Why are men never honest???

Melanie_24

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Can anyone tell me that? After a certain amount of time it always comes out that they have been lying for the last couple of weeks, months or even longer... Or am I wrong guys? :). My friend just dumped me and had a new girl for some time. That's the reason for this topic.

grtz,

Melanie
 
I will not speak for all men...just myself. I like to think I am honest. Sure, there have been times I have exaggerated, embellished, even lied to someone. I think just about all of us have at one time or another.

But...I am pretty much "what you see and hear is who I am" kinda guy. I guess some guys what their cake and eat it too. Besides...it is easier to tell a lie and try to avoid a problem (or getting into trouble). But usually...the lie just leads to more trouble.

But...that's my 2 cents worth
 
I’m sorry to hear.. but all it just seems like men lies more because they always get caught in their lies. But women lie too… they’re just better at keeping it a secret. Not all men are dogs like you ex but a lot of them are like that because the are not “”Men”” yet. They are merely boys who thinks that they are still pimping. Sorry but pimping are for boys.. a real men don’t play those kind of game. It’s okay that your little boy left you… you wouldn’t want to be with some immature kid.
 
I never lie to a woman because lies always are exposed, one way or another. Even the little ones.

But, men in general are more concerned with the now, then with the later, so a lie to help with today is OK in their minds. This is not true for every male, of course, just some.
 
Sorry to hear you got dumped but that is a pretty bold statement. Untrue, sexist and above all a rationalization for your lost relationship..Its like saying all women are cock teasers or frigid or whatever, based on why guys are here...Go out, get layed, get over it.
 
Hi hun,
Sorry to hear about your heartbreak.

I have been betrayed a sexual partner that I totally trusted by lies and it's just so unnecessary. I wonder what makes a person think that they feel they need to lie to me when I am completely up front with them. Don't put me on a pedestal so high that you have to make up lies to impress me.

However, I have learned that some people are so scared that we will think less of them that they lie to tell us what we want to hear. That sucks. However, I also see alot of people can't handle the truth which takes as much maturity to handle as telling the truth when someone has made a mistake.

I have no place for liars in my life including friends and family. So I have quite an eclectic circle of family and friends that are mature and courageous to live in transparent honesty.

Finally, when it comes to my sexual partners, I find it safer to assume they are lying about their backgrounds first. Then as I get evidence that they are truly disease free, unmarried, etc...I then let my guard down.

Here's a big lick right there for ya!

:p
Love, Mom
 
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hotncmom said:
Hi hun,
Sorry to hear about your heartbreak.

I have been betrayed a sexual partner that I totally trusted by lies and it's just so unnecessary. I wonder what makes a person think that they feel they need to lie to me when I am completely up front with them. Don't put me on a pedestal so high that you have to make up lies to impress me.

However, I have learned that some people are so scared that we will think less of them that they lie to tell us what we want to hear. That sucks. However, I also see alot of people can't handle the truth which takes as much maturity to handle as telling the truth when someone has made a mistake.

I have no place for liars in my life including friends and family. So I have quite an eclectic circle of family and friends that are mature and courageous to live in transparent honesty.

Finally, when it comes to my sexual partners, I find it safer to assume they are lying about their backgrounds first. Then as I get evidence that they are truly disease free, unmarried, etc...I then let my guard down.

Here's a big lick right there ya!

:p
Love, Mom

see moms know best. It hard for other people to handle the truth so they lie to put up a front. When you first meet anyone... just assume that they're lying already until proven wrong.
 
Wile E said:
I never lie to a woman because lies always are exposed, one way or another. Even the little ones.

I challenge you in that statement.

Here are some direct questions women ask men that they have either lied about in their lifetime:

1. Do you think so and so is pretty?
2. Do I look fat in these pants?
3. What did you think of my family?
4. Honey, are you happy in our relationship?
5. Were you checking out the babysitter, my sister, the neighbor's daughter?
6. Have you ever fantasized about someone else while we were having sex?
7. Do you wish my boobs were bigger?
8. Who's meatloaf is better mine or your mothers?
9. What sexual fantasies would you like to try with me?
10. Are you married?

