What's Up WIth Bob?

[AlwaysHungry]

If you guys were to stop and think for a moment, you would realize that the performance of the G-men has been absolutely pathetic. Over a year of this campaign, and this is the best they could come up with? You thought that Mueller was going to nullify the votes of all those unwashed proletarians who don't know how to properly take their cues from CNN. They failed, big time. Compare their performance to the FBI in its prime, when they were going after Martin Luther King. They did the job on him very successfully, and it was much more challenging because King was an appealing and sympathetic figure, not a buffoon like Trump. The secret police agencies have grown flabby.

 

[Hypoxia]

If you guys were to stop and think for a moment, you would realize that the performance of the G-men has been absolutely pathetic. Over a year of this campaign, and this is the best they could come up with?

Congressional and special prosecutorial investigations into Watergate took a few years. I wasn't aware that Mueller had a deadline to meet. Did you read that online somewhere?

Compare their performance to the FBI in its prime, when they were going after Martin Luther King. They did the job on him very successfully, and it was much more challenging because King was an appealing and sympathetic figure, not a buffoon like Trump.

I wasn't aware that Dr King was indicted on anything via FBI action. By "FBI in its prime" do you mean when J. Edgar had files on everybody in power, and presidents feared him? Is that the FBI you want now?

 

[jaF0]

Compare their performance to the FBI in its prime, when they were going after Martin Luther King. They did the job on him very successfully,

I wasn't aware that Dr King was indicted on anything via FBI action.

Well, they did hire Jimmy Earl and successfully CIA'd the target.

So, if they could do 'Rump ....

 

[Hypoxia]

Did the Kremlin Give Money to the National Rifle Association to Help Trump?

A report by McClatchy revealed that the FBI is looking into whether a Russian banker with Kremlin ties funneled money through the NRA during the 2016 election.

Even as the NRA has attacked the American news media with incendiary videos stoking hostility, the news media has been reporting on apparent links between the NRA and the Kremlin — most recently revealing a Federal Bureau of Investigation probe into whether a Kremlin-linked banker used the gun lobby organization to help the Trump campaign.

If true, NRA is now owned by Kremlin. NRA enables mass killings in USA. Senior Russian and USA officials have declared Russia is waging war on USA. Russia. Is. Waging. War. On. USA. Connect the fucking dots. Every school shooting is a proxy act of war. NRA is a treasonous organization. Lock-em up.

 

[jaF0]

^^ I've long held that the NRA is a subversive group bent on anarchy.

 

[JackLuis]

‘Follow the money’: Ex-US Attorney reveals how Mueller’s Russia indictments now lead to Trump’s tax returns

Speaking with New Day host Victor Blackwell, ex-prosecutor Michael Moore, who served as a U.S. Attorney in Georgia, stated upfront the “key” to everything is money.

“The key is we need to follow the money, follow the money, follow the money,” Moore explained. ‘I think at some point we’ll find out — that we look back and see that there was a reason that Russia wanted to have Trump elected president. I think that’s one of the reasons we don’t have his tax returns, he’s been holding that very tightly.”

“I think that [former Director of National Intelligence James] Clapper is right, probably that Mueller has that information and knows there’s a money trail that leads back from Russia to some folks very high up in the Trump administration,” he continued.

“It’s likely that there are other things to drop,” Moore stated. “It’s not a complete story of the investigation. It only produces the evidence that is needed to charge these defendants with the crimes.”

Good advice. Russia-NRA-Trumpy?

 

[JackLuis]

Reactions to Russian indictments in 2016 US election meddling probe

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– House Speaker Paul Ryan in a statement

“For all those who have been asking ‘where is the evidence of a crime?’ – this is it. This is the criminal conspiracy. This is what President Trump and his allies have repeatedly called a ‘hoax’ and ‘fake news.’ Today’s indictment shows precisely how the Russians worked to help the Trump campaign, in startling and extensive detail.”

Not the only conspiracy Pauly boy!

– House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi in a statement

“While it does not include an allegation that any U.S. persons conspired wittingly with the Russian actors, the indictment leaves open the vital question of whether Americans, including any associated with the Trump campaign, knowingly played a role in Russia’s active measures campaign.”

Well except for the guy that plead guilty to helping the Russians launder their money!

