What's your line in the sand?

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[bronzeage]

I denounced the shit out of him.

Why so shy now?

 

[eyer]

You might want to check to see if the phrase "that figment ferments from..." indicates familiarity with the language. Language is, after all, essential for thought.

You must forgive me for not speaking nerd...

 

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[Peregrinator]

You must forgive me for not speaking nerd...

I don't know what that means. I do know your presumed native language is lacking, and that if you're going to impugn someone's ability to think, you might look to the beam in your own eye.

Disclaimer: If English is not in fact your first language, then I admire your ability with it and wish I were as fluent in any other language than the one of my birth as you are in this one.

 

[Peregrinator]

Kyl wasn't under oath,

The floor of the Senate is a perfectly reasonable place to lie, in your estimation?


"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God."


...unless lying for political gain seems expedient. Then fuck it.

 

[bronzeage]

Kyl wasn't under oath, and next to Obama, his inanity shrinks into insignificance.

It still looks like a lie to me. It shows a low opinion of the people who support him. He thinks they are stupid enough to accept this kind of duplicity without question.

Is there any virtue in telling the truth only when there is a threat of punishment. Sort of like stealing when no one is watching.

 

[eyer]

Disclaimer: If English is not in fact your first language, then I admire your ability with it and wish I were as fluent in any other language than the one of my birth as you are in this one.

If you attempt to think again...

...maybe getting DISCLAIMER tattooed on your forehead would save you words.

 

[Peregrinator]

If you attempt to think again...

...maybe getting DISCLAIMER tattooed on your forehead would save you words.

That figment of imagination ferments from where the fuck ever you seem to think it's possible to ferment from.

 

[Luk]

If you attempt to think again...

...maybe getting DISCLAIMER tattooed on your forehead would save you words.

You sure tend to talk to those you brag about having on ignore a lot.

 

[eyer]

See...

...I intentionally left off "imagination" from my earlier use of "figment" and even as thought-challenged as you are, you're still able to connect that 2nd grade level-obvious dot.

Step it up to the 4th grade level...

...and you might even be able to communicate with your more socialist peers.

 

[eyer]

You sure tend to talk to those you brag about having on ignore a lot.

T o d a y i s A p r i l 1 6 , d i k . . .

. . . t r y t o k e e p u p.


The positive thing about spewing as much as you do...

...is that there's always an iota of a chance that a grain of sense might appear from your fingers.

We'll wait...

 

[Peregrinator]

FACT:

I've never once posted anything that even suggests "that the USA is now a communist nation under Obama."

That figment of imagination ferments entirely from you...

...rookie.



USSA = the United Socialist State of America



By definition, political lemmings can never "get it"...

...they simply find following to be natural.

http://forum.literotica.com/showpost.php?p=37305009&postcount=8

See...

...I intentionally left off "imagination" from my earlier use of "figment" and even as thought-challenged as you are, you're still able to connect that 2nd grade level-obvious dot.

Step it up to the 4th grade level...

...and you might even be able to communicate with your more socialist peers.

No, you didn't. You're entirely missing my point. A figment, whether one of imagination or of anything else, doesn't "ferment from" anywhere. You've misused "ferment." Anyone reasonably familiar with the language would know that. You may have been looking for "foment," but that would still be misused. A word like "arise" or "result" might have served. The post looks like you over-reaching your fluency, much the way you over-reach your ability to reason. It's all in your attitude.

 

[Peregrinator]

You sure tend to talk to those you brag about having on ignore a lot.

That's right; I forgot he said I was on ignore.

 

[Luk]

T o d a y i s A p r i l 1 6 ,

Yep. And you still post to those you brag about having on ignore. I know, you just hate the feeling of not seeing someone call you out for being...

...lame.

Sonny needs to make a "Post like eyer" thread.

