Why are Conservatives so obsessed with race?

Good bye. You are just the kind of person I hate talking to. You don't try to understand you only twist words and make the other person look bad and you look so uber cool. Huge fail.

1) I never said any gay or lesbian tried to force anything on me. YOU SAID THAT!
2) My example, and it has happened to me many times, especially since moving to Tennessee, is people trying to force their religious beliefs, or attendance of their church on me.
3) YOU are being an argumentative ass and a troll trying to stir controversy where there is none.

Enjoy being an asshole because you are good at it and YOU FORCE IT IN ANYONE YOU DON'T LIKE HERE. I'm still not leaving but you are dead to me.
1. I was trying to understand what you meant, I used your words
2. You said you didn't like gay or lesbians who did that, which is why this was confusing
3. Sorry you can't explain yourself

I don't force anything on anyone. I make comments in a forum. I don't care if you leave or go.

Hope this helps 👍
 
1. I was trying to understand what you meant, I used your words
2. You said you didn't like gay or lesbians who did that, which is why this was confusing
3. Sorry you can't explain yourself

I don't force anything on anyone. I make comments in a forum. I don't care if you leave or go.

Hope this helps 👍
1) No you weren't. You purposely picked one group out of my list to try and maker me look like a homophobe. I listed multiples in that posting.
2) I said I don't like ANYONE trying to force their lifestyle on me. Live, be who ever you are, in your case an argumentative asshole, and that's it. I stated repeatedly I don't care how someone lives as long as they don't hurt anyone else. I never specifically mentioned any gay or lesbian doing that to me.
3) I explained myself clearly multiple times. If your brain was a parachute you would die if you jumped out of a plane because its never open.

You always try to force your opinion on anyone that doesn't agree with you. You try to play the superior and you fail because you can't ever debate seriously you nit pick and post bull shit that was never said. Then you play the innocent victim when someone calls you on it. Fuck off, don't read my stuff, don't respond to me.
 
1) No you weren't. You purposely picked one group out of my list to try and maker me look like a homophobe. I listed multiples in that posting.
2) I said I don't like ANYONE trying to force their lifestyle on me. Live, be who ever you are, in your case an argumentative asshole, and that's it. I stated repeatedly I don't care how someone lives as long as they don't hurt anyone else. I never specifically mentioned any gay or lesbian doing that to me.
3) I explained myself clearly multiple times. If your brain was a parachute you would die if you jumped out of a plane because its never open.

You always try to force your opinion on anyone that doesn't agree with you. You try to play the superior and you fail because you can't ever debate seriously you nit pick and post bull shit that was never said. Then you play the innocent victim when someone calls you on it. Fuck off, don't read my stuff, don't respond to me.
1. I wasn't trying to make you look like anything. That's why I specifically asked for clarification
2. So gays and lesbians don't force their lifestyle upon you. Thanks for the clarification.
3. I asked questions because you weren't being clear.

Yes, many people, including yourself, seem to have issues with me. I truly care 👍

And I'll read and respond to whatever the fuck I want.
 
1. I wasn't trying to make you look like anything. That's why I specifically asked for clarification
2. So gays and lesbians don't force their lifestyle upon you. Thanks for the clarification.
3. I asked questions because you weren't being clear.

Yes, many people, including yourself, seem to have issues with me. I truly care 👍

And I'll read and respond to whatever the fuck I want.
I know you will Cliff Claven, Know it all Mother Fuckers like you can't help yourself. You have to be right. You have to troll the internet because its all you have.
 
I know you will Cliff Claven, Know it all Mother Fuckers like you can't help yourself. You have to be right. You have to troll the internet because its all you have.
You should read your own posts sometime 👍
 
Do you support gay marriage? Your past posts would indicate that you lean a particular way that doesn’t. You seem to acknowledge the monetary potential for acceptance, not the best of reasons but ok. Many on your side don’t. For example, the Colorado wedding cake case and there’s a similar case before the Supreme Court right now. All those marginalized communities that you mentioned are simply sick and tired of individuals saying they don’t care but putting politicians in place who have or are currently attacking them. Can you understand the pushback to you as an individual trying to come across to them is compassionate?
 
Do you support gay marriage? Your past posts would indicate that you lean a particular way that doesn’t. You seem to acknowledge the monetary potential for acceptance, not the best of reasons but ok. Many on your side don’t. For example, the Colorado wedding cake case and there’s a similar case before the Supreme Court right now. All those marginalized communities that you mentioned are simply sick and tired of individuals saying they don’t care but putting politicians in place who have or are currently attacking them. Can you understand the pushback to you as an individual trying to come across to them is compassionate?
If this rambling diatribe is directed at me I never said I received pushback from anyone except religious fanatics.

Don't push your agenda on me because your comprehension skills are so pathetic.
 
If this rambling diatribe is directed at me I never said I received pushback from anyone except religious fanatics.

Don't push your agenda on me because your comprehension skills are so pathetic.
Yes, it’s directed at you. What’s my agenda? It’s a simple question. I’m playing the questioning skeptic here, OK? The thread has already called you out but I didn’t come at you with my knives out.
 
Yes, it’s directed at you. What’s my agenda? It’s a simple question. I’m playing the questioning skeptic here, OK? The thread has already called you out but I didn’t come at you with my knives out.
I have no anti-gay or lesbian bias. My sister is a lesbian, I have worked with many lesbians and gays. I never brought it up and neither did they. I just treat people with respect and courtesy. Their lifestyle doesn't affect me at all. I am ambivalent on gay marriage the same as heterosexuals' marriage. I think its a tired worn out institution. Allowing gays to marry causes me no problems at all.
 
