When did/Have I become part of the community?

Labels are stupid.

I'm Dom for women. I tend to be very sub for men. So am I a switch? Given the choice I'll jump into bed with a woman every time, so am I straight?, I don't find men attractive, but occasionally I like a dominant man to make me suck on his cock or pin me down and force fuck me. Am I bi? But then I also love fucking trans women. Am I pansexual?

I just love sex, and kink, it may different ways. I don't need labels, just willing accomplices.
 
Labels are stupid.

I'm Dom for women. I tend to be very sub for men. So am I a switch? Given the choice I'll jump into bed with a woman every time, so am I straight?, I don't find men attractive, but occasionally I like a dominant man to make me suck on his cock or pin me down and force fuck me. Am I bi? But then I also love fucking trans women. Am I pansexual?

I just love sex, and kink, it may different ways. I don't need labels, just willing accomplices.
If you are having sex with pans then yes you might be pansexual. If you are having sex with other humans you are sexual and we are all a strange mix of desires, needs and functions. It doesn't change you, just varies your individual outlook from that of others in some way(s). Why try to label the unlabelable?
I enjoy sex with females, and when properly accoutered with males. Generally passive I more accept what happens and respond accordingly then instigate more than my obsession towards feminised exhibitionism.
 
If you are having sex with pans then yes you might be pansexual. If you are having sex with other humans you are sexual and we are all a strange mix of desires, needs and functions. It doesn't change you, just varies your individual outlook from that of others in some way(s). Why try to label the unlabelable?
I enjoy sex with females, and when properly accoutered with males. Generally passive I more accept what happens and respond accordingly then instigate more than my obsession towards feminised exhibitionism.
Number four :)
 
If you are having sex with pans then yes you might be pansexual.
It was a rhetorical question. Yes, pan is the closest to a standard definition (and no, not everyone I have sex with is pan; their orientation is irrelevant). I don't think pan adequately describes exacxtly where I'm at, but it's reasonably close. And as I said, I don't need labels.
 
You're part of the community when one of two things happens:

1, you decide you are, based on your sexuality or gender identity fitting in to any of the many, many letters in the boundless alphabet soup.

2, you experience a sense of being queered by other people. Even if nobody knows your secret and nobody has ever bashed, made fun of, or discriminated against you, if you even suspect that any of those things might happen and that causes you to consider closeting yourself, that's part of the queer experience. Anyone who experiences it is entitled to identify with the community. In fact, it might be the only thing the entirety of the community has in common. There are identities under the umbrella which don't overlap in any way at all, and even utterly contradict each other, but every one of them has the personal understanding of being othered by judgemental "normies" or even by other queers.
Oh, number 2 for sure... Haven't heard that any clearer.

Being queered by other people, even if they don't know.

I have fealt this, but didn't know how to interpret this.

Great insight.
 
Anyone who experiences it is entitled to identify with the community. In fact, it might be the only thing the entirety of the community has in common.
What Vonnegut referred to as Granfallooon; people who believe they share an identity based on circumstances of little or no meaning.

Like... X likes worshipping feet, Y enjoys being hung from a meathook and beaten til they bleed and Z likes to wear women's underwear, therefore they are all in the same tribe. But there's a difference between identifying with the community and joining it.

In many ways the community is a flag of convenience under which all the misfits gather and the links are often tenuous at best but it works. I've been at gatherings (munches) where the range of kink, gay or straight, is so disparate that the only common ground is kink itself; you may not understand one another's kinks and fetishes but you're all in a safe space where revealing yourself doesn't prompt shame or ridicule. You're all fellow travellers on a journey where everyone has a different destination.
 
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there's a difference between identifying with the community and joining it.
Other people will (and do) lump all the queers together, though. Even the queers who don’t relate to the other queers.

So yeah, in addition to what you said, there’s something problematic about ā€œa communityā€ which is defined by people who aren’t part of it.

Nevertheless, anyone who asks whether they’re entitled to the ā€œqueerā€ label almost certainly is, if it came about as the result of prejudice, misunderstanding and othering by anyone anywhere ever. And people are still entitled to it even if they don’t choose to or feel aligned today.

Not to get political, but tomorrow the prevailing conditions may be different enough to change the minds of the queers who have been ā€œpassingā€ and unthreatened so far.

My hat is off to people who haven’t ever had queerness forced upon them. Of course they’re free to enjoy the privilege.
 
It's pride month so I suppose it's time to acknowledge a few things.

It's not an uncommon story. I grew up never questioning my orientation (straight). I've been attracted to panties and cross dressing since an early age but it never confused me, I was just a guy who liked to wear lingerie. Never wanted to be a woman. Never wondered if I was gay, never thought about being with another guy. It was just a lingerie kink.

But flash forward 50 years. Sexless marriage. Falling further into internet forums and I finally admitted to my wife I liked to wear panties and had that conversation. I assured her I didn't want to be a woman, only liked wearing some of their clothes. It was a kink, not a lifestyle.

That kink led to surfing forums late at night, and the more I surfed, the further I slid. Early on when the internt forums and chat sites were just getting started I realized most of the people I was chatting with were guys pretending to be women.

Me? LGBTQIA? Nah. I just had a panty fetish. That over the years had grown and now I was open to chatting with guys on fetish sites. And by chatting, I maen cyber play. Serving them. But it was just a kink. No LGBT

Being in panties and lingerie made me feel submissive. That led to a cyber dom. He convinced me to shave my legs. Everything below my waist actually. I loved the look and feel. I did pretty much anything he requested. When chatting with others I would go pretty much wherever they led too, but I wasn't part of the LGBT crowd. Mine was a kink. There's was a lifestyle.

And then I went down the rabbit hole. When having happy hours at home with my wife I would serve her while wearing only panties. When I vacuumed or did housework I would do it in panties. She had no reaction good or bad. She didn't know what to think.

I had seen writings on becoming a sissy. I already did some of the things that were mentioned.
Serving men became a huge fantasy. I had a strong desire to suck a cock just to feel what it was like.
My dom decided to step it up too. He requested I start anal training with the goal of being able to cum from just anal stimulation. I bought a vibrating butt plug. I had done a little anal play before, but not like this. I loved using the plug. At first it was hard to insert. Then it became easy. Simply inserting it led to a spurt of precum on a couple occasions.

It started to consider that this was more than a fetish. It shocked me a bit but I was realizing I liked playing the part of a sissy. It changed from the thought of serving a man being exciting to the thought that someday I was going to serve a man being exciting.

My dom told me to change my profile on the fetish sites. There was no way I could say I was straight anymore. I changed it to hetroflexible.

I'm still not confused about being gay - I'm not. But with my wife's complete lack of interest in any sort of sexual relationship I honestly think I'm more likely to have sex with a guy than I am with a woman.

So we're back to pride month. I still don't claim that I am part of the LGBTQIA community, but it's more than a fetish at this point. My everyday persona doesn't really understand it, but if I'm being completley honest, it's not just a lingerie fetish, I fit the description of a sissy and would be happy to wear lingerie and serve someone who enjoys such things. It's so not my public personality but yeah, the desires are there.

So I may be part of the community, I may not be. I don't know. Public me says it's just a fetish. Private me says I'm certainly not straight, so I must fit in somewhere...
Great post and your experience is so similar to mine, I think there are a lot of us, I wish there was some sort of safe network that would allow us to get together occasionally
 
Great post and your experience is so similar to mine, I think there are a lot of us, I wish there was some sort of safe network that would allow us to get together occasionally
The sexlessness gets to us very quickly.
 
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