 

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[neci]

Another thing, why would 1,158,924 women go to Planned Parenthood for a pregnancy test when they can get the tests at the nearest drug store, to do at home, for next to nothing. This tells me that a lot more women actually go to Planned Parenthood with the intention of getting an abortion if needed, which adds more to the importance of the abortion service than the 3% might indicate at first glance.

you sometimes have to wait weeks for a regular dr appt, it is more expensive, and every doctor will tell you that if you have a positive OTC pregnancy test, you need to have it confirmed sooner than later. they also refer women to ob/gyns. since most women just go there for the yearly pap and birth control visit, they probably don't already have an ob. this tells me that your first glance may need a second glance.

 

[Sonny Limatina]

You sure tend to talk to those you brag about having on ignore a lot.

Lit Rule Number I-Can't-Remember-the-Number: If someone says you're on ignore, you're not on ignore. If someone posts the "This post hidden..." thing, that post wasn't hidden.

 

[Peregrinator]

Only the extremely terminally naive are unaware that the United States Senate is one of the great bullshitting organizations on Earth. You gotta be shittin' me.

So then it's okay?

 

[Sonny Limatina]

Sonny needs to make a "Post like eyer" thread.

I could just make a "Post like a cross between AJ and Off2bed" thread and cut out the middle man.

 

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[Ishmael]

New York (CNN) -- "Not intended to be a factual statement."

This was the sound of the curtain coming back on what passes for political debate too often these days.

The now-infamous statement from Sen. Jon Kyl's office was released after he said on the floor of the U.S. Senate that abortions represent "over 90 percent of what Planned Parenthood does."

It turns out that the actual number is 3%, a mere rounding error of 87%. But it was presented to the American people and enshrined in the Senate Record as a means of arguing that Planned Parenthood should be entirely defunded in the current budget.

This has nothing to do with fiscal responsibility and everything to do with the disproportionate influence of social conservative activists.

Their most compelling argument is that the American people don't support federal taxpayer money paying for abortions, which is true -- and why federal funding of abortion has been banned since 1976.

But the facts are inconvenient, and so they are ignored. Instead, talking points taken from talk radio are repeated until they take on a life of their own and eventually get the validation of a U.S. senator.

The news wasn't that Kyl made a mistake; it was his staff essentially acknowledging that in the current hyper-partisan environment, facts are a secondary concern, even on the floor of the U.S. Senate, even when they are paraded as statistics. The important thing is to scare the hell out of people so that they remember your political point and pass it on.

Like the mirror image of some hippies of old, emotional truth is more important than literal truth. It creates a political tower of Babel.

In this absurd spin cycle, there's one dependable place to look for sanity: satire. And on cue came Stephen Colbert, who took Kyl's statement as a challenge and dialed it up to 11. Using the Twitter hashtag #NotIntendedToBeAFactualStatement, Colbert unleashed a steady stream of Jon Kyl mistruths with the requisite denial. Among my favorites:

• Jon Kyl developed his own line of hair care products just so he could test them on bunnies.

• Jon Kyl can unhinge his jaw like a python to swallow small rodents whole.

• Every Halloween Jon Kyl dresses up as a sexy Mitch Daniels.

• Jon Kyl sponsored S.410, which would ban happiness.

• Jon Kyl let a game-winning ground ball roll through his legs in Game 6 of the '86 World Series.

• Jon Kyl once ate a badger he hit with his car.

You get the idea. But the problem is much bigger than Jon Kyl. Colbert is going to have to get a bigger hashtag. Because we're heading to a strange place where Daniel Patrick Moynihan's truism "everyone is entitled to their own opinion but not their own facts" no longer applies.

Exhibit B this week: Donald Trump's re-enflaming of the thoroughly discredited birther conspiracy theory. When he repeats this falsehood in interviews, he is too often treated as a man with an unorthodox opinion, not someone repeating a lie on national television.

As a result, more people are duped and the country more divided, not on the many rational reasons to oppose President Obama's policy agenda but on paranoid fantasies cut out of whole cloth.

Perhaps not surprisingly, a man responsible for pushing the birther myth -- and a reported recent Trump adviser -- Joe Farah of the fringe website World Net Daily freely admitted to Salon.com this week that his site publishes "some misinformation."

