When will we know the result?

oggbashan

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Certainly not Wednesday.

Friday? Wednesday, November 11th?

Trump will never concede so possibly Jan 1st 2021 or even later as lawyers argue?

What's your estimate?
 
If trump is run out on a rail on Jan. 20th I will ask for nothing else.
 
I think it depends on the vote totals.

If it's a rout, like the data is suggesting it is going to be, then Biden won't have much choice but to concede quickly.

If it's close in battleground states, then the recounts and legal battles will go on until the SCOTUS decides to tell everyone to sit down and shut up sometime in early December. Then the Electoral College debacle will ensue.
 
We will know the answer to this question tonight. May sanity return.
 
i predict the myth of trump's "silent majority" will be fully exposed at some point within the next five days. but probably before 2AM PST. :)
 
We will know the answer to this question tonight. May sanity return.

Let’s hope so. My guess is that we will know early morning tomorrow, but there will be some bullshit legal maneuvers for a week or two, and some protests (and counter protests). Both sides are likely to be angry about certain elements of the election process, but I doubt we will see another 2000 fiasco. I sure hope not anyway, this election really needs to be decided on actual vote counts and not some court decisions.
 
If there were reasonable voting laws everyone would know tonight.

But the Socialist movement cheats to gain power any place they can so who knows how long it will take to sort it out.
 
But the Socialist movement cheats to gain power any place they can so who knows how long it will take to sort it out.

You could call the trump administration a lot of things, but socialist wouldn’t be one of them. It’s been trump loonies who have been attacking the simple act of voting from every angle they can think of to improve their sagging odds. It’s beyond pathetic
 
The final, official results won't start to come into view until sometime next week due to the states where all or almost all of the voting is done by mail. Those results tend to trickle in. Fortunately, we have a decent idea of who is going to win the mail-only states.

But we could know for all intents and purposes by late this evening. Florida is a state that counts the vote as it comes in (early in-person voters and mail voters) and releases the numbers in bulk after the polls close. Unless it's extremely close, we will know a winner tonight; and if it's Biden, that comes close to wrapping it up. In addition to Florida, if Biden also wins just one from among North Carolina, Ohio, and Georgia, that ought to cinch it.
 
I believe we will know late tonight. My guess is that one or more of the key states will go to Biden, (NC, AZ, OH - not GA or FL) and so while there will be counting for a few days, the results will not be in question. FL counts fast so it if goes to Biden, is it all over.

Tricky Trump has already said he is sending the lawyers in to protest the election as soon as the polls close and has been planning to do so for a month or more. So there will be a lot of noise and hurt Trumpy feelings, and Trumptard's threats of violence but the results will be known.
 
Certainly not Wednesday.

Friday? Wednesday, November 11th?

Trump will never concede so possibly Jan 1st 2021 or even later as lawyers argue?

What's your estimate?

The Electoral College votes on 14 December 2020. That's when we'll know for sure.

(It's been a little hard, surprisingly so considering this kicked in in the 2016 elections, for folks to realize the election isn't decided on the basis of popular vote but on a skewed, lower-population-state favored, vote-by-state system.)
 
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It’s Schrödinger’s democracy. We won’t know if it’s alive or dead until we open the boxes.
 
I believe we will know late tonight. My guess is that one or more of the key states will go to Biden, (NC, AZ, OH - not GA or FL) and so while there will be counting for a few days, the results will not be in question. FL counts fast so it if goes to Biden, is it all over.

Tricky Trump has already said he is sending the lawyers in to protest the election as soon as the polls close and has been planning to do so for a month or more. So there will be a lot of noise and hurt Trumpy feelings, and Trumptard's threats of violence but the results will be known.


Trump's demeanor today doesn't seem very defiant (though he has to be pretty tired — he was rallying past midnight last night and he had 5 events in all), and the behavior of his supporters the last few days strikes me more as a temper tantrum than an expression of dominance.

Reminds me of when Jimmy Carter flew home to vote on the morning of the 1980 election. The public polls were still fairly close, but his campaign pollster had told him on the plane that it was over and it was going to be bad. He struggled to keep it together emotionally when giving his statement to reporters. Trump is not coming across to me like someone who is going to be in the mood to fight if it's clearly going badly.