One yes disqualifies you as never having lied to a women.

Believe me if men (and women) had the balls to answer those questions honestly with their mates, my inbox wouldn't be so filled with married or committed partners who aren't having their "needs" met!!!

Never is a strong statement babe.
Licks and kisses, Mom
 
Melanie_24 said:
Can anyone tell me that? After a certain amount of time it always comes out that they have been lying for the last couple of weeks, months or even longer... Or am I wrong guys? :). My friend just dumped me and had a new girl for some time. That's the reason for this topic.

grtz,

Melanie

I am really sorry to hear about this. I have never kept any MAJOR secrets in a relationship. Never really been dishonest either. Some guys are just like that and you have to deal I guess. I am not saying that it is a good thing... but it happens in life. My ex left her last boyfriend and she was already seeing me. Girls do it too.

I just got out of a long relationship myself that lacked alot of communication towards the end. It will get better... it is going to take a lot of time(just like for me) but we will move on and meet great people!
 
RMAO i like this mom. i wish my mom was as wise as you... maybe then would i have been better with my decisions in men.
 
Re: Re: Why are men never honest???

ifun26 said:
I am really sorry to hear about this. I have never kept any MAJOR secrets in a relationship. Never really been dishonest either. Some guys are just like that and you have to deal I guess. I am not saying that it is a good thing... but it happens in life. My ex left her last boyfriend and she was already seeing me. Girls do it too.

I just got out of a long relationship myself that lacked alot of communication towards the end. It will get better... it is going to take a lot of time(just like for me) but we will move on and meet great people!

Eureka we found one!
An honest man!
OMG I so agree with you on how women like monkeys, don't let go the vine before they grab onto the next one.
That is my biggest female pet peeve. Makes me sick.
When I left my ex I had never been with anyone else for over 20 yrs. No way... not even an option. Not saying there wasn't the tempation but there's a big difference between being tempted and acting on it.
Thanks for your honesty.
Look me up when you dump your girlfriend.
:devil:
 
Not only do I hardly ever lie, but I'm not even very good at it. ;) So I almost always tell the truth, even to the point of bluntness sometimes.
 
Not all of us are self centered, lying jerks.

I'm the one that it appears gets lied to all the time in a relationship. The last 2 have been better, but most of my relationships ended because my g/f was lying tome about something serious.

Small lies, like "No you don't look fat in those pants" are to be expected. They are different. And the so-called lie is still truthful to me, because, in the case of the pants, my g/f would look good in anything to me.(Mind you, I prefer my g/f's on the plump side)
Of course, if it was REALLY bad, then I would suggest trying something else on because the pants just don't look good on her.

Theres sometimes a subtle difference between lying and modifying the facts tomake a person feel better.

Lying about serious issues, such as a "piece" on the side, is always a no-no. And I have never done it. And don't respect anyone who has done it. It's been done to me, so I know what it feels like. And because of me being the caring person I am, I would never want to subject a g/f to that.

For a guy to be brutally honest, 100% all the time, he would get called an arrogant self centered asshole.

But if you could put a small twist on the small stuff (the pants for instance) you could make a negative sounding truth into a positive.
 
hotncmom said:
Believe me if men (and women) had the balls to answer those questions honestly with their mates, my inbox wouldn't be so filled with married or committed partners who aren't having their "needs" met!!!


Licks and kisses, Mom

If that isn't the truth I have never heard the truth.
 
Oh yeah and just because you don't share something big...is still a lie...called a lie of ommission.
I agree on the small stuff.
It's just that the one guy said he "never" lied to woman.
We don't necessarily differentiate white lies from big lies when we catch you guys in a big one.
When we catch you guys in a big ass lie you have then voided your privilege of telling the white lies. We gals have a tendency to mix them all into one big Liar's Soup then it's almost impossible to redeem yourself.
That's why I stated that we have to be big enough to handle the truth as well.
Man, vicious circle.
 
