When do you give up?

[SweetErika]

If they say the magic words "I'm a virgin waiting for marriage".

Religious (and frequently indecisive) nutjobs are the worst.

You don't need anything or anyone beyond your own right hand, maybe a pocket pussy if you're a guy or a double-ended dildo if you're a woman/girl.

Save yourself years of depression, anger, and frustration and just give up now.

Period.

Let's face a nasty fact. You and every other straight/available employed young man on earth are a zero, a "nothing" to most women.

If you're not a gambling-addled, alcoholic, drug addicted child mollester with accumulated back child support or credit card debt in the hundreds of millions and/or a major criminal record following you the rest of your life...straight/available women (that haven't already had kids with every fuck-buddy they've ever had) under 55 years old want absolutely nothing at all to do with you unless you're a millionaire or billionaire...in which case a sex worker is still the more honest option.

I advocate abstinence or paid sex workers over most regular women as the dating / relationship scene is just too fucked-up to bother with.

If you aren't dealing with weird relatives and ex's that won't go away and give you privacy, you're either dealing with someone comatose or gay/lesbian or transgendered and possibly not "out" yet.

Well, yeah, if you're as angry and crazy as you've shown in this post, of course you're not going to be attractive to anything but sex workers and complete nutjobs. You appear to have way more baggage than everyone else you're pointing your finger at.

 

[readygo87]

I dated a woman, who was great. The sex was amazing, the best I had. She got ill, not life threatening, but life changing. I was okay with that, until she gave up on herself.

I stayed with her too long, and I was angry with her and dreaded being with her. Her health, mental and physical, got worse, and I couldn't take it. I wasn't good for her and she wasn't good for me.

If you find yourself angry with her and hating being around her, it is time. You can't fix people who don't want to be fixed.

 

[micia_sira]

No matter how hard you try, you cannot make another person happy. You can delight them momentarily, amuse them, surprise them, entertain them perhaps, but fundamentally, the happiness of another person is that person's own responsibility. Likewise, if being around this person is causing your own happiness to deteriorate, then some kind of adjustment must be made, and you are the one who should make it-just as he is responsible for his own happiness, you must take responsibility for your own.

Best answer to such a question! Do what you feel will be right for you, not what could probably be expected as your duty in a relationship. Sometimes it's better to go through a suffering time while separating and be able to enjoy life better after the emotional stress.

The best example for that is my own family.
My parents, they were married for 20 years, went through the whole story (work escessively, couple therapy, etc.) in the last 4 years of their marriage, before they decided to separate and finally divorce. Although they did everything to least affect us children, the time of fight took a lot on the family. Especially me and my relationship with my first boyfriend (I was 15 by that time). It was a very hard time for all of us.
At the end, it turned out better for all of us. My mother was finally able to go on in her work and even my father improved his career. They both found new love and live in fulfilling relationships with their partners.

I hope, that gives you the courage needed to act and the strength needed to go through it.

 

[grrlongrrrl]

Don't ask for advice about this shit on the Internet. None of these people, well intentioned as they are, have a fucking clue what's going on in your life, have not heard your hubby's side of it, and yet they're telling you (mostly) to toss your twelve year marriage aside and throw your kids under the bus. That is fucked up, IMO.

K