Whores: Exploitation?

[Recidiva]

A street hooker is a slave. No one in their right mind would voluntarily work as a street hooker unless forced by economic/physical circumstances.

An escort/call girl is a high paying, illegal profession. The main problem is the lack of choice of clients. The clients are screened to some extent, but the girl winds up working for a lot of real losers.

The chance of contracting an STD is almost certain for a street hooker and very high even for an escort/call girl.

No, they're seen as slaves. All slaves are "seen" as slaves. If you don't see them that way, if you don't treat them that way, they aren't.

 

[Pure]

hi angela,

interesting post. it's hard to tell if you're citing real concerns that could be met. it could be that these are 'reasons' which can always be multiplied, in order to reach the desired result. (like a wife who always has a headache, her period, her 'too stressed out', etc. excuse)

OTOH, in case you're half serious, i don't see your 'reasons' as much of a barrier:

AMy consulting rate is $1500 per day and my clients usually want me for 3 or 4 days at a time. For that, they get to have me tell them how to run their businesses.

Now to answer the question:

*If* I could somehow deal with the physical safety issues

P: That's pretty easy in this age of cell phones. Also either meet on neutral ground like a hotel, or better, your own ground (an apartment) with a bouncer or bodyguard on call.

A *and* the legal issues

P: Do it in Europe or Canada. Or bite the bullet: the law no more controls prostitutes or meaningfully penalizes the 'upper crust' than it does wealthy drug users or dealers. There are also a number of ways to ensure you're not dealing with an ordinary cop.

A *and* the STD issues

P:Condoms, my dear. A good pro is almost never subject to disease.

A and if I could somehow make sure that no one ever found out...

Well, first of all, the client and you have a common interest, to keep it secret. He or She is unlikely to rat you out, though the possbility of 'clues' has to be dealt with--e.g. your charges appearing on his Visa.

Else do it out of the country, assuming you're in the US.

AI would love to do it every once in a while. I would probably line up a date for the Friday of one of the weeks of my out-of-town consulting trips.

I would charge $8,000 to $10,000 per night.

P: I think the several thousand per night fee is not a deterrent to the wealthier clients. On your side, there are of course requirements of lots of class, brains, and attractiveness for that kind of money.
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I'm just proposing these points for thought and for the thread; I'm not trying to 'turn you out' or in a position to afford such elite pros, such 'belles de jour'

 

[Belegon]

I'd enter the profession...and be good at it. I have the same qualms about safety and controlling my own business that others have...

I admit I've put less thought into using someone else's services...

 

[Darkniciad]

the net and other technology has lots of possibilities for whoring, or--a better term--commercial sex.

a cam girl sounds like an updated and improved 'phone sex' (paid)partner.

because of that, your description might be a little misleading. i'd guess she doesn't get off. it's a job, and no man can ever tell.

for me that's a drawback, since i'd prefer an enthusiastic play partner who was NOT getting money and thus had no incentive to fake.

that said, as with a real life pro, some don't care if the woman merely pretends to get off, or doesn't even pretend. the cold commercial 'feel' can be eroticized.

You would be surprised, I should imagine. There are a fair number of girls who just get a kick out of doing it - and do get off when given proper stimulus from the other end of the line. Some of them get such a rush from it, that it takes little to nothing from the customer to heat them up and get them there. I'm in a position to hear the real story, because I'm not a paying customer. I'm just a goofball that hangs out in her room cracking jokes, tossing the losers out on their ears when they get out of hand.

There are far more "pros" working the cam, but you can spot them given enough exposure to the world. It's easy to fake in the show, but faking the aftermath in a room full of guys who aren't starting to doze off in contentment is a lot more difficult. I've spent a lot of time in my years covering for quivering models who messaged me something like:

"i dcant adtpye ttell rooom"

The girls who actually get into the shows consistantly make more money, have more repeat customers, and have higher free chat room counts. Guys can't tell, but they can appreciate a good performance, whether they know for sure or not, and there's no better performance than the real thing.