Honesty

I tend to be too honest sometimes... brutally... lol

If you don't wanna know what I think... don't ask me! :)
 
I plan on moving this summer and then get a dog..
they dont lie and should he even do as much as look at someone else I can get him castrated :)

Joking aside, I am seriously fed up with it too, and I found that American guys are on average worse than any other nation I dealt with (I am from Europe and grew up in a very multicultural environment)
 
actually part of the reason my marriage didn't last, is that I was much more honest than my now ex-wife


I have a major problem with someone with whom you are that close lying to you
 
Life is too short to tell lies... if you have to lie to someone to make her happy or to keep your ass out of trouble, you're in the wrong relationship with the wrong person. And I've NEVER lied about anything on mom's list. Don't give up on us boys... we're not all south bound ends of a north bound horse.
 
I think it is more that women want to be lied to. They have no interest in the men who do not "lie". They want the bad boy , the troublemaker. Too freaking bad when it bites their ass.

Sorry but I have been the honest guy that always ends up the "friend" who the women come crying to when their latest asshole dumps them.
 
Remember:
Even if 100% of the men you know have lied to you, that doesn't mean that 100% of men lie, and that any new man that comes your way should be given a fair shot. A little apprehension is understandable, but to judge an entire gender based on your experiences is not. There are about 3 billion men in this world, and though we've all lied at some point in our lives, one must maintain an open enough mind to realize we're all individuals.
 
GB_Gentleman said:
I think it is more that women want to be lied to. They have no interest in the men who do not "lie". They want the bad boy , the troublemaker. Too freaking bad when it bites their ass.

Sorry but I have been the honest guy that always ends up the "friend" who the women come crying to when their latest asshole dumps them.

There is much wisdom in your words. One of my best friends is one of those nice guys and he comes running to me when his freak ass girlfriend gets mad cuz he's so thoughtful or too flexible or accomodating (spelling)???? WHAT IN THE WORLD!

Ben - I have to admit...it is that very kind of thinking from men that makes me love them so much! You are so cute.

I've been burned by a few liars, it sucks. I mean, I hit a streak of dating 3 married men in a row! So after the last one, I realized I must have had a sign on my forehead that said, "Tell me what I want to hear, Fuck me, Lie to me so I can find out the truth from others. PLEASE!" After #3, I learned my lesson and stopped being a dumb ass since I think we all have a responsibility here.

If you don't want to be lied to don't go out with Ben. LOL!
If you want a great guy or gal, then look me or GB up!
Big kiss for liars and nice guys!
 
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Well... to be honest, most people - men and women - lie about their relationships. They want what they want, when they want it, and often they want backup plans, alternatives, etc.

Personally, I'm arrogant enough to be honest in my personal relationships; if someone doesn't want me, find me interesting, etc., I don't want to waste my time or theirs -- there are plenty who do (and not because I'm drop-dead gorgeous or anything; its just there are always more people out there to meet and become friends - or more - with).

My wife and I are very upfront and honest, both with each other and the others we admit to our hearts and bedroom; saves time and hurt feelings in the long run.
 
GB_Gentleman said:
I think it is more that women want to be lied to. They have no interest in the men who do not "lie". They want the bad boy , the troublemaker. Too freaking bad when it bites their ass.

Sorry but I have been the honest guy that always ends up the "friend" who the women come crying to when their latest asshole dumps them.


Hear, hear! My god, I know waaaaay too well how you feel. I have many friends that are girls, with asshole boyfriends, and they always come to me like I'm their shrink when they have problems. Not that I mind too much... I'm their friend, and I like being the word of wisdom in the midst of turmoil, but my fucking god... these bad boys and dickheads are balls deep in these women every night. I haven't gotten laid in 2 years, it ain't right!
Being nice gets one absolutely no attention. Being an asshole just gets everyone angry, unless you're dressed fashionably and have enough money and time to date. I'm not saying this applies to everyone, but I've tried and tried to be a good person, with a lot of success, and it seems to get me nowhere with women except friends. Friends are a great thing, but Sean needs sex. The only problem is that I can't be an asshole for a prolonged amount of time, so it never gets past square one.
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