Who are the most influential people who never lived?

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NEW YORK (Reuters) - They influence everything from how we look and act to eat and speak and have even helped sway the course of history -- but they are not real.

And topping a list of "The 101 most influential people who never lived" in a book released Tuesday is the Marlboro Man -- a macho American cowboy who emerged in the 1950s and helped boost sales of Marlboro cigarettes.

"The figments of our imaginations, the creatures we push out of our minds into the real world are fully capable of pushing back with surprising consequences," Jeremy Salter, one of the U.S. book's three authors, told Reuters.

Coming in at number two on the list is Big Brother of George Orwell's 1984, followed by King Arthur, who the authors say embodies for many the ideal monarch, and Santa Claus comes in at number four.

"Santa Claus governs our entire economy for the last quarter of the year and without him businesses would go broke," said co-author Allan Lazar.

Barbie "the bodacious plastic babe who became a role model for millions of little girls, setting an impossible standard for beauty and style" makes the list at number 43.

But Rosie the Riveter, the buff, blue-collar factory worker who the authors say helped jump-start the women's liberation movement comes in at 28.

"The idea came to us that influential characters didn't have to exist, that fictional characters were just as important in our lives, even in maybe some cases more so than real people," Lazar said.

Even the Loch Ness Monster makes the list at number 56.

"As the most popular tourist attraction in Scotland, Nessie's influence on the cash flow of that country has been significant," wrote the authors of "The 101 most influential people who never lived."

At 101 was Paul Bunyan, a mythical lumberjack who the authors say was created by U.S. lumberjacks during the 1800s "to bring some good cheer, and esteem into their lives of drudgery."
 
Do movie characters count? Cos really, there are a TON of those who are influencial. Or book characters, or video game characters, etc.?
 
How about Uncle Tom? The title character in the book by H. B. Stowe was an icon of the abolitionist movement of the 19th Century. I realize he was patterned after a real person, but so was Santa Claus and probably Paul Bunyan, and others.
 
Here's a beginning of my list...

Homer's characters, Achilles, Hector, Odysseus etc.

Virgil's Pious Aeneas

The Bible: The Good Samaritan; The faithful servant (parable of the talents).

Scherehezade and Sinbad

Shakespeare: too many to list - my favourites Beatrice and Benedict

Cervantes' Don Quixote

John Bunyan's Pilgrim

Defoe's Robinson Crusoe

Swift's Gulliver

Voltaire's Candide

Jules Verne's Captain Nemo

Conan Doyle's Sherlock Holmes
 
Some would argue that God should top the list. But I'm guessing the author didn't want to touch that beehive with a ten mile pole.
 
E R Burroughs: Tarzan; Captain Zeb Carter and Dejah Thoris
Mark Twain: Tom Sawyer and Huckleberry Finn
Leslie Charteris: The Saint
Ian Fleming: James Bond
Agatha Christie: Hercule Poirot and Miss Marple
Dorothy L Sayers: Lord Peter Wimsey and Harriet Vane
John Buchan: Richard Hannay
Raphael Sabatini: The Sea Hawk
Russell Thorndyke: Doctor Syn
Sapper: Bulldog Drummond
Rudyard Kipling: Kim
 
Zeb_Carter said:
Hey, that's me and the wife! ;)

Of course it is.

Have you conquered the universe yet, or are you leaving it to President Bush to finish what you started?

Og
 
Continuing...

Dumas: The Three Musketeers
Orzcy: The Scarlet Pimpernel
Washington Irving: Rip Van Winkle
Perrault: Fairy Tale Characters
Brothers Grimm: ditto
Aesop: Fabled characters
C S Lewis: Aslan and Narnia characters; Ransome and Martian series characters
Arthur Ransome: Swallows and Amazons
A A Milne: Winnie the Pooh, Eeyore, Tigger, Kanga, Wol etc...
Dickens: Oliver Twist; Little Nell...
 
Empire builders

Mickey Mouse; Donald Duck
Charlie the tramp
Keystone Cops
(Perils of) Pauline

Ronald McDonald
Singers of 'It's the Real Thing'

Uncle Sam
John Bull
 
Popeye, Olive Oyl and Bluto
The RoadRunner
Tom and Jerry
Tintin
Wonderwoman
Spiderman
The Hulk
etc, etc
 
Liar said:
Some would argue that God should top the list. But I'm guessing the author didn't want to touch that beehive with a ten mile pole.

true.. there are other fictional characters on the list
 
I notice most of the names proposed are characters from books or movies. They are well know but have any of them really been influential? Did they ever influence legislation or become cited in some kind of mass movement? Achilles had a body part named after him and everybody knows what an "Achilles heel" is. I think Hitler referred to the German race as supermen but was that a reference to the man of steel?

I would add The Welfare Queen. She was a figment of the imagination of somebody, probably in the Reagan administration. She represented women who supposedly lived high on the hog from welfare payments. Queenie was often cited when Republicans eliminated many social services in the nineties.
 
The Hooker with a Heart of Gold

Frankenstein's monster

The LGM or BEM from outer space, especially as a witness to humanity

the Monster Under the Bed

the Evil Stepmother

Prince Charming
 
I still have to stick to my first nomination of Ronald Reagan.

To pay homage to the influence of fictional characters without acknowledging the influence of fictional representations of real people seems to pay an inaccurate picture of the role of media.

I might add Eva Peron, JFK, Nixon (in 1960), Madonna, and (increasingly) GWB.

All of them have been either masters or buffeted ciphers of the popular media. I understand the premise and thrust of the article, but I think it only shows one side of an important modern phenomenon.
 
Huckleman2000 said:
I still have to stick to my first nomination of Ronald Reagan.

To pay homage to the influence of fictional characters without acknowledging the influence of fictional representations of real people seems to pay an inaccurate picture of the role of media.

I might add Eva Peron, JFK, Nixon (in 1960), Madonna, and (increasingly) GWB.

All of them have been either masters or buffeted ciphers of the popular media. I understand the premise and thrust of the article, but I think it only shows one side of an important modern phenomenon.
I'm not convinced it is all that modern.
 
SweetPrettyAss said:
I notice most of the names proposed are characters from books or movies. They are well know but have any of them really been influential? Did they ever influence legislation or become cited in some kind of mass movement?

Very good point! The most influential character of all time has to be Spock, of the original Star Trek TV series. I was working as a computer programmer when I discovered the Spock character. One day I faced what was considered to be an unsolvable programming problem. It suddenly occurred to me to simply ask, "What would Spock do?" I figured out what Spock would do. I did that. It worked [of course!] I had solved the problem. The original solution led to more solutions and I became a very highly regarded programmer in the defense/space industries. One I mastered the Vulcan mind meld technique, I became unbeatable. I owe it all to Spock.
 
cantdog said:
I'm not convinced it is all that modern.

I understand your reticence.

I would reply that an essential element in the characters cited is a popular media image across national and empire borders, at least. At a minimum, popular image across a large national or imperial stage.

That sort of influence of created mass image, I think, is a uniquely modern phenomenon. Certainly, the rapid impact of a manufactured image seems to rely on a mass-media infrastructure.

N'est pas?
 
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