What's your quick-fix solution?

[Recidiva]

You know what, Recidiva, if people get comfort and help from their religion, then I say, good on ya. I know people who are basically very weak, and who, if not for their belief in God, would not be able to even get through their lives day to day. They need the comfort that having a loving God watching over them brings, and who am I to deny that to someone who needs it. If it helps folks, great. If praying makes you feel like you are doing something, awesomeness.

Where it bothers me is when people use religion and the bible to hate on others. To shame them and try to impose their beliefs on others. Like the whole Westborough Bible Chapel shitheads. That to me is just using the veil of Jesus to justify hate. Not cool. Or the whole "my religion is better than your religion" stuff. As long as whatever you choose to believe in helps you live a good, useful, productive life, and you don't go hurting others in the process, then I don't care if you worship dung beetles, really.

It is extremely difficult to have a brain that likes to find patterns and solve problems and then grow up to realize, there are more problems than patterns and we live according to the second law of thermodynamics. You are entropy's bitch.

If someone needs a little less horror in their life than pure physics, then okay.

The guys who are assholes are just the entropy. They're not really trying to live a thoughtful life.

They live by the crotch and the rush and they will die by the crotch and the rush.

If you want to live by your brain and you're limping so badly you need a crutch, then by all means use it.

 

[SigmundFraud]

Outlaw all religion

 

[Aphro]

I'm not a Christian, dimwit. Something else you don't know shit about.

So tell me then, to whom were you praying to deliver you from the boogey man back in the stone ages? Or perhaps more importantly what deity is guiding your obviously gentle path these days?

I think is so cute how you've made it your most recent mission to try and rattle my cage. If I didn't know better, I would think you actually liked me. Kinda like the boy who dips the little girls' pigtails in the inkwell...

 

[Recidiva]

So tell me then, to whom where you praying to deliver you from the boogey man back in the stone ages? Or perhaps more importantly what deity is guiding your obviously gentle path these days?

I think is so cute how you've made it your most recent mission to try and rattle my cage. If I didn't know better, I would think you actually liked me. Kinda like the boy who dips the little girls' pigtails in the inkwell...

Yes, he likes to try to kneecap people and then admire their jumping ability.

It's perverse but basically harmless as both the crowbar and the admiration are ephemeral and virtual.

 

[SigmundFraud]

Outlaw post-its.

 

[Recidiva]

Outlaw post-its.

You can have my recycled-paper tastefully colored Post-Its when you pry them from my dead desk.

 

[Aphro]

Outlaw post-its.

Fie! I love me some post-its. I like the ones that come in cool shapes the best, like stars and hearts, or neon colours. I pay extra for that.

 

[SigmundFraud]

You can have my recycled-paper tastefully colored Post-Its when you pry them from my dead desk.

Fie! I love me some post-its. I like the ones that come in cool shapes the best, like stars and hearts, or neon colours. I pay extra for that.

You're mental illness is beyond my ability.

But lay down on my couch anyway.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

So tell me then, to whom where you praying to deliver you from the boogey man back in the stone ages? Or perhaps more importantly what deity is guiding your obviously gentle path these days?

I think is so cute how you've made it your most recent mission to try and rattle my cage. If I didn't know better, I would think you actually liked me. Kinda like the boy who dips the little girls' pigtails in the inkwell...

Get a copy of Julian Jaynes' THE ORIGIN OF CONSCIOUSNESS IN THE BREAKDOWN OF THE BICAMERAL MIND.

Until 500BC humans were under the influence of both sides of their brains, and one side was authoritarian and godly. When it commanded JUMP you jumped. No one had a sense of self as we do today..

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Yes, he likes to try to kneecap people and then admire their jumping ability.

It's perverse but basically harmless as both the crowbar and the admiration are ephemeral and virtual.

I do, I kneecap their minds like DiNiro in the Capone movie.

 

[Recidiva]

Get a copy of Julian Jaynes' THE ORIGIN OF CONSCIOUSNESS IN THE BREAKDOWN OF THE BICAMERAL MIND.

Until 500BC humans were under the influence of both sides of their brains, and one side was authoritarian and godly. When it commanded JUMP you jumped. No one had a sense of self as we do today..

There's a lot of good books about neuroscience and religion. The idea that Zeus was "watching over" Odysseus is a modern reading of the text. What it meant then is that Zeus owned Odysseus and was using him as his vessel. People only existed as the vessels of the Gods. Not like today where we consider it an "influence" It was real and concrete. You didn't think. You were told what to do by Gods and Demons and Spirits and there was no sense of "inner dialogue" - just orders from Gods.

We used to just call it "myth" - about how the brain makes up things to explain unknown phenomena.

It goes much deeper and is much more interesting than that.

Religious history is the "ontogeny recapitulates ontology" (only this time actually true) of human thought.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHH9EYZHoVU

AFRODEITY WILL FAULT THE LOUSIVILLE SLUGGER PEOPLE, OF COURSE

 

[subdued_passion]

But some things are right, and theyre right regardless of whether Jesus advocated for them or the idea came from cummy mouth of Saint Faggot of San Francisco.

