What's wrong with me that I find this funny?

[Arlan]

Got a call from the principal that my kid knocked some other kid over and started kicking him, starting a mob attack. Not cool, right?

But her version of the story is that a boy from the next grade up started teasing her and her friends about being little girls, as though there was something wrong with that, and for whatever reason she snapped on him and got the upper hand. Then the other little girls decided they'd like to kick him too.

Of course she's in trouble. I said you shouldn't be violent even if someone is being obnoxious because it's not nice and it's a good way to get yourself in trouble or hurt. I said if someone does that again, try laughing at him and calling him a boy like there's something wrong with that, and let him see how ridiculous it sounds.

Deep down, though, I find this whole thing funny. I know it's wrong, and it wouldn't be funny at all if some boy beat up my daughter because she made some obnoxious remarks about him being a boy. But inside, I keep snickering. Agh. What's wrong with me?

 

[Handley_Page]

But her version of the story is that a boy from the next grade up started teasing her and her friends about being little girls, as though there was something wrong with that, and for whatever reason she snapped on him and got the upper hand. Then the other little girls decided they'd like to kick him too.

Deep down, though, I find this whole thing funny. I know it's wrong, and it wouldn't be funny at all if some boy beat up my daughter because she made some obnoxious remarks about him being a boy. But inside, I keep snickering. Agh. What's wrong with me?

Nothing.

You seen that video of that little bully having a go at some (bigger), but nervous kid?
The 'victim' eventually picks up the little tw*t and body-slams him to the deck.
Bully's Mum is not happy, even when she sees the video.
Victim's Mum says "I try to get him to walk away from a fight".
Both kids get 'banned' (or suspended).
In a poll, over 99% of respondents said the little tw*t deserved it.

I found the you-tube entry: Look here!

 

[SevenSquared]

Are you taking it as gospel that your daughters version of events are true?

 

[lovecraft68]

A long time ago my old man told me "Takers take until they're taken"

Guess what? This asshole punk just got taken.

Now there will be a bunch of whining cry babies who say he didn't deserve it, but at the end of the day guess who is going to think twice about acting like an asshole again?

Corny as it sounds this kid learned a lesson and it may make him a better person. Whereas is the girl did not stick up for herself it would keep happening.

My daughter was involved in a fight about 5 years ago. A boy was giving her shit (verbally at first) she was giving it back. He then pushed her, she pushed him back. One thing led to another and the kid found out the hard way my daughter had 6 years of Kenpo under her belt and got his ass whipped.

So of course I'm in the principles office and even though everyone said the punk started it they're going to suspend her as well and I told the teacher I was fine with it. She was upset but I told her My kids were raised to never start a fight, but hell will freeze over before they will be victims.

What was even more fun is tha asshole kids bigger asshole father asking me what kind of prick I was to raise my daughter that way?

I asked him what kind of prick raised a 17 year old boy to take a swing at a 15 year old girl?

Tell you what that kid had been in a lot of fights before, but that was his last one, because after that he was too damn embarrassed to open his mouth. I realy think my daughter did him a favor. Sure she gave him a nice little shiner, but that's nothing compared to the beating he was destined for down the line when he started thinking he could sling shit to whoever he wanted to.

Things like this happened in the school yard all the time when we were kids and to an extent it is a necessary part of things. YOu learn how to defend yourself, how to conduct yourself and that there are repercussions for being an asshole. THis kid will come out better for it because he now knows you just can't bully people and your daughter kerned how to stick up for herself

And of course based on my personal opinions any boy or man that wants to pick on a girl deserves anything coming to him. I hope one of these little darlings kicked him in the nads. If he had any that is.

 

[lovecraft68]

Are you taking it as gospel that your daughters version of events are true?

Would you take your kids word as gospel? Or is this one of those east to make statements when its not your kid?

 

[Arlan]

I do believe her. It's consistent with what the principal said, and if she were telling lies to justify her behaviour in an effort to stay out of trouble, I think she'd probably invent some more serious provocation.

