I recently made the jump from reading and commenting anonymously to making a slightly less anonymous profile for saving favorite stories and commenting. I'm already regretting taking the chance. The second feedback I posted under the profile drew me a condescending message from the author and the ire of two other commenters who were compelled to address my feedback in multiple entries to the story's feedback section.
My feedback was almost verbatim, "I found the first two sentences awkward and distracting. I don't think they work well.
'I always thought, since I was little, that good was the first word of a candy package.' Which is it? Is that something you've always thought or only since you were little? They aren't the same thing, and if they were, stating both would be redundant.
'I never thought it might apply to my next-door neighbor, Veronica.' It looks like you're trying for smooth and clever, but those two statements together are clunky and awkward, so much so that I couldn't get past the second paragraph."
Because, you know, sometimes you get a a taste of an author's writing and if you find it to be clunky and awkward you're put off on reading a whole piece if you think you have more of that to look forward to. Whether my feedback is considered positive or negative by the author, I do attempt to make the tone neutral and not aggressively insulting. It's not like I wrote, "Here's one star, douche bag." I put thought into it. I don't even think I rated it at that time.
"Hi Adverbly,
I see you're new to Literotica. Thank you for your comment on my story "The Girl Next Door." The candy is Good and Plenty. I've been told that my writing has improved over the last few years but alas, clearly not enough to meet your standards. You did the right thing to stop reading, although had you overridden your good sense and continued, you might have ended up enjoying the story. I'd like to imagine it to be so. I guess we'll never know. Look, take some Xanax and lighten up a bit, why don't you? Yours, <author name>"
I don't care if authors respond to feedback. It's certainly not expected, but I can honestly say my remarks were made in good faith that I was saying something potentially helpful (if the author so chooses. Again, no great expectations from me.) His whole message was self-serving and dripping with false humility. He completely ignored my very specific points in favor of mansplaining a different point to me and tried to invalidate my opinion because he's been writing on the site longer than the age of my profile. Telling someone to lighten up because they don't share the same opinion as you goes over as smoothly as telling someone to calm down. Who is going to go out of their way to read stories by an author who goes out of his way to insult them?
I revisited the feedback section to see if anyone else had feedback similar to mine in case I was off the mark. Normally I would potentially give the story a second chance.
"aggressive wackadoo
A most delightful tale. Five stars. Note to adverbly: You are the grammatical genius. Check the punctuation and work it out. Too bad you suffer from anal-cranial inversion. You missed a great story. It's your loss."
I responded almost verbatim with, "I'm not looking for praise, but thank you. You are too kind. Your observation was quite alarming. I hope you'll be glad to know I examined my parts, and they are properly verted. Phew!"
"anonymous wackadoo
Adverbly obviously didn't enjoy growing up. This is a great story...I for one never worry about descriptions of situations or people. It's much more fun and satisfying to find out on your own. This is a story....It's too bad...he missed a great story and probably a lot of fun in his personal life, by letting some talk (or verbiage) get in the way."
That's just outright stupid.
I thought the aggressive wackadoo's comment toward me was unnecessary and a little unhinged, but I responded humorously and borderline kindly in an effort to be like, "Keep it cool, dude," but he did not like that and showed me what unhinged really looks like.
"aggressive wackadoo
Note to both adverbly and dou1t2 - There are those that write to entertain us and those that can produce nothing but criticism. Why don't you try contributing something more entertaining than complaints about grammar that has no effect on the entertainment value of the story? I'll be surprised to see anything useful from either of you. I doubt you have the guts to bare your writing skills to us. And your refusal to get into the story reveals you are both quitters. Please do the author a favor and never click on another of this author's works. We've heard plenty from people like you, and none of it is good."
It wasn't even his story. My feedback was critical, but it was very specific, not, "This story sucks. You suck. Go die now." He wanted something more entertaining so...
"<aggressive wackadoo>, pull yourself together, man. That's a lot of mess right there. It's like the drunk, angry rambling of a middle school-aged boy filled to the brim with righteous indignation because he was forced to accept crinkle fries instead of tater tots at lunch, except it didn't happen to him but someone he fangirls over and makes even less sense -- unless you're also <author name here> which would be an absurd and grim plot twist. I'm acquainted with pre-schoolers with better emotional regulation and who, except in extreme cases of didn't take a nap, don't verbally assault unsuspecting passerby.
