Shadowbender55
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A few months back, Literotica's own "Aspasia Fern" had recieved this small prose peice about being nice guys. Then there was a response to it that I had to agree with. And my response to it was -
"NIce Guys Finish Sixth"
Aspasia Fern,
I'd have to agree with Ex-Nice guy, because I still am a nice guy and I still see women going after guys that don't deserve women like that. And I have to ask "What has being the nice guy ever done for me?" In all the years I've been the nice guy I've had 4 relationships that ended in failure, 2 almost girlfriends, and I've been said no to so many times I don't' even want to think about it. So my point is this, what does being the nice guy ever do for us?
Of course, you did say that guys should be "true to themselves", if that was true, then why do women seem to have the overwhelming need or drive to change their man? Believe me I've seen it so many times that it's not even funny. And really it seems more likely that women say that they want the nice guy but deep down they still want that bad boy.
Still, even this email is a good example of that, I have sent several emails to this column, being nice, polite and so on and I have never gotten a reply or anything like that. So that already is a good example of how being the nice guy doesn't get you anywhere. My conclusion is that the phrase of "Nice Guys Finish Last" should be changed to "Nice Guys Finish 6th....in a 5 man race."
I know this because I am a nice guy and I'm still a virgin.
Angry Nice Guy"
And what was her response?
"Dear Angry Nice Guy:
First of all, I appreciate all the letters I get and try to respond to as many as I possibly can. I mean that. I feel so lucky and fortunate to be writing this column and to participate in a forum this open and honest. The readers on Literotica.com are incredibly savvy, open-minded and welcoming!!
Now, back to you.
I think the common misconception is that women want to change their man. I don't know that I totally think that's true. The majority of women I know want their man to treat them like an equal, with respect and dignity out of bed and a cock sucking slutty little whore in bed. But that's just the women I know. What bothers them is the inability to find a man who can accommodate all of the above.
Another thing is that women in their twenties are so different from women in their thirties and so on and so forth. A woman in her twenties probably does want a boy with an edge, someone who treats her like shit. A woman in her thirties wants a good guy, a menschy sweet man who (of course) still fucks her like a dirty little whore in bed, so that's where the bad boy concept might come into play. A woman in her forties wants a man who is together, whore fucking concept still in play and so on and so forth.
However, all of those stereotypes in play, one fact remains. Each person should not be lumped into a group. Rather, they should be taken at face value. I have plenty of baggage and would prefer not having other women's baggage lumped onto me. It detracts from me.
Instead of thinking you're too nice, just be yourself, whoever that is and when you meet someone, go for it with fervor and passion regardless of the outcome. Take the leap of faith!
Good luck.
Love,
AF"
I still contend to my point of view that nice guys finish sixth, becuase we are the ones who never get any. I know this for a fact because recently I once dated this girl whom I thought that things really were going to kick off, but then came the bedroom problems. She would not have sex whatsoever, in fact she had proclaimed her virginity as a blessing from God. Now don't get me wrong, if someone wants to stay a virgin by choice, that's fine, but to put it under the pretext that God has something to do with it is just asinine. Once could say that it's bad luck, but I"m still wondering what's wrong with this whole picture where a nice guy like me gets squat.
Of course, I know that this thread is going to get some serious backlash from both men and women. So let's sit back and see.
"NIce Guys Finish Sixth"
Aspasia Fern,
I'd have to agree with Ex-Nice guy, because I still am a nice guy and I still see women going after guys that don't deserve women like that. And I have to ask "What has being the nice guy ever done for me?" In all the years I've been the nice guy I've had 4 relationships that ended in failure, 2 almost girlfriends, and I've been said no to so many times I don't' even want to think about it. So my point is this, what does being the nice guy ever do for us?
Of course, you did say that guys should be "true to themselves", if that was true, then why do women seem to have the overwhelming need or drive to change their man? Believe me I've seen it so many times that it's not even funny. And really it seems more likely that women say that they want the nice guy but deep down they still want that bad boy.
Still, even this email is a good example of that, I have sent several emails to this column, being nice, polite and so on and I have never gotten a reply or anything like that. So that already is a good example of how being the nice guy doesn't get you anywhere. My conclusion is that the phrase of "Nice Guys Finish Last" should be changed to "Nice Guys Finish 6th....in a 5 man race."
I know this because I am a nice guy and I'm still a virgin.
Angry Nice Guy"
And what was her response?
"Dear Angry Nice Guy:
First of all, I appreciate all the letters I get and try to respond to as many as I possibly can. I mean that. I feel so lucky and fortunate to be writing this column and to participate in a forum this open and honest. The readers on Literotica.com are incredibly savvy, open-minded and welcoming!!
Now, back to you.
I think the common misconception is that women want to change their man. I don't know that I totally think that's true. The majority of women I know want their man to treat them like an equal, with respect and dignity out of bed and a cock sucking slutty little whore in bed. But that's just the women I know. What bothers them is the inability to find a man who can accommodate all of the above.
Another thing is that women in their twenties are so different from women in their thirties and so on and so forth. A woman in her twenties probably does want a boy with an edge, someone who treats her like shit. A woman in her thirties wants a good guy, a menschy sweet man who (of course) still fucks her like a dirty little whore in bed, so that's where the bad boy concept might come into play. A woman in her forties wants a man who is together, whore fucking concept still in play and so on and so forth.
However, all of those stereotypes in play, one fact remains. Each person should not be lumped into a group. Rather, they should be taken at face value. I have plenty of baggage and would prefer not having other women's baggage lumped onto me. It detracts from me.
Instead of thinking you're too nice, just be yourself, whoever that is and when you meet someone, go for it with fervor and passion regardless of the outcome. Take the leap of faith!
Good luck.
Love,
AF"
I still contend to my point of view that nice guys finish sixth, becuase we are the ones who never get any. I know this for a fact because recently I once dated this girl whom I thought that things really were going to kick off, but then came the bedroom problems. She would not have sex whatsoever, in fact she had proclaimed her virginity as a blessing from God. Now don't get me wrong, if someone wants to stay a virgin by choice, that's fine, but to put it under the pretext that God has something to do with it is just asinine. Once could say that it's bad luck, but I"m still wondering what's wrong with this whole picture where a nice guy like me gets squat.
Of course, I know that this thread is going to get some serious backlash from both men and women. So let's sit back and see.