And Lovecraft, if he had shoved her or something, it'd be different. But nobody is saying he did anything but call her a little girl in an annoying tone of voice more than once. People who lose their cool and take a swing at anyone who ticks them off don't fare too well in life. Wouldn't be right for me to encourage that sort of thing.

But yeah. I suspect he won't be giving any more little girls a hard time about being little girls.

 

[SevenSquared]

Would you take your kids word as gospel? Or is this one of those east to make statements when its not your kid?

I wouldn't take any child's word as gospel, mine or anybody else's. That's not to say I would automatically assume they were lying either, and I certainly wouldn't call one of my children a liar to their face without very good reason, but it's extremely naive to think that everything your child tells you is the truth, regardless of how well you think you have brought them up.

Kids lie, especially when they think it might get them out of trouble.

I do believe her. It's consistent with what the principal said, and if she were telling lies to justify her behaviour in an effort to stay out of trouble, I think she'd probably invent some more serious provocation.

True, although it would more likely be a lie of omission. Knowing the way playground encounters usually work, the truth is more likely to be that something minor kicked off the incident, which escalated into a war of words and then actions. Let's just say if you spoke to the other kid's parents, no doubt you will hear a very different version of events (not saying that you should mind).

 

[TE999]

Got a call from the principal that my kid knocked some other kid over and started kicking him, starting a mob attack. Not cool, right?

But her version of the story is that a boy from the next grade up started teasing her and her friends about being little girls, as though there was something wrong with that, and for whatever reason she snapped on him and got the upper hand. Then the other little girls decided they'd like to kick him too.

Of course she's in trouble. I said you shouldn't be violent even if someone is being obnoxious because it's not nice and it's a good way to get yourself in trouble or hurt. I said if someone does that again, try laughing at him and calling him a boy like there's something wrong with that, and let him see how ridiculous it sounds.

Deep down, though, I find this whole thing funny. I know it's wrong, and it wouldn't be funny at all if some boy beat up my daughter because she made some obnoxious remarks about him being a boy. But inside, I keep snickering. Agh. What's wrong with me?

There's nothing wrong with you; you're just not being a candy-ass and neither was your daughter.

Good for your daughter! Take her out for ice cream and buy her a toy.

Hooray for those other girls too! Teaches that sexist fool right.

Also tell her the next time someone picks on her and once they're on the ground, if it's a boy kick him in the nuts; if it's a girl, kick her in the tits. Once an opponents down, make 'em stay down. You won, enjoy it.

Tell those wimps in that school that your daughter was defending herself and you're proud of her. All these fucking public schools practice nowadays is social engineering instead of academics anyway.

 

[Arlan]

True, although it would more likely be a lie of omission. Knowing the way playground encounters usually work, the truth is more likely to be that something minor kicked off the incident, which escalated into a war of words and then actions. Let's just say if you spoke to the other kid's parents, no doubt you will hear a very different version of events (not saying that you should mind).

I realize they may have had some differences before that.

Then again, my experience on the playground was that people actually did harass me without any provocation whatsoever.

Who knows?

 

[sr71plt]

Whether or not you believe her doesn't necessarily negate seeing something amusing in the event. And that isn't necessarily connected with the teaching moment needs from the event either. They can all be separate issues.

If little Billy lets out a fart while Granddad Dan is saying grace over the Thanksgiving meal, it's natural to see both amusement and embarrassment in the event.

In the scenario you give, there isn't one clearcut issue running. I think you can react to the separate elements of the issue separately.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Whether or not you believe her doesn't necessarily negate seeing something amusing in the event. And that isn't necessarily connected with the teaching moment needs from the event either. They can all be separate issues.

If little Billy lets out a fart while Granddad Dan is saying grace over the Thanksgiving meal, it's natural to see both amusement and embarrassment in the event.

In the scenario you give, there isn't one clearcut issue running. I think you can react to the separate elements of the issue separately.

Good heavens, Pilot, this would have been the post I would have made.