community as " our blacks are better than their blacks"


yeah, the blacks that belong to them are better then the blacks belonging to another idealogy... yet you somehow dont see that as denigration from an entire political faction

as for your " poor white man" drivel... you think its somehow a treat to being non-white in a culture which is still dominated by white folks... my boyfriend was first called a " nigger" when he was 10... by a man who had at least 30 years on him

on this board I have heard all the stereotypes.. the black man is a criminal, the arab man is a terrorist, the chinese guy is a communist, the first nations guy is a drunk

people are still turned away and shunned based on the colour of their skin.. it's not legal, but it still happens all the time.. you haven't had that problem mysteriously enough I imagine

 

[bronzeage]

they don't "dislike" this, that, or the other non-white community?

I heard an interview with Karl Rove saying that its "important Republicans go into Hispanic communities and let them know they "don't dislike them."" WTF???

Who thinks any white "dislikes" any other group any more than any other group "dislikes" whites or any other other non-white group? Its 20Freakin12. My entire life whites have had NO LEGAL ADVANTAGES in any way, that's in MY ENTIRE LIFE. In fact, there have been legal as well as social and cultural disadvantes to being white throughout my life. When will non-white politicians prove to me they "don't dislike me"??? For that matter when will white politicians prove they "don't dislike me"???

This whole idea that non-whites are still in any way disadvantaged because of race or ethnic background has been bullsh*t for DECADES. In fact, my entire life. I'm sick of this false paradigm being accepted and parroted as gospel. Its ridiculous, and in fact, if anything its whites who are disadvantaged.

Enough of this obviously false, archaic paradigm already.

Not white politicians, just Republican politicians. I'm sure you can figure the rest out, by yourself.

Did you hear Karl state that last paragraph, or did you make that up? Not even Karl Rove is that stupid.

 

[Cade Is Here]

Because all white people are racist.

You sound like a rory alt

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Someone please explain why racism is a problem.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

Someone please explain why racism is a problem.

 

[mercury14]

Did Ruse just say white people are disadvantaged?

 

[ChinaBandit]

Yawn.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

The white elite classes need to focus hate on other white people in order to keep non-white people firmly in their control.

 

[littleninja]

Racism is absolutely a problem, most white people are absolutely racist, and white people absolutely do have systematic and legal advantages over people of color.

Believing otherwise requires a significant amount of willful ignorance.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Note the smugness of the white posters here who are on the "right" side of the issue.


They know what the game is and play it every day by focusing on racism.


They keep the finger always pointed at Republicans,


Hoping the loudness keeps anyone


From looking back


At them...

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

More on the Power of the White Left:

The left has us pegged. They have identified all the secret racists on our side. They know how to call a spade a spade.

If you call a black man "angry," you are a racist.

If you call a black man "arrogant," you are a racist.

If you say that a black president plays too much golf, you are a racist.

If you ever say that welfare should include work requirements, as in the law that Bill Clinton signed and spent years (falsely) taking credit for, you are a racist.

If you complain, along with the experts who helped write and pass a welfare reform law, that the law's work requirements are being gutted by an (illegal) executive waiver of, yes, the work requirement, you are a racist.

If you talk about border security, you are a racist.

If you say that a president does not harbor the traditional views about what makes America great, you are a racist.

If you note that the president often wrote and spoke movingly about the great influence that a particular preacher had on him, and that the preacher is a white-hating, America-bashing radical, then you are a racist.

If you note, accurately, that some American judges have made rulings waiving American law in favor of sharia law, you are a racist.

If you use the word "dark" anywhere within six sentences of the name "Barack Obama," you are a racist.

If you oppose policies that treat people differently, for purposes of college admissions or drawing political district lines, you are a racist.

If you say that civil rights laws are meant to protect citizens of all races, even whites, you are a racist.

If you list hundreds of examples of voter fraud and think voters should be required to show identification, just as visitors to the Justice Department are required to do, you are a racist.

If you think that a civil-rights conviction that effectively has already been won -- against ex-convict, weapon-wielding, racial-invective-spewing goons -- should not be dropped, especially without public explanation, you are a racist.

If you cite specific instances, with numerous witnesses, of Justice Department officials saying they would not apply certain civil rights laws (or not apply them equally), you are a racist.

If you note that a president claimed a well-known Communist poet as his childhood mentor, you are a racist.