But we still have to wait for the results. The Trump people saw the same exit polls as everyone else in 2016 and assumed they were going to lose.
 
Trump's demeanor today doesn't seem very defiant (though he has to be pretty tired — he was rallying past midnight last night and he had 5 events in all), and the behavior of his supporters the last few days strikes me more as a temper tantrum than an expression of dominance.

Reminds me of when Jimmy Carter flew home to vote on the morning of the 1980 election. The public polls were still fairly close, but his campaign pollster had told him on the plane that it was over and it was going to be bad. He struggled to keep it together emotionally when giving his statement to reporters. Trump is not coming across to me like someone who is going to be in the mood to fight if it's clearly going badly.

But we still have to wait for the results. The Trump people saw the same exit polls as everyone else in 2016 and assumed they were going to lose.

Did you see Trump's demeanor when he WON the election in 2016???

He practically had to be pushed out on stage to accept the victory. He looked like a dead man walking.

It was reported that Melania broke down in despair.

Trump never believed he would win, and his people and the polls kept telling him not to worry because he was going to lose, and then he could get on with marketing his own misinformation network.

Oops.

It may be dawning on Trump that Mitch and the right wing mob used him to get their tax cuts for the rich, and their court appointments, and now they're going to throw him to the wolves and hope that everyone forgets about the crimes against democracy that they committed.

SAD!!!
 
I’m going to say by Thursday. Too many swing states don’t count mail in ballots until today like WI, MI and PA, and some areas will not start on them until tomorrow. While the machines can count ballots rather quickly, people still need to check that everything was filled out properly. They need to check the signatures and check those that need a notary or witness.
 
I feel we will know tonight.

One thing I like about Biden, the man may not have all the answers, but he knows that he is human. He will listen to his advisors without incurring their wrath. We need him now.

It would be wonderful if Georgia and Texas go blue!
 
Trump's demeanor today doesn't seem very defiant (though he has to be pretty tired — he was rallying past midnight last night and he had 5 events in all), and the behavior of his supporters the last few days strikes me more as a temper tantrum than an expression of dominance.

Reminds me of when Jimmy Carter flew home to vote on the morning of the 1980 election. The public polls were still fairly close, but his campaign pollster had told him on the plane that it was over and it was going to be bad. He struggled to keep it together emotionally when giving his statement to reporters. Trump is not coming across to me like someone who is going to be in the mood to fight if it's clearly going badly.

But we still have to wait for the results. The Trump people saw the same exit polls as everyone else in 2016 and assumed they were going to lose.

I am being a little wishful, I admit.

My recollection is we knew Hillary lost around 11:30 PM Eastern, or it looked that way, and everyone just held out hope and she didn't concede until the next day. This time it looks like PA would have to be in play to really drag out the count, and according to what I have been able to gather GA, FL, OH, AZ and NC all have to go Red for PA to be in play.

I believe AZ and NC go Blue - so we'll know late tonight when AZ comes in if NC doesn't go Blue earlier.

My $0.02 as an armchair pundit. :D
 
I feel we will know tonight.

One thing I like about Biden, the man may not have all the answers, but he knows that he is human. He will listen to his advisors without incurring their wrath. We need him now.

It would be wonderful if Georgia and Texas go blue!

I agree with Bidens reliance on experts.

His deferring to the experts will be doubly important when it comes time for the Covid vaccine to be distributed.

Right now people aren't willing to trust the doctors thanks to Trump lying about the the pandemic and treatments.

If Biden gives total authority to someone like Fauci for green lighting when the vaccine is ready I think a lot more people will have confidence in its safety and effectiveness.

The importance of a Biden win is so critically important right now.
 
One swing state (PA) has given itself until Friday to finish counting, so that will hang out there.

However, I think we'll know by tomorrow morning which way it's going to fall (even later tonight if anyone is planning on staying up.) With the exception of Arizona, all the swing states are in the eastern or central time zone and the counts will start pouring in.

I'd be surprised if we see a concession speech from either party until tomorrow - and I am sure neither party intends on throwing in the towel tonight.

(Remember, despite the back and forth through previous elections aftermath the actual results have never changed. At that point, it's all math and the looming safe harbor day, when all states must have their electors identified and reported.)
 
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