Where is Siren????

[Guest]

Ageed!

This stuff about her being completely rational and right as rain is total hogwash!

I see you got the "shit" joke then?

 

[Lancecastor]

I see you got the "shit" joke then?

You made a funny?

 

[tulip2lipservice]

Lance if you are going to quote me

I think Siren's posts (if they still existed) would speak for themselves...perhaps you weren't here when she had her months of threatening to sue just about everyone here before finally flipping out completely over Indigo Rose's gag.

Her husband wound up posting on her behalf, she had all her posts erased and hasn't been seen since.

I think that all speaks for itself...as have your dozens of drop-dead drunk threads over the past several months... your big CAPS LOCK freak out over Hanns... and the ease with which Ishmael co-opted you into your current state of Conspiracy Paranoia that now has you tailing people around the board to question their motivations like Inspector Crackpipe.

So, to sum up, I've merely pointed to the well known and repeated patterns exhibited by Siren....and you.

Truth is indeed stranger than fiction...I could never make up a better cast of freaks that you and your lot!

Ha!

Lance

do not take what I say out of content sweetie. For you know I said you were the only one painting that picture. Nice try to twist the words about.

Ok Lance bring up all of the posts that I posted drunk. hmmm let me think perhaps three times in the two years I posted here. Nice try sweetie.

What is the matter I am writting on the boards like I always have been. I can't help it that you give me much amusement with the holes in your theories and such. I figured I'll just point them out to you so you can see your inconsistancies.

Peace,
Tulip

 

[Guest]

You made a funny?

more of a reference, actually.

 

[Lancecastor]

more of a reference, actually.

You mean the Mr. Hanky reference you made way back?

Sewer=Sue-er?

Siren the suing Litster is in the sewer?



Lance

 

[Cheyenne]

Re: Re: Re: Only pointing out the facts here...

Well then we're all in agreement; you simply didn't like my use of "put his foot down".

If I'd said "expressing his concern" that would have been easier for you to swallow Chey?

Semantics can be a needless barrier to reaching common ground.

As for mirrors, I've noted your recent posts wherein you bristle at the idea of any man telling you what to do....perhaps that's what tweaked your bile duct in response to my semantic choices concerning Wolf's reactions and Siren's immediate disappearance thereafter.

At any rate, I hope you can relax now and enjoy your evening.



Lance

Thanks, I did have a wonderful evening with family.

There is a huge difference between your posts on the first page of this thread and your progressive watering down to where you say you were just giving opinions and don't need any facts to back them up. The posts you continue to claim were made by Wolfy simply do not exist. That is what I object to. Not semantics, but the difference between truth and fiction. You come down hard on the fiction side, consistently.

 

[Lancecastor]

Re: Lance if you are going to quote me

I am writting on the boards like I always have been.

Granted, you've been here longer than me, so I accept that you've always been this fucked up.

Sorry for the inaccuracy.

Lance

 

[Cheyenne]

Re: Re: Re: Only pointing out the facts here...

Actually, wolfy is known for posting in a gentle tone. For him to post that he felt her loyalty was missplaced and that he is unhappy makes me wonder what was said between the two of them.

Also...who ever said that Lance is married?? I don't remember reading that anywhere.

You make valid points at times, Chey...just don't post things that cannot be backed up.

What did I post that can't be backed up exactly? That's my whole point- that Lance posts many things that he can't back up. When called on it, he changes his story. Consistently.

I have no idea if Lance is married or not. I gave my OPINION as to MAYBE what I thought could be his problem, isn't that what Lance did in this thread? I said "How Lance ever got to 'Wolfy put his foot down' as the reason Siren isn't here I'll never understand. Maybe Lance's wife does that to him so he just projected his own home life to Siren?"

Gee, you didn't mistake that for fact just because I said it, did you? Didn't you see the "maybe" in that sentence? Hmmm?

 

[Cheyenne]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Only pointing out the facts here...

In the end, all that is said here becomes a matter or interpretation and perception.

Again, I regret touching a nerve with Chey and upsetting her around the prospect of a man "telling" his woman what to do, but I think that's exactly what happened at Casa del Wolfy.

See, and here I think that it is you who has a nerve touched everytime you run into a woman at Lit who won't bend over for you. I think you have a wife at Casa del Lanciepants that really wears the pants in your family and that's exactly what happened to cause you to have the attitudes you have towards women.

 

[Lancecastor]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Only pointing out the facts here...