All you had to do was say yes. Seriously, it was a yes or no question. You added a lot of excess baggage that raise red flags just to finally say yes at the end. I’ve no more questions for you. Gn.
 
All you had to do was say yes. Seriously, it was a yes or no question. You added a lot of excess baggage that raise red flags just to finally say yes at the end. I’ve no more questions for you. Gn.
You asked 2 questions. I answered them both.

Have a nice night.
 
You are correct, sir. I asked two questions, but I meant the second one as rhetorical. I had pretty much known the answer, and I should’ve indicated that to you.
 
It was a fatal move politically. She should have known better. You hammer your opponents to try to get their voters. You don't insult their voters with broad generalizations by calling them deplorable racists, then expect to gain their votes. That's not the way you win. That's the way you lose votes.
She wasn't trying to gain their votes. Regardless of how you feel about what she said, she was certainly smart enough to know the deplorables were never going to vote for her.
 
She wasn't trying to gain their votes. Regardless of how you feel about what she said, she was certainly smart enough to know the deplorables were never going to vote for her.
Obama won two terms. Where were all these "deporables" then?
 
Obama won two terms. Where were all these "deporables" then?
Recall that Obama was the candidate of hope and change. Also know that many who supported Obama did so because they heard and used the term ‘change’ as a ‘soft’ word meaning ‘revolution.’ Now reckon with Obama’s extension of Bush’ hated wars, plus the ‘pivot to China,’ etc.

The reality is, democrats can’t offer one, solitary, proletarian policy that matters to the 90% — the working class and the US’ ONLY wealth producers.

HRC’s controversial term, ‘deplorables’ is unhelpful. Marxists don’t deny that every community, however small, has a backward leaning social layer that is ever defined by social and political reaction. But we call it the lumpenproletariat. Why?

Marx saw this as a dangerous class as it lacks a sense of solidarity with the working class [proletariat], making it vulnerable to manipulation by the ruling class. Trump’s appeal does bear out Marx’ point, not that it helps democrats.

But the lumpenproletariat are not Trump’s only supporters. So once accounting for Obama’s ‘success,’ why is Trump more able to draw yesterday’s Obama backers than today’s democrats themselves?

Abandoning all class struggle commitment [not that there was ever much], democrats substitute instead a paltry plan to benefit a razor-thin layer of upper-middle class democrats — an Asian, a woman, a gay, etc. Then they pretend they’ve initiated a revolution in the history of ideas.

Donald Trump is the totally unworthy beneficiary of the democrat’s inability to offer even one, solitary proletarian policy that matters to the working class!

Despite adrina’s incessant singsong on apathy and the refusal to vote, democrats can blame no one but themselves!

Democrats can only ignore that what was truely at issue in Obama’s soft-revolution campaign was …

NOT — who will be President,
BUT — do we keep capitalism?

Obama won his elections, but those who hoped for ‘change’ as revolution saw their allegiance to nation squandered at last.

But that matters nothing.

Horror of Horrors, class consciousness rises globally. Strikes are back. Unions are desperate to isolate, defeat and end them. Apathy ends. Workers rise to their feet. Opposition to war is rising. Workers are organizing struggles on two fronts — one against the government and companies, one against unions that try to impose the government’s will. Workers formed the International Workers alliance of Rank-and-File committees to conduct struggles that unions refuse to lead. The ruling class sees it and is terrified. It moves to impose authoritarian forms of rule everywhere.

As democrats are able to offer naught but war and reaction masked as ‘progressive’ identity politics, ever more workers and youth will abandon electoral process in general and democrats in particular.

The choice for democrats is clear: they may surrender position and privilege, and back emerging proletarian leadership, or be forced to join Republicans. Socialists will bestride the democrat’s position until it, and the Party, enters full-scale collapse.
 
Obama won two terms. Where were all these "deporables" then?
Clinging to their guns and religion, I suppose. (Lest we forget, Obama made a comment that was similarly received to Clinton's "deplorables" comment.)

But that's beside the point. The point is, we're talking about people who think she shot Vince Foster, who sincerely believe she was trying to destroy America from within, and who didn't just oppose everything she stood for, but outright hated most of it. They were not going to vote for her no matter how polite she was. And she didn't need their votes. With 2012-level turnout, she would have won.
 
Clinging to their guns and religion, I suppose. (Lest we forget, Obama made a comment that was similarly received to Clinton's "deplorables" comment.)

But that's beside the point. The point is, we're talking about people who think she shot Vince Foster, who sincerely believe she was trying to destroy America from within, and who didn't just oppose everything she stood for, but outright hated most of it. They were not going to vote for her no matter how polite she was. And she didn't need their votes. With 2012-level turnout, she would have won.
If you're trying to convince me there was more hate thrown at Clinton than Obama (a Black man, with a Muslim name, post 9/11, with the same name as a Middle East dictator we went to war with) you're barking up the wrong tree. I was there. They called Obama everything but a child of God. The most vile, racist, lies, comments, and cartoons flooded the air waves and the internet. He wasn't even a U.S. citizen.

The reason Hillary lost is because she was a shit candidate with shit policies. End of story. Blaming her lost on a Vince Foster conspiracy theory is just as looney as blaming her for his death.
 
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