When the sub gets lippy

[Bette_coquette]

He's been in a foul mood this evening and tonight he got lippy and even critical of me. I didn't argue and gave up defending after 20 seconds, instead putting him on his hands and knees at the foot of my bed for half an hour. He is now washing my lingerie, a regular chore of his. I don't know what to do with him when he gets like this.

Ideas? I'm tempted to make him sleep on the floor, but it'll get much too cold in the house for that.

 

[YourCaptor]

He's been in a foul mood this evening and tonight he got lippy and even critical of me. I didn't argue and gave up defending after 20 seconds, instead putting him on his hands and knees at the foot of my bed for half an hour. He is now washing my lingerie, a regular chore of his. I don't know what to do with him when he gets like this.

Ideas? I'm tempted to make him sleep on the floor, but it'll get much too cold in the house for that.

This is when a swinging cod comes in handy.

 

[OzoneRed]

Wash his mouth out with soap!

 

[BiBunny]

Ask what's going on with him?

 

[00Syd]

Along the lines of what Bunny said:

Ask him what's wrong and then talk about it. Like adults.

 

[Lizzie_Borden]

Yuh.

A walloping does not communication make.

(And I learned that the hard way)

 

[chy_girl]

Ask what's going on with him?

^That. Just don't be surprised if he doesn't have a nice, neat explanation ready for you as soon as you ask. It may be something that he's still trying to suss out in his head as well.

 

[Bette_coquette]

Thank you. I'll do that tonight.

I'm making some career moves along with applying for a position he covets. I'm wondering if this is somehow making him envious and being lippy is his way of expressing that.

Once he came back from his lingerie chores he was very contrite and attentive. I still need to talk to him, though. Communication is so important in any relationship.

 

[BiaTcHiNFiRe]

Ask what's going on with him?

Agreed.

Nobody gets like this without a reason!

 

[BiaTcHiNFiRe]

He's been in a foul mood this evening and tonight he got lippy and even critical of me. I didn't argue and gave up defending after 20 seconds, instead putting him on his hands and knees at the foot of my bed for half an hour. He is now washing my lingerie, a regular chore of his. I don't know what to do with him when he gets like this.

Ideas? I'm tempted to make him sleep on the floor, but it'll get much too cold in the house for that.

As a punishment you mean??
This made me laugh because I would LOVE this so very much!

Who cares about the cold! *giggles*

 

[Que]

I'm making some career moves along with applying for a position he covets. I'm wondering if this is somehow making him envious and being lippy is his way of expressing that.

I bet money on it. Male is male, even subbies, even CD's...

somewhere deep down there is encoded dna or societal imprinting (you pick, ~shrug~) that a man's self worth is directly tied to what it is he does for a living.

 

[00Syd]

I bet money on it. Male is male, even subbies, even CD's...

somewhere deep down there is encoded dna or societal imprinting (you pick, ~shrug~) that a man's self worth is directly tied to what it is he does for a living.

Hoo boy.

And let the games begin!

 

[Stella_Omega]

Hoo boy.

And let the games begin!

I wouldn't argue with that, although of course I choose "societal imprinting". The proof is, it's imprinted on women as well.

My anthropologist friend calls it "Affect Hunger."

 

[midwestyankee]

I wouldn't argue with that, although of course I choose "societal imprinting". The proof is, it's imprinted on women as well.

My anthropologist friend calls it "Affect Hunger."

Absolutely. The drive for dignity (which we all define for ourselves, with some help from our family and the greater society) is intense and deep. If you've ever wondered why people who are poor choose to get satellite tv dishes or a really good coat: this is one reason why.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Absolutely. The drive for dignity (which we all define for ourselves, with some help from our family and the greater society) is intense and deep. If you've ever wondered why people who are poor choose to get satellite tv dishes or a really good coat: this is one reason why.

Yep. We mock people who "keep up with the Joneses" but there are very strong innate reasons for it.

 

[midwestyankee]

Yep. We mock people who "keep up with the Joneses" but there are very strong innate reasons for it.

Fortunately I live in a neighborhood where the only Jones hates mowing his lawn almost as much as I do.

 

[lovebound]

Fortunately I live in a neighborhood where the only Jones hates mowing his lawn almost as much as I do.

I always thought keeping up with the Joneses was more about survival than anything else. Predators pick the disadvantaged

 

[midwestyankee]

I always thought keeping up with the Joneses was more about survival than anything else. Predators pick the disadvantaged

Good point. I probably do get a few more bugs in my lawn than some of the others in my area.

 

[Stella_Omega]

I always thought keeping up with the Joneses was more about survival than anything else. Predators pick the disadvantaged

Ah yeah... "the selfish gene" and all that.

There are a few points of interest in evo-bio but don't take it as gospel. There is no "gospel" in science-- there are theories.

 

[Keroin]

Sorry, can't help it but...

Every time I read this thread title I think, "When the sub gets lippy, the fly goes zippy."


'Zippy' could be up or down, depending on the moment.

 

[lovebound]

Sorry, can't help it but...

Every time I read this thread title I think, "When the sub gets lippy, the fly goes zippy."


'Zippy' could be up or down, depending on the moment.

The best mottos are ambiguous!

 

[catalina_francisco]

Maybe the fact you have to jump on the computer and aska bunch of strangers for ideas on what you as the PYL could do, is a big part of what is going on for your pyl. Can't imagine a bigger turn off for me than to be under the command of someone who had to get their ideas from people they not only didn;t know, but who didn;t know them, not to mention it just doesn't remain very fluid and memorable when the PYL has to turn to the computer for help...sort of isn't worth it by the time they get it, think about which bit to follow, then turn away from the screen to return to their relationship and role and act on whatever sounds cool to them. Maybe it is more about the PYL attention seeking which for me is also a big turn off, and doesn't speak dominant to me nor encourage submission. Just my 2 cents worth.

Catalina

 

[lovebound]

or for that matter "the fly" might be a good name for your riding crop.

That is my most favored interpretation.

 

[Stella_Omega]

<snip>. Just my 2 cents worth.

Catalina

I've quite enjoyed Bette Coquette's posts and queries here. And I was just thinking that it's been a while since she posted.

Your 2 cents aren't worth two cents-- to me, at least.

 

[Bette_coquette]

I haven't posted here in quite some time because my relationship with my sub has been growing. However, last night when he suddenly became so morose and irritable had me wondering if as a PYL I'm supposed to be responding to this in a way other than I had. I had to cut him off mid-whine, kick him out of my bed and put him out of my sight.

If I were posting here weekly or even daily I'd agree that maybe I'm looking for some kind of attention. I'm not. Just some answers. So, catalina, in this instance you are quite wrong about me.

For those who are interested, my sub apologized for his poor behavior. We haven't had the time yet to sit down for a good talk, and that will come this evening or tomorrow. I care a great deal about this man, but we are still becoming familiar with each other. I just don't want familiarity to breed contempt.