Thanks, I did have a wonderful evening with family.

Good to hear; nice to see you posting cogently again.

The facts would of course be easier to ascertain if Siren hadn't erased all her posts.

So we are left with her husband's PR Release... and our memories.

Apparently, we differ on the readings of her bones.

There are no other hard facts to measure by.

My opinion remains unchanged despite your dogged efforts to make lead out of gold....Siren was practically drooling when she babbled out of here.... her babbling had been increasing for months.

I hope she's fine now as I'm sure you do.

Lance

 

[Lancecastor]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Only pointing out the facts here...

See, and here I think that it is you who has a nerve touched everytime you run into a woman at Lit who won't bend over for you.

Well, you're close....the idea is that you're supposed to bend over to touch my nerve.

 

[tulip2lipservice]

Re: Re: Lance if you are going to quote me

Granted, you've been here longer than me, so I accept that you've always been this fucked up.

Sorry for the inaccuracy.

Lance

Wow what a come back sweetie. I did not know you had it in you. I have noticed when you are up against the wall you try to degrade or disprove creditability. Another one of your patterns.

Peace,
Tulip
*Ok I think I am almost done playing for the night. I am sure when Siren is finished with whatever is occupying her time with she will be back. So stop trying to make it that she was chased away. She has alway taken breaks and come back. So have I for that matter. Perhaps you should try.

 

[Ishmael]

I see you got the "shit" joke then?

Nah, right over his head storm.

Are you sure you wouldn't rather be treating those that are actually seeking help?

Ishmael

 

[Lancecastor]

Re: Re: Re: Lance if you are going to quote me

So stop trying to make it that she was chased away.

I don't recall anyone saying she was chased away.

I think she wigged out and left on her own; her over-reaction to IR's gag was simply the trigger.

Lance

 

[Ishmael]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Lance if you are going to quote me

I don't recall anyone saying she was chased away.

I think she wigged out and left on her own; her over-reaction to IR's gag was simply the trigger.

Lance

Quote before edit

Ishmael

 

[tulip2lipservice]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Lance if you are going to quote me

I don't recall anyone saying she was chased away.

I think she wigged out and left on her own; her over-reaction to IR's gag was simply the trigger.

Lance

And if I recalled you attempted to stir up that skit. Now I see you are standing by your interpretation that would only suit whatever you are aiming for. Perhaps a chance to say see I can control something in my life.

I doubt that Siren wigged but if she did get upset about her computer I can't say I do not blame her. I am sure it was a momentary pissed off mood like any one of us would get if a person knowingly sent us to a site that would create damage. In my opinion since you are entitled to yours is that Siren like she has done in the past is busy in her life. She will be back when things are less hectic in her life. Hmmm did you ever think that she was overwhelmed with the holidays and what not? If I recalled you took two days off like Hans did during that time.

Peace,
Tulip

 

[lavender]

Lance,

Your actions on this board to various women are blatant harassment. Wolfie didn't put his foot down, Siren got sick of people like you and stepped away.

I doubt she will be back this time. I think she finally realized - on her own terms - that she shouldn't let this place get to her so much. She cared about this site. She cared about the people here. She met her husband on this site. She has made many dear friends at this place. She has defended people and she has held out a helping hand.

I don't know anyone on this website who has held out their hand or provided a listening ear or a shoulder to cry on more than Siren. She gave to this community and in return she was faced with people's malicious placement of links to siglines that caused temporary damage to her computer. She gave to the people of this community and yet had to face your harassment in return. She spent almost 3 years on this site - talking to people.

I can't even count on all of my fingers and my toes all the time Siren helped people. It is ashame that she erased all of her posts Lance. But, it's not ashame because of the fact that you could dig up dirt on her, it's ashame because I can't scroll back and show to you all the times Siren has helped someone. She provided a trustworthy shoulder for women who were victim of domestic violence, victim of rape, victim of harassment, and victims of other forms of abuse. She extended a hand to young women who had terrible home situations - providing them with information about leaving that situation. She provided a listening ear to young women who were questioning educational and career decisions. She was always there when someone posted heartache. I wish I could go back and read her posts and bump up all the threads where she first responded to someone in crisis. I think Siren's most frequent post was "You have a PM." The minute someone had something go wrong - Siren was there.