If you suggest that idolizing an absentee father who was a bigamist Kenyan radical might give a person a worldview a tad unusual for most Americans, you are a racist.

If you suggest that white lacrosse players should not be convicted without proof of raping a black stripper, you are a racist.

If you suggest that an over-eager Neighborhood Watch volunteer who tragically shot and killed a young black man might have acted for reasons other than racial animus -- even if you still say the shooter might have committed a crime -- you are a racist.

If you suggest that the prevalent definition of "hate crime," and the use of statutes pertaining thereto as a way to increase sentences based not on the action itself but on the alleged thoughts motivating it, is a violation of equal justice under the law, you are a racist.

If you say there's no excuse for the establishment media to take an anti-Semitic, racial-incident-instigating, false-police-accusing scofflaw, and treat him as a legitimate and respected political leader, you are a racist.

If you note that a liberal president has severely relaxed rules for food stamps and that food stamp rolls have vastly increased on his watch, you are a racist.

If you suggest that an attorney general who happens to be black has prevaricated about a gun-running sting gone badly wrong, you are not really worried about the tragic mistake or the cover-up thereof; you are a racist.

In fact, if you object to any policies or actions of said AG or his political appointees, you are a racist.

If you even dare to suggest that the federal government should be limited, you are racist.

Especially if you suggest that federal social services are inefficient, you are not just racist, but a vicious and particularly dangerous racist.

If you are a conservative white southerner, you are by definition a racist. (And if you are a conservative black person, you are by definition an Uncle Tom.)

If you shout "U.S.A.! U.S.A.!" at a party convention, especially if a Latino speaker is at the podium, you are a racist. (By some lights, if you pronounce yourself a patriot in any way, shape, or form, you are a racist.)

If you defend anybody accused of being a racist, you are a racist.

If you vote Republican most of the time, you are a racist. If you support the Tea Party movement, you are a racist. If you are a conservative of any sort, you are a racist….

Okay, then: No matter what my or your long history of fighting racism may be, I am a racist and so probably are you. And, by those lights, I am damn proud of it.

Quin Hillyer, Racists of the World, Unite
http://spectator.org/archives/2012/08/31/racists-of-the-world-unite/print

 

[RobDownSouth]

Did Ruse just say white people are disadvantaged?

He's a poster child for white resentment.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Racism is absolutely a problem, most white people are absolutely racist, and white people absolutely do have systematic and legal advantages over people of color.

Believing otherwise requires a significant amount of willful ignorance.

You make an appeal for faith but dont address how racism is a problem. Recall that the President is black and got elected inspite of whites being racist.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

More on the Power of the White Left:


Quin Hillyer, Racists of the World, Unite
http://spectator.org/archives/2012/08/31/racists-of-the-world-unite/print

Racism is the Lefts boogieman to scare middleclass whites shitless and forfeit the dictionary and reality for some peace.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

It's a treacherous business exercising your freedom of speech in the age of Obama. As a public service, I present to you: "The 2012 Condensed Liberal Handbook of Racial Code Words." Decoder rings, activate!

--Angry. On the campaign trail this summer, President Obama has become -- in the words of the mainstream Associated Press -- more "aggressive." But don't you dare call him "angry." According to MSNBC host Toure, that's racist!

"You notice he said 'anger' twice," Toure fumed in response to a speech last week by GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney. "He's really trying to use racial coding and access some really deep stereotypes about the angry black man." Or maybe Romney is just accurately describing the singular temperament of the growling, finger-jabbing, failure-plagued demagogue-in-chief. It's about the past four years, not 400 years. Sheesh.

--Chicago. The Obamas and their core team of astroturfers, pay-for-play schemers and powerbrokers hail from the Windy City. This is a simple geographic fact. But in progressive of pallor Chris Matthews' world, it's an insidious dog whistle. The frothing cable TV host attacked Republicans this week who have the gall to remind voters of the ruthless Chicago way.

"(T)hey keep saying Chicago, by the way. Have you noticed?" Matthews sputtered. "That sends that message: This guy's helping the poor people in the bad neighborhoods and screwing us in the 'burbs."

Actually, it's a pointed reminder that the radical redistribution politics of Chicago-on-the-Potomac have done little to alleviate the suffering of impoverished Americans in violence-plagued, job-hungry inner cities everywhere. Racist!