– Independent Senator Bernie Sanders in a statement

“What we learned was astonishing. We learned that the Russian were also organizing for Bernie Sanders. We learned that in late November 2016 they then turned their efforts to be against President Trump, that their goal was to sow discord and chaos, not to promote a certain candidate, and that no Americans were involved in this plot … Democrats deceived this country and they were caught today.”

 

[AlwaysHungry]

Well, they did hire Jimmy Earl and successfully CIA'd the target.

So, if they could do 'Rump ....

They also bugged Dr King's hotel rooms, made recordings that suggested that he was having extramarital affairs, and sent them to King's wife. Their hope was that they could drive him to suicide. When that didn't work, they went to Plan B.

 

[AlwaysHungry]

By "FBI in its prime" do you mean when J. Edgar had files on everybody in power, and presidents feared him? Is that the FBI you want now?

Yes, and no. I don't want it, but it's pretty much what we have now, and you are cheering it on.

 

[Hypoxia]

Yes, and no. I don't want it, but it's pretty much what we have now, and you are cheering it on.

How many directors has FBI had since Tromp took office? Which of those directors has files threatening ruin of political scumbags? If Comey had files on Hillary, why did he only issue hints? And if he had files on Tromp, why not release them to destroy Cadet Bone-Spur?

Them who don't like the FBI needn't sit back and take it. The Gup Congress can end it. Just abolish the FBI, zap! Or do you think the FBI has files on every member of Congress and dictates their actions? If so, why are Gup congresscritteers being so aggressive? Either the Deep State rules, or it doesn't. Can't have it both ways,

 

[JackLuis]

Rick Gates will testify against former boss Paul Manafort and enter guilty plea: report

WASHINGTON — A former top aide to Donald Trump's presidential campaign will plead guilty to fraud-related charges within days �� and has made it clear to prosecutors that he would testify against Paul Manafort, the lawyer-lobbyist who once managed the campaign.

The change of heart by Trump's former deputy campaign manager, Rick Gates, who had pleaded not guilty after being indicted in October on charges similar to those against Manafort, was described in interviews by people familiar with the case.

"Rick Gates is going to change his plea to guilty," said a person with direct knowledge of the development, adding that the revised plea will be presented in federal court in Washington "within the next few days."

Obama ethics czar: Gates guilty plea shows Mueller’s flipping Trump allies ‘like a short order cook’

“Norm, what do you make of the fact that Mueller has been able to flip three people?” asked anchor Ana Cabrera, meaning former national security adviser Mike Flynn, campaign aide George Papadopoulos and now Gates.

“He’s flipping them like a short order cook, Ana,” said Eisen gleefully. “And what I make of it is this was a campaign led by a candidate who evinced contempt for the rule of law and for ethics.”

How much longer before Manafort gives in and fingers Trumpinski?

 

[Hypoxia]

How much longer before Manafort gives in and fingers Trumpinski?

That depends on what he fears more: a nice safe federal prison for some years if he keeps mum, or the tender mercies of Russian mafiyas unhappy that he spills secrets? It's an existential quandary.

 

[JackLuis]

Ex-Watergate prosecutor lays out Mueller’s Trump-Russia case: ‘The quid-pro-quo was the dropping of sanctions’

Former Watergate prosecutor Nick Ackerman analyzed the direction of special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation in the wake of this week’s bombshell reports on the White House. Ackerman was interviewed during “All In with Chris Hayes” on Wednesday.

“What we’re dealing with here is a conspiracy to break in to the Democratic National Committee, steal emails, and use those emails to help Trump get elected,” Ackerman suggested. “And the quid-pro-quo for that was the dropping of sanctions.”

“We should say, there is reporting indicating that was the order that was sent sort of top-down on day one, was ‘we want to get rid of the sanctions’ and there was a rebellion in the state department,” Hayes interjected.

“If you go to the other end of the conspiracy, what you have is the June 9th meeting, where you’ve got the email to Don, Jr stating that they’re going to bring all of this dirt on Hillary Clinton up to New York to this meeting from Russia, the dirt is the equivalent of the e-mails,” Ackerman continued. “So all of these emails come up to New York, they realize it’s too hot to handle, the campaign…”

High-ranking GOP congressman blasts Trump for failing to enact Russia sanctions: ‘A price must be paid’

The Republican chairman of the House Armed Services Committee on Thursday slammed President Donald Trump for failing to enact sanctions on Russia over their electoral interference.

