When the winter winds run cold, electric vehicles run less

[TalkRadio1]

Among growing pains with electric vehicle technology, extreme weather is the worst environmental offender. It can produce a significant drop in driving range, which increases the cost to operate the vehicle.

After years of being praised as the answer to the quest for green and clean mobility, the reality is that the performance of battery-powered vehicles is inferior to regular cars. EVs have a litany of problems ranging from too few charging facilities to issues surrounding the cost, crash rating, and performance of the vehicles that may take years to resolve. It is a stark reminder that widespread acceptance of a transformative technology like the EV can take decades, or possibly never happen, in a society that’s happy with the gasoline car.

Recent studies showed that as freezing temperatures plagued most of the United States, EV owners typically experienced a decrease in driving range, and that loss got worse when the heat in the vehicle was cranked up. The average driving range decreased by 41 percent when the mercury fell to 20 degrees and the vehicle’s HVAC system was on. The problem is that, unlike a conventional vehicle with an internal combustion engine that can warm the vehicle with waste heat, EVs have to tap into their batteries to power the HVAC system.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/when-the-winter-winds-run-cold-electric-vehicles-run-less

 

[thør]

Shrugs

I couldn't go to the cabin and back with one of these in winter.

 

[someoneyouknow]

Who could have possibly guessed batteries don't work well in cold temperatures. It's as if science doesn't exist.

 

[RoryN]

No belts

No starters

No alternators

No power steering pumps

Simple transmissions that fail far less

Oil changes only every 10K

Car brakes itself to recharge, decreasing wear on brake pads & rotors

Computers keep car from being driven "hard" = saves engine wear

(Psst: people don't drive them for the environemt - they own them because they don't have to spend $$ on all the shit listed above + they're more dependable transportation. And that's just for hybrids. Full EVs have other advantages.)

You can enjoy the above advantages in a used Prius for $7K. But, y'know, keep bitching about "energy-efficient cars" while you're waiting for a tow and paying out the nose.

 

[Ann_Tagonist]

Ed Begley Jr. as a lad.

 

[TalkRadio1]

No belts

No starters

No alternators

No power steering pumps

Simple transmissions that fail far less

Oil changes only every 10K

Car brakes itself to recharge, decreasing wear on brake pads & rotors

Computers keep car from being driven "hard" = saves engine wear

(Psst: people don't drive them for the environemt - they own them because they don't have to spend $$ on all the shit listed above + they're more dependable transportation. And that's just for hybrids. Full EVs have other advantages.)

You can enjoy the above advantages in a used Prius for $7K. But, y'know, keep bitching about "energy-efficient cars" while you're waiting for a tow and paying out the nose.

You lose again, Babe.

For your reading pleasure...

Toyota recalls 2.4 million Prius hybrids that could stall while driving
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2018/10/05/toyota-prius-recall/1532120002/

Toyota recalls a million Prius vehicles citing a fire risk
https://www.theverge.com/2018/9/6/17827972/toyota-prius-recall-million-fire-risk

 

[FL30]

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/when-the-winter-winds-run-cold-electric-vehicles-run-less

that's just in the winter when it's really cold, the rest of the time they are a lot better.

 

[Ann_Tagonist]

that's just in the winter when it's really cold, the rest of the time they are a lot better.

What model do you drive?

 

[phrodeau]

You lose again, Babe.

For your reading pleasure...

Toyota recalls 2.4 million Prius hybrids that could stall while driving
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2018/10/05/toyota-prius-recall/1532120002/

Toyota recalls a million Prius vehicles citing a fire risk
https://www.theverge.com/2018/9/6/17827972/toyota-prius-recall-million-fire-risk

You actually think you have a point here?

https://www.investopedia.com/news/most-and-least-recalled-cars/

The most-recalled vehicles from 2013 to 2017 tend to have lower reliability ratings, although this is not necessarily the case. The study found that the vehicle most often recalled during the period in question was the Mercedes-Benz C-Class. This was followed by the GMC Sierra, the BMW 3/4 Series, the Dodge Durango and the Nissan Pathfinder. Other vehicles rounding out the top 10 most-recalled cars were the Ram Pickup, the Toyota 4Runner, the Dodge Charger, the Chrysler 300 and the Chevrolet Tahoe.

 

[RoryN]

You actually think you have a point here?

https://www.investopedia.com/news/most-and-least-recalled-cars/

*chuckle*