 

[McKenna]

I'd enter the profession...and be good at it. I have the same qualms about safety and controlling my own business that others have...

I admit I've put less thought into using someone else's services...

How much would you charge for, oh, say, a lifetime?

 

[McKenna]

To answer Joe's question: I can see myself as a "paid companion" or a courtesan or a geisha --in other words, someone who is valued not only for her sexual expertise, but her intelligence. In those scenarios, the sex is also more likely to be monogamous; I could handle that easier than I could handle multiple partners who are strangers to me.

 

[Guest]

For purposes of discussion, see http://www.jetsetblog.com/

A 6,000 pound a day international escort.

 

[NoJo]

For purposes of discussion, see http://www.jetsetblog.com/

A 6,000 pound a day international escort.

I read some of her blog. She sounds like a right prat

 

[impressive]

How much would you charge for, oh, say, a lifetime?

Timeshare, bay-bee.

 

[McKenna]

Timeshare, bay-bee.

Threesome, Sweetie.

 

[impressive]

Threesome, Sweetie.

 

[Roxanne Appleby]

What's with ? That's one heck of an offer, my good man!

And for you, young lady, given that you want a baby timeshare isn't really practical, alas, but until you score on that score . . .

 

[impressive]

What's with ? That's one heck of an offer, my good man!

And for you, young lady, given that you want a baby timeshare isn't really practical, alas, but until you score on that score . . .

I'm neither "young" nor a "lady" And, since I'll be workin' my own beat, I figure I'll only pay for the time I have available to share. Eh?

 

[Jenny_Jackson]

Oh, Hell yessssssssssssss... as long as the pay is extraordinary and the guys/gals are hot

 

[Guest]

Oh, Hell yessssssssssssss... as long as the pay is extraordinary and the guys/gals are hot

The pay might be good, but the guys/gals are,well, the kind that have to pay for it as opposed to getting it thrown at their feet at the local nightclub.

 

[Jenny_Jackson]

The pay might be good, but the guys/gals are,well, the kind that have to pay for it as opposed to getting it thrown at their feet at the local nightclub.

That's more true than you know in this city, T-E-B. Here there are 1.6 women for every man. The hookers don't do all that well with so many giving it away all over town.

 

[NoJo]

Here there are 1.6 women for every man.

Throw .6 of a woman this-away, please

 

[Guest]

That's more true than you know in this city, T-E-B. Here there are 1.6 women for every man. The hookers don't do all that well with so many giving it away all over town.

Not fair posting that without naming the city!

 

[SophiaY]

A friend of mine told me that on one of the virtual community sites (sort of like a Sims interactive real-time thing I guess -- I'm not familiar with them), "escorts" are particularly popular.
A way for some women (and men) to act out the whore fantasy?


Personally, If I were to daydream about that -- I would go with the belle epoque courtesan idea. Someone like Liane de Pougy

http://tallulahs.com/biog/depougy/pougy004.jpg

 

[ChilledVodkaIV]

true story

You know those houses they built just after the war? Prefabricated, lath and plaster things that they titivated up in the seventies and eighties by building brick walls round the outside. D'you remember?

I looked up from her sweat drenched scalp which had plastered her fringe to her eyebrows (sparse, light brown eyebrows) and noticed a deep indentation in the wall. Deep and cracked, spackled I liked to call the crazy pattern made there. I looked back down into her eyes noting that she was studying my studied expression.

I was wondering about the dent. I licked streaming droplets from her nose and cheeks as our bodies slid together, chest to breast, thigh to slick thigh, cock to puss.

Coctopus?

Her expression grew quizzical at the wide smile I offered "Wha-" I thrust deep. She groaned loud. I came.

Shortly afterwards, laid on bare floorboards, in enfolding arms, on soft plump breasts, in salt slick wetness she asked "What were you thinking about just then?"

"Just when?"

"Just before you came in me."