Armchair Analysis Anonymous, this applies to you too. Use all the words you want to tell other readers their opinions are wrong. Each one of them makes you look foolish."
I responded to the author via feedback and admittedly had a little fun at his expense too. He deleted my responses (I'm not dumb, I half expected it from the narrow-minded and humorless jerk) and I wouldn't have cared, except he also deleted both critical feedbacks (he overlooked a third agreeing with the points the other person and I made), left up the comments that attacked me and the other commenter by name, and he claimed it was to keep the feedback section inducive to enjoyment by the readers. >Insert exaggerated open-mouth winky face with the thumb to finger okay sign.< I certainly did not enjoy... most of whatever all that was. And I can't imagine those aggressive and divisive comments leave very many people feeling comfortable providing feedback to this guy in the future when he condones such blatant assholery against them.
All this to ask what the fuck is up with creepy, thin-skinned authors who can't handle honest feedback on stories they post to a public pornography website with feedback enabled and the hyper-aggressive commenters that go after other commenters? I get people are protective of their work and can be sensitive about anything that's not praise, but being vulnerable is a choice you make when you publicly post and allow feedback. A brief look into the really aggressive commenter's profile makes him look a circlejerking fanboy, but even that doesn't account for his behavior. These guys are more delicate than a virgin's asshole and a lot less fun.
I've been on the internet, so no welcomes necessary. I know there are wackjobs everywhere, it can suck sometimes, and attempts at interaction can go sideways for no good reason, but I try to be mindful. I've read over in the authors forum section about their thoughts on reader feedback and scoring. I leave less critical comments, glowing praise too, with detail, and give four and five stars, but this thing has totally put me off. At first I was annoyed but tried to make it amusing and not so negative. Then I just got mad. If I continue reading on this site, I'm probably going back to anonymous, and definitely will make no attempt at interaction, but as of right now I feel totally repulsed by the experience so far. Seriously, who the fuck attacks the readership and condones those doing the same?!
This is... a lot. To anyone who actually reads this, you're a saint. I'm realistic though and not holding my breath.
My feedback was almost verbatim, "I found the first two sentences awkward and distracting. I don't think they work well.
'I always thought, since I was little, that good was the first word of a candy package.' Which is it? Is that something you've always thought or only since you were little? They aren't the same thing, and if they were, stating both would be redundant.
'I never thought it might apply to my next-door neighbor, Veronica.' It looks like you're trying for smooth and clever, but those two statements together are clunky and awkward, so much so that I couldn't get past the second paragraph."
Because, you know, sometimes you get a a taste of an author's writing and if you find it to be clunky and awkward you're put off on reading a whole piece if you think you have more of that to look forward to. Whether my feedback is considered positive or negative by the author, I do attempt to make the tone neutral and not aggressively insulting. It's not like I wrote, "Here's one star, douche bag." I put thought into it. I don't even think I rated it at that time.
"Hi Adverbly,
I see you're new to Literotica. Thank you for your comment on my story "The Girl Next Door." The candy is Good and Plenty. I've been told that my writing has improved over the last few years but alas, clearly not enough to meet your standards. You did the right thing to stop reading, although had you overridden your good sense and continued, you might have ended up enjoying the story. I'd like to imagine it to be so. I guess we'll never know. Look, take some Xanax and lighten up a bit, why don't you? Yours, <author name>"
I don't care if authors respond to feedback. It's certainly not expected, but I can honestly say my remarks were made in good faith that I was saying something potentially helpful (if the author so chooses. Again, no great expectations from me.) His whole message was self-serving and dripping with false humility. He completely ignored my very specific points in favor of mansplaining a different point to me and tried to invalidate my opinion because he's been writing on the site longer than the age of my profile. Telling someone to lighten up because they don't share the same opinion as you goes over as smoothly as telling someone to calm down. Who is going to go out of their way to read stories by an author who goes out of his way to insult them?
I revisited the feedback section to see if anyone else had feedback similar to mine in case I was off the mark. Normally I would potentially give the story a second chance.