--Constitution. Fox News contributor Juan Williams, who proudly calls himself a "real reporter," has apparently added real telepathist to his curriculum vitae. Earlier this year, he read the minds of Republicans and conservatives whom he accuses of deep-seated bigotry when they show any public reverence for our founding principles, documents and leaders.

"The language of GOP racial politics is heavy on euphemisms that allow the speaker to deny any responsibility for the racial content of his message," Williams wrote. "References to a lack of respect for the 'Founding Fathers' and the 'Constitution' also make certain ears perk up by demonizing anyone supposedly threatening core 'old-fashioned American values.'"

...

--Experienced. A significant population of American voters believes that qualifications actually matter when running for the highest office in the land. Chilling, isn't it? They might as well sport KKK hoods. In the judgment of one Basil Smikle of The Century Foundation, "experienced" is a dreaded "racial code word."

Intoned Smikle: "Experienced? Does it really mean the time that he spent in the Senate, or does it mean, 'Well, does that guy have the same kind of experience in life that I have?' ... What does inexperience really mean?"

Maybe it just means what critics meant it to mean: "Does this guy have experience beyond the measly 304 days he served when the U.S. Senate was in session before he announced his first presidential bid?" I know: Racist!

--Food Stamp President. At the dawn of the modern federal food stamp program, one in 50 Americans was enrolled. This year, one in seven Americans is on the food stamp rolls. The majority of them are white. Obama's loosening of eligibility requirements combined with the stagnant economy fueled the rise in dependency. "Food stamp president" is pithy shorthand for the very real entitlement explosion.

Democrats fumed when former GOP candidate Newt Gingrich bestowed the title on Obama and decried its purportedly racist implications. But who are the racists? As Gingrich scolded the aforementioned race troll Chris Matthews last week: "Why do you assume food stamp refers to blacks? What kind of racist thinking do you have? You're being a racist because you assume they're black!" Time to find a new code word.

--Golf. This one's a gobsmacker. Beltway barnacle Lawrence O'Donnell appeared on cable TV to decry Republicans who mention Obama's frequent golf outings. He singled out Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell's convention speech Wednesday night, which joked that Obama "was working to earn a spot on the PGA tour." The warped racial radar of pasty Lawrence O interpreted this golf joke as "Obama equals Tiger Woods equals RACISM."

Huh? "These people reach for every single possible racial double entendre they can find in every one of these speeches." O'Donnell expertly explained. "Things are getting lower and lower by the day," host Martin Bashir agreed.

...

--Holding down the fort. Obama's State Department diversity officer now advises us, based on admittedly dubious history, that "holding down the fort" is an anti-Native American idiom that has no place in U.S. discourse. Example: "I know you guys have been holding down the fort." Oops, that was Obama at a Tampa rally in 2008. Next...

--Kitchen cabinet. Radio talk-show host Mark Thompson jumped on Romney for using this phrase -- coined to describe Andrew Jackson's administration in the 1800s -- at the NAACP convention in July. Romney was referring to a close member of his staff during his tenure as Massachusetts governor.

"To talk about being in the kitchen and not talk about an African-American actually being in your cabinet is really not a good metaphor to use with African-Americans," Thompson blasted. Is it racist to ask: Huh?

--Obamacare. Left-wing Daily Beast columnist Michael Tomasky accused Romney of "race-baiting" by wielding the term "Obamacare." The Beltway shorthand for this behemoth federal spending program exposes Romney as a "spineless, disingenuous, supercilious, race-mongering pyromaniac" because it is a "heavily loaded word," Tomasky railed.

How then to explain the use of the Bull Connor-channeling epithet by none other than the Obama campaign, which peddles "I like Obamacare" T-shirts on its website? Logic is racist.

--Privileged. Stay with me here. Washington Post writer Jonathan Capehart has a problem with Texas GOP Gov. Rick Perry calling Obama "privileged." Spotlighting his elite education is tantamount to racial bigotry because it insinuates that "he took the place of someone else through affirmative action, that someone else being someone white."

...

--Professor. Several progressive black intellectuals excoriated 2008 GOP vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin for this statement: "They know we're at war, and to win that war we need a commander in chief, not a professor of law standing at the lectern."

"Professor," professor Charles Ogletree said, was code for "uppity." This translation service is available only to credentialed Ivy League eggheads. A saner criticism would be that Obama was never a professor of law, but an untenured lecturer. Racist? Tell that to Hillary Clinton, whose 2008 campaign made that very point.