^^^Another winner!


Unfortunately most people are too concerned with who is delivering the message rather than paying attention to the message itself.

 

[Recidiva]

I do, I kneecap their minds like DiNiro in the Capone movie.

You try. You like the people that jump or realize the crowbar is pretend.

If someone complains about their knees hurting you just laugh and swing harder.

You're a bastard, but a consistent, self-aware bastard.

 

[Busybody]

^^^Another winner!


Unfortunately most people are too concerned with who is delivering the message rather than paying attention to the message itself.

sorta

like

me

right

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

There's a lot of good books about neuroscience and religion. The idea that Zeus "watching over" Odysseus is a modern reading of the text. What it meant then is that Zeus owned Odysseus and was using him as his vessel. People only existed as the vessels of the Gods. Not like today where we consider it an "influence" It was real and concrete. You didn't think. You were told what to do by Gods and Demons and Spirits and there was no sense of "inner dialogue" - just orders from Gods.

We used to just call it "myth" - about how the brain makes up things to explain unknown phenomena.

It goes much deeper and is much more interesting than that.

Religious history is the "ontogeny recapitulates ontology" (only this time actually true) of human thought.

You got it.

 

[Aphro]

Get a copy of Julian Jaynes' THE ORIGIN OF CONSCIOUSNESS IN THE BREAKDOWN OF THE BICAMERAL MIND.

Until 500BC humans were under the influence of both sides of their brains, and one side was authoritarian and godly. When it commanded JUMP you jumped. No one had a sense of self as we do today..

....In a 1987 letter to the American Journal of Psychiatry, Dr. H. Steven Moffic questioned why Jaynes's theory was left out of a discussion on auditory hallucinations by Drs. Assad and Shapiro. In response, Drs. Assad and Shapiro wrote, "…Jaynes' hypothesis makes for interesting reading and stimulates much thought in the receptive reader. It does not, however, adequately explain one of the central mysteries of madness: hallucination."[15]

Drs. Asaad and Shapiro's comment that there is no evidence for involvement of the right temporal lobe in auditory hallucination was incorrect even at that time.[16][17] A number of more recent studies provide additional evidence to right hemisphere involvement in auditory hallucinations. Recent neuroimaging studies provide new evidence for Jaynes's neurological model, i.e. auditory hallucinations arising in the right temporal-parietal lobe and being transmitted to the left temporal-parietal lobe. This was pointed out by Dr. Robert Olin in Lancet[18] and Dr. Leo Sher in the Journal of Psychiatry and Neuroscience,[19] and further discussed in the book Reflections on the Dawn of Consciousness.[20]

James, your right temporal-parietal lobe is acting up again.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

^^^Another winner!


Unfortunately most people are too concerned with who is delivering the message rather than paying attention to the message itself.

The truth is the truth, and I serve the truth.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

James, your right temporal-parietal lobe is acting up again.

I had a head injury in Vietnam. I'm a victim. I want a check.

 

[Aphro]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHH9EYZHoVU

AFRODEITY WILL FAULT THE LOUSIVILLE SLUGGER PEOPLE, OF COURSE

This was actually a really great movie. Brutal, but good.

And lookie here! I gots me a new nickname now! Woo Hoo!

He likes me...he really likes me!

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

James, your right temporal-parietal lobe is acting up again.

Recall that 40 years ago fags were mentally ill according to the high priests of psychiatry. In my humble (i'm not really humble) opinion theyre idiots.

 

[Aphro]

I had a head injury in Vietnam. I'm a victim. I want a check.

A check, or a cheque? Or maybe both?

I just LOVE my new nickname by the way. But only you are allowed to call me that, okay? Keeps it special, just between us.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

This was actually a really great movie. Brutal, but good.

And lookie here! I gots me a new nickname now! Woo Hoo!

He likes me...he really likes me!

If I didn't like you I wouldn't give me a stroke dealing with you. I ignore the brain dead.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

A check, or a cheque? Or maybe both?

I just LOVE my new nickname by the way. But only you are allowed to call me that, okay? Keeps it special, just between us.

On another board I commented that SPAM usually tastes better than pussy, except for Canadian pussy. God I wish you people canned it and exported it to America.

Ditto Indian pussy. I've never had any but it looks tasty, too.

 

[Recidiva]

Recall that 40 years ago fags were mentally ill according to the high priests of psychiatry. In my humble (i'm not really humble) opinion theyre idiots.

I proofread a medical dictionary for Simon and Schuster once. Under "Homosexuality" it was called something like..a hysterical brain disorder of the socially maladjusted.

They also called "kuru" a form of group hysteria.

I had to send a special note saying that there was technically nothing wrong with the words, as they were not misspelled. I suggested alternatives that were more medical and included different words, including "prion."

I got a thank you note.