Siren was a loyal friend. Siren was loyal to this community. Siren was a spitfire. She got mad on numerous occasions. She was principled and stood up for what she believed in. But, Siren had the biggest heart of anyone at this place. We all have flaws, and Siren will admit she has hers. She has a temper. Hell, we all have our trigger points. But, she has a heart of gold and the patience (at times) of a saint.

You know little about her long term Lance. So before you go spouting off your bullshit about her from your limited "perception" of her - why don't you get the full picture.

You read the first chapter Lance, and you think you know the whole book. That's incredibly presumptuous and amazingly arrogant of you. I shouldn't be shocked.

 

[Ishmael]

Lance,

Your actions on this board to various women are blatant harassment. Wolfie didn't put his foot down, Siren got sick of people like you and stepped away.

I doubt she will be back this time. I think she finally realized - on her own terms - that she shouldn't let this place get to her so much. She cared about this site. She cared about the people here. She met her husband on this site. She has made many dear friends at this place. She has defended people and she has held out a helping hand.

I don't know anyone on this website who has held out their hand or provided a listening ear or a shoulder to cry on more than Siren. She gave to this community and in return she was faced with people's malicious placement of links to siglines that caused temporary damage to her computer. She gave to the people of this community and yet had to face your harassment in return. She spent almost 3 years on this site - talking to people.

I can't even count on all of my fingers and my toes all the time Siren helped people. It is ashame that she erased all of her posts Lance. But, it's not ashame because of the fact that you could dig up dirt on her, it's ashame because I can't scroll back and show to you all the times Siren has helped someone. She provided a trustworthy shoulder for women who were victim of domestic violence, victim of rape, victim of harassment, and victims of other forms of abuse. She extended a hand to young women who had terrible home situations - providing them with information about leaving that situation. She provided a listening ear to young women who were questioning educational and career decisions. She was always there when someone posted heartache. I wish I could go back and read her posts and bump up all the threads where she first responded to someone in crisis. I think Siren's most frequent post was "You have a PM." The minute someone had something go wrong - Siren was there.

Siren was a loyal friend. Siren was loyal to this community. Siren was a spitfire. She got mad on numerous occasions. She was principled and stood up for what she believed in. But, Siren had the biggest heart of anyone at this place. We all have flaws, and Siren will admit she has hers. She has a temper. Hell, we all have our trigger points. But, she has a heart of gold and the patience (at times) of a saint.

You know little about her long term Lance. So before you go spouting off your bullshit about her from your limited "perception" of her - why don't you get the full picture.

You read the first chapter Lance, and you think you know the whole book. That's incredibly presumptuous and amazingly arrogant of you. I shouldn't be shocked.

But those are precisely the women that Lance and Hanns pick on. Hmmmmmmmmmmm.

Ishmael

 

[SINthysist]

Siren was an idiot and proved that to me with the slander schtick. You wanna talk about mean, judgemental, lavender-like, and that's the Harpy in a nutshell...

GOOD RIDDANCE!

Just like that other idiot lawyer FlamingoBlue.

 

[lavender]

If people were solely judged by their supporters, Lance would have so many negative points it would actually make me pity the man.

Hanns, AJ/Markov/Sin, *bratcat*/Cath/Mia/Dangergirl, and Indigo Rose, just to name a few.

 

[SINthysist]

I don't support "SpearChucker," I ignore him completely.

He does seem to be good at getting the hens to cackle, though.

 

[estevie]

I miss Siren too.

 

[Guest]

Nah, right over his head storm.

Are you sure you wouldn't rather be treating those that are actually seeking help?

Ishmael

Creative interpretation, and yes I would. I hate the Axis II personality disorder bullshit.

 

[Lancecastor]

Lance,

I doubt she will be back this time.

I can't even count on all of my fingers and my toes all the time Siren helped people.

She got mad on numerous occasions. She has a temper.

Lavender;

Thank you for supporting my thoughts on Siren.

I too doubt she will be back this time.

In 17,000 posts or whatever I also believe she thought she was helping people with her War & Peace sized diatribes on 20 or so occasions. You do have all your fingers & toes, right?

Yes, she did get mad on numerous occasions and had a wicked temper.

But as I said, I got to know something of her more rational, human side off the board and rather liked her when she wasn't threatening to sue people.

I hope she is well and happy.

Frankly, I don't understand what all the fuss is about in my saying any of that....it's hardly inflammatory.

But that's your problem....perhaps some of you have a touch of Sirenitus.

Lance

 

[Lancecastor]

I hate the Axis II personality disorder bullshit.

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Lance
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