"Misinformation" is a fancy word for lying with an ideological agenda in mind. It has become more acceptable and more influential with the rise of partisan media. It preys on the gullible and the stupid and the ditto-head alike.

The cycle of incitement that afflicts our politics ensures that this dynamic bleeds into both sides of the aisle. For example, the liberal Campaign for America's Future recently declared that "Congressman Eric Cantor wants to eliminate Social Security," a flat-out "pants on fire" lie, as described by indispensable PolitiFact.

A little-noticed local example of this strangeness caught my eye this week, courtesy of the website ThinkProgress. It seems that Texas state Rep. Leo Berman put forward a bill to ban sharia law in the Lone Star State.

When he was asked why such a step was necessary, he cited the city of Dearborn, Michigan, six times in testimony: "It's being done in Dearborn, Michigan ... because of a large population of Middle Easterners. The judges in Dearborn are using and allowing to be used sharia law."

This would indeed be troubling (and unconstitutional) if true, but when Berman was pressed about the source of his facts, here's what he said: "I heard it on a radio station here on my way in to the Capitol one day. ... I don't know Dearborn, Michigan, but I heard it on the radio. Isn't that true?"

No, it's not, as Dearborn Mayor Jack O'Reilly has been forced to make abundantly clear, stating that "these people know nothing of Dearborn, and they just seek to provoke and enflame their base for political gain."

But the misinformation percolating around the fringes of hyper-partisan media is creeping into state capitals and the U.S. Congress. Ignorance and incitement begin to blur, compounded by the civic laziness of speakers who don't care to fact-check.

"Not intended to be a factual statement" is an instant dark classic, a triumph of cynicism, capturing the essence of Michael Kinsley's definition of a gaffe in Washington: when a politician accidentally tells the truth.

No wonder "people are taking their comedians seriously and the politicians as a joke," as Will Rogers once said and Colbert increasingly embodies. But we can't keep depending on comedians to be the voices of sanity.

And don't be fooled. There are real costs to this careless courtship of the lowest common denominator. Without fact-based debates, politics can quickly give way to paranoia and hate. Our democracy gets degraded.Americans deserve better, and we should demand better, especially from our elected representatives. Empowering ignorance for political gain is unacceptable.

I see no verifiable citations in the refutations.

Bullshit post.

Ishmael

 

[Luk]

Lit Rule Number I-Can't-Remember-the-Number: If someone says you're on ignore, you're not on ignore. If someone posts the "This post hidden..." thing, that post wasn't hidden.

The definitive post of that rule was when semen did that to me. Then made two or three threads about me.

I could just make a "Post like a cross between AJ and Off2bed" thread and cut out the middle man.

I lol'd.

 

[Joeybagadonuts]

I'm an old fucker; I go back to Ike.

Every president has lied; sometimes for reasons of national security and sometimes for political gain.

All politicians lie.

This case with Kyl is blatant and we shouldn't accept bullshit from any of them.

 

[eyer]

No, you didn't. You're entirely missing my point. A figment, whether one of imagination or of anything else, doesn't "ferment from" anywhere. You've misused "ferment." Anyone reasonably familiar with the language would know that. You may have been looking for "foment," but that would still be misused. A word like "arise" or "result" might have served. The post looks like you over-reaching your fluency, much the way you over-reach your ability to reason. It's all in your attitude.

Yes, I did.

And your point has nothing to do with my words...

...except for the fact your reading comprehension is dull.

Tell me, Webster, how "fermentation" might apply re: a figment of imagination...

...you know, from within?

If you can't begin to grasp...

...stop reaching.

Yep. And you still post to those you brag about having on ignore.

Remind us, dik...

...the last time I "bragged about having" anyone "on ignore"?

I remember having Pere on ignore months ago...along with you and 15-20 others.

I'll wait while you fabricate your next reply...

Sonny needs to make a "Post like eyer" thread.

You need to hope he will...

...'cause you certainly don't have that level of content within you.

That's right; I forgot he said I was on ignore.

No...

...remember:

I "bragged" about having you on ignore.

If you need to keep your nose so close to dik's hole...

...you have to adhere to his deceitful dogma.