I was still a little more than apprehensive about 'chewing unwrapped toffees' (which is how she viewed sex using a condom - Like chewing a toffee with the wrapper still on)

"That hole in the wall." I said.

"Shiela, that's my friend that lives two doors up, the cheeky cow asked me to send you round to hers one night."

"Will you? Send me round?"

She laid in thought for a few seconds. "Yeah. Her husband left her last year. After 22 years without a 'kiss me arse nor bugger you'. She hasn't had any since then. So yeah. But you'd better still come round here on Wednesdays." she warned

"How could I not come in here?" I said as I slid three fingers into her.

"She prefers it bareback as well." she gasped still trying to maintain the conversation "All of 'em." she instructed. "Do it in and out." as she writhed.

I gained my knees and concentrated on the action.

"Deeper. Wiggle you fingers about. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh." she chanted in rhythm.

That's how it began. Sex for a growing circle of friends. What came next almost finished it there and then.

"So how did you get that hole in the wall?"

"Keith punched it."

"Keith?"

"My husband." she arched her back and looked upside down at the clock which said 5:30 am. "Oh shit. He finishes in half an hour. You'd best go."

 

[Belegon]

How much would you charge for, oh, say, a lifetime?

Timeshare, bay-bee.

Threesome, Sweetie.

*eep*

I am so there and would feel so guilty charging for MY dream come true...

 

[CharleyH]

This question has come up since a single friend of mine admitted to me that he's been reguralrly visting a local brothel.

Ladies: Would you whore yourself? If not, is it on moral or political grounds? Health and safety?

Men: Would you/ do you use them? If not, is it for financial, moral reasons?

I personally doubt anyone could pay me enough, although I seem to give up my pussy for lobster dinners - lol - so... LOL - take it as you will, and also if I want someone in my terms? Am I a whore?

However, I do know some "CALL GIRLS." Are they whores? Or business women?

I would think they are business women - the call girls, and the men, anon Johns? They are simply hard up losers who cant get laid in a bar.

I think that a how to pick up a chick without spending a dime, would be a good thread in the light of your thread, SJ.

 

[Antfarmer77]

My consulting rate is $1500 per day and my clients usually want me for 3 or 4 days at a time. For that, they get to have me tell them how to run their businesses.

Now to answer the question:

*If* I could somehow deal with the physical safety issues *and* the legal issues *and* the STD issues and if I could somehow make sure that no one ever found out... I would love to do it every once in a while. I would probably line up a date for the Friday of one of the weeks of my out-of-town consulting trips.

I would charge $8,000 to $10,000 per night.

$8k-$10k? Really? I only paid $13k for my first home

 

[CharleyH]

To answer Joe's question: I can see myself as a "paid companion" or a courtesan or a geisha --in other words, someone who is valued not only for her sexual expertise, but her intelligence. In those scenarios, the sex is also more likely to be monogamous; I could handle that easier than I could handle multiple partners who are strangers to me.

Indeed - what happened to the Geisha, anyhow? (I know, but repeat it )

 

[cherries_on_snow]

Was it second life? if so, then i confess I was a virtual escort there for a bit. It was fun and sometimes hot because I didn't have to see what my clients looked like irl. Also, I made a couple of real life friends that way that transcended the internet (face-to-face relationships). Also, a few times I made enough virtual money that I coulda cashed checks and had it be worthwhile. (In second life, you can transfer virtual money to USD with the pressing of a few buttons.) I didn't though. I spent the money in game because transferring that money would have crossed my line, somehow. Probably silly.

A friend of mine told me that on one of the virtual community sites (sort of like a Sims interactive real-time thing I guess -- I'm not familiar with them), "escorts" are particularly popular.
A way for some women (and men) to act out the whore fantasy?


Personally, If I were to daydream about that -- I would go with the belle epoque courtesan idea. Someone like Liane de Pougy

http://tallulahs.com/biog/depougy/pougy004.jpg