--You people. Asked last month whether her husband would release more tax returns, Ann Romney told a pack of reporters: "We've given all you people need to know and understand about our financial situation and about how, you know, how we live our life."

A chorus of faux-ragers from the Huffington Post to NBC's Andrea Mitchell hammered Mrs. Romney for her double-whammy sandwich of elitism and racism. Apparently, "you people" is the verbal equivalent of putting black people back in chains. One little, teeny-tiny problem: ABC News admitted: "Our ruling after reviewing the original audio is that she did not include the 'you.'"

In other words, it was manufactured out of whole cloth. Give the dog-trombone media another black mark for ridiculous bias denial. "Black mark"? I know: Raaaaaaaaaaacist!

Michelle Malkin (often referred to as an anchor baby by white leftists at Lit)
http://townhall.com/columnists/mich...eral_handbook_of_racial_code_words/page/full/

 

[RobDownSouth]

Note the smugness of the white posters here who are on the "right" side of the issue.
They know what the game is and play it every day by focusing on racism.
They keep the finger always pointed at Republicans,
Hoping the loudness keeps anyone
From looking back
At them...

That's right, Chief. You're a victim....A VICTIM, DAMMIT!

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

STFU White Nigger.

 

[littleninja]

You make an appeal for faith but dont address how racism is a problem. Recall that the President is black and got elected inspite of whites being racist.

We could start with the use of racial slurs in a thread claiming that racism is not a problem.

Racism doesn't affect white people, which is why they can remain blind to the atrocious history of a word like n----r and toss it around like it doesn't mean anything, this while knowing there are black people posting in the same forum.

Don't care about the effect a word like that, a word that has been used to dehumanize and justify oppression of black people over the course of American history? Don't care how it might hurt someone who has to face that kind of dehumanization on a regular basis? Don't care about the experience of people for whom that word is a weapon?

Is it because "those people" aren't human enough to warrant the consideration of not having dehumanizing slurs uttered in their presence? Seems racist to me.

"We have a black President, so we are post-racial" makes as much sense as "I can't be racist, I have a black friend."

Maybe republicans feel the need to make a statement about "not disliking" the Hispanic community because they are a group of powerful white men attempting to make and pass laws that disproportionately disenfranchise the hispanic community, as well as others.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

We could start with the use of racial slurs in a thread claiming that racism is not a problem.

Racism doesn't affect white people, which is why they can remain blind to the atrocious history of a word like n----r and toss it around like it doesn't mean anything, this while knowing there are black people posting in the same forum.

Don't care about the effect a word like that, a word that has been used to dehumanize and justify oppression of black people over the course of American history? Don't care how it might hurt someone who has to face that kind of dehumanization on a regular basis? Don't care about the experience of people for whom that word is a weapon?

Is it because "those people" aren't human enough to warrant the consideration of not having dehumanizing slurs uttered in their presence? Seems racist to me.

"We have a black President, so we are post-racial" makes as much sense as "I can't be racist, I have a black friend."

Maybe republicans feel the need to make a statement about "not disliking" the Hispanic community because they are a group of powerful white men attempting to make and pass laws that disproportionately disenfranchise the hispanic community, as well as others.

How familiar are you with African history and traditions? The other thing is, why would any self-respecting Nigga give a shit what an old racist like me says or thinks? What makes my opinion so special that Niggaz file for PTSD disability when I blabber?

I suspect racism is a game whites play with each other, and the Niggaz got better things to do than join in the fun. This nation has a history of Nigga ass kissing, but when all is said and done the Niggaz worse off.

 

[littleninja]

How familiar are you with African history and traditions? The other thing is, why would any self-respecting Nigga give a shit what an old racist like me says or thinks? What makes my opinion so special that Niggaz file for PTSD disability when I blabber?

I suspect racism is a game whites play with each other, and the Niggaz got better things to do than join in the fun. This nation has a history of Nigga ass kissing, but when all is said and done the Niggaz worse off.

Clearly, more familiar than you.

But I'm guessing this is a pointless discussion.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Someone please explain why racism is a problem.

Because it still exists. What, did you think it was a thing of the past?

 

[KingOrfeo]

Racism is absolutely a problem, most white people are absolutely racist, and white people absolutely do have systematic and legal advantages over people of color.

Believing otherwise requires a significant amount of willful ignorance.

Hey, welcome back to the GB, ninja!