"aggressive wackadoo
A most delightful tale. Five stars. Note to adverbly: You are the grammatical genius. Check the punctuation and work it out. Too bad you suffer from anal-cranial inversion. You missed a great story. It's your loss."
I responded almost verbatim with, "I'm not looking for praise, but thank you. You are too kind. Your observation was quite alarming. I hope you'll be glad to know I examined my parts, and they are properly verted. Phew!"
"anonymous wackadoo
Adverbly obviously didn't enjoy growing up. This is a great story...I for one never worry about descriptions of situations or people. It's much more fun and satisfying to find out on your own. This is a story....It's too bad...he missed a great story and probably a lot of fun in his personal life, by letting some talk (or verbiage) get in the way."
That's just outright stupid.
I thought the aggressive wackadoo's comment toward me was unnecessary and a little unhinged, but I responded humorously and borderline kindly in an effort to be like, "Keep it cool, dude," but he did not like that and showed me what unhinged really looks like.
"aggressive wackadoo
Note to both adverbly and dou1t2 - There are those that write to entertain us and those that can produce nothing but criticism. Why don't you try contributing something more entertaining than complaints about grammar that has no effect on the entertainment value of the story? I'll be surprised to see anything useful from either of you. I doubt you have the guts to bare your writing skills to us. And your refusal to get into the story reveals you are both quitters. Please do the author a favor and never click on another of this author's works. We've heard plenty from people like you, and none of it is good."
It wasn't even his story. My feedback was critical, but it was very specific, not, "This story sucks. You suck. Go die now." He wanted something more entertaining so...
"<aggressive wackadoo>, pull yourself together, man. That's a lot of mess right there. It's like the drunk, angry rambling of a middle school-aged boy filled to the brim with righteous indignation because he was forced to accept crinkle fries instead of tater tots at lunch, except it didn't happen to him but someone he fangirls over and makes even less sense -- unless you're also <author name here> which would be an absurd and grim plot twist. I'm acquainted with pre-schoolers with better emotional regulation and who, except in extreme cases of didn't take a nap, don't verbally assault unsuspecting passerby.
Armchair Analysis Anonymous, this applies to you too. Use all the words you want to tell other readers their opinions are wrong. Each one of them makes you look foolish."
I responded to the author via feedback and admittedly had a little fun at his expense too. He deleted my responses (I'm not dumb, I half expected it from the narrow-minded and humorless jerk) and I wouldn't have cared, except he also deleted both critical feedbacks (he overlooked a third agreeing with the points the other person and I made), left up the comments that attacked me and the other commenter by name, and he claimed it was to keep the feedback section inducive to enjoyment by the readers. >Insert exaggerated open-mouth winky face with the thumb to finger okay sign.< I certainly did not enjoy... most of whatever all that was. And I can't imagine those aggressive and divisive comments leave very many people feeling comfortable providing feedback to this guy in the future when he condones such blatant assholery against them.
All this to ask what the fuck is up with creepy, thin-skinned authors who can't handle honest feedback on stories they post to a public pornography website with feedback enabled and the hyper-aggressive commenters that go after other commenters? I get people are protective of their work and can be sensitive about anything that's not praise, but being vulnerable is a choice you make when you publicly post and allow feedback. A brief look into the really aggressive commenter's profile makes him look a circlejerking fanboy, but even that doesn't account for his behavior. These guys are more delicate than a virgin's asshole and a lot less fun.
I've been on the internet, so no welcomes necessary. I know there are wackjobs everywhere, it can suck sometimes, and attempts at interaction can go sideways for no good reason, but I try to be mindful. I've read over in the authors forum section about their thoughts on reader feedback and scoring. I leave less critical comments, glowing praise too, with detail, and give four and five stars, but this thing has totally put me off. At first I was annoyed but tried to make it amusing and not so negative. Then I just got mad. If I continue reading on this site, I'm probably going back to anonymous, and definitely will make no attempt at interaction, but as of right now I feel totally repulsed by the experience so far. Seriously, who the fuck attacks the readership and condones those doing the same?!
This is... a lot. To anyone who actually reads this, you're a saint. I'm realistic though and not holding my breath.
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