Chairman Mac Thornberry (R-TX) told the Daily Beast that he agrees with U.S. Cyber Command and NSA chief Mike Rogers — that Trump has communicated there is “little price to pay” for the Kremlin’s interference in the 2016 elections and reported meddling in the 2018 midterms that’s already underway.

“An aggressor will always push forward and do more until he meets resistance,” Thornberry told the Beast. “There has to be a price to be paid.”

“They’re going to keep doing things until there’s a price to be paid,” the chairman continued. “I am very much on the side of calling them out and exposing what they’re doing.”

Bob is getting closer to treasonist Trump. Mah hahaha!

 

[AlwaysHungry]

It's ironic that Trump is turning out to be the bleeding heart liberal, being attacked from the extreme right (Hillary issued a similar rant about the evil Russians.) Trump is actually doing some very bad things in Syria, but all the right-wing wackos in both parties fully support those bad things. Making peace with Russia would actually be a good thing, but it doesn't look like Trump is likely to do it.

Meanwhile, there is still not an ounce of evidence that the Russian government meddled in our elections. There are allegations by Mueller (he knows there will never be a trial, and therefore he will not be called upon to provide evidence) that 13 private citizens spent "over $100,000", before and after the election, to support and oppose Trump (yes, they did both.) Is that the best conspiracy theory you guys can come up with? Compare that to Victoria Nuland's proclamation that the US spent $5 Billion to overthrow the elected government in Ukraine. That's a ratio of 50,000 to one. If the Russians are that ineffectual in manipulating our elections, why is everyone peeing in their pants over the allegations? More importantly, why can't everyone find something more productive to do, after wasting 14 fucking months on this nonsense?

 

[JackLuis]

It's ironic that Trump is turning out to be the bleeding heart liberal, - -
If the Russians are that ineffectual in manipulating our elections, why is everyone peeing in their pants over the allegations? More importantly, why can't everyone find something more productive to do, after wasting 14 fucking months on this nonsense?

The Facts that the Russians fucked with us on the election is pretty well known. What really matters is, can we say that the Russians caused significant portions of the electorate to say, "Hillary, Oh Hell, No!" for what ever reasons, NAFTA, stupid shit she said, who knows?

So we can blame the Russkis for Donald the Demented.
Nobody likes then anyway.
How many countries has America fucked with over the last century? More than some.

 

[AlwaysHungry]

The Facts that the Russians fucked with us on the election is pretty well known.

There are no "facts" that are "pretty well known." What there is in reality is one of the most heavy-handed (and simple minded) propaganda campaigns since the mythical "Weapons of Mass Destruction" in Iraq. Many of my idiot countrymen will believe anything that appears in the Washington Post, no matter how many times the lies are exposed. It's the present day equivalent of Pravda (ironically enough.)

Of course, it won't be like going to war with Iraq. Russia is not helpless.

 

[JackLuis]

Mueller’s focus on WikiLeaks shows he’s ‘laid the foundation’ for Trump collusion case: Ex-White House lawyer

Andrew Wright, who served for two years as Barack Obama’s associate counsel, told Business Insider that line of questioning is a bad sign for the president.

“The one specious thing about Trump’s lawyers’ strategy is that they’re saying there’s no substantive focus on Trump when it comes to the collusion inquiry, that this is all about obstruction of justice, and that Mueller already has everything he needs from other witnesses and documents for the obstruction case,” Wright said, referring to reported attempts by Trump’s attorneys to shield their client from sitting for an interview with the special counsel.

“Setting the obstruction case aside, what has happened over the last couple of weeks is that Mueller laid the foundation [for a collusion case] by showing the crimes of the Russians, in at least some form,” Wright continued. “And now we’re seeing his focus on Trump about the hacked emails. At this point, it’s a matter of proving whether Americans were participants in this conspiracy to commit these crimes, and whether they aided or abetted these acts.”

Maybe Bob can make unwitting conspirator charges stick because Trump was too dumb to know he was breaking the law?

I read he pissed off Jeffy B. again and Jeff B. was found dinning with The Opposition in the DOJ.

And Donny has pissed off GOP Hardliners by not imposing the legal sanctions that Congress passed. :caning:

I wonder sometimes if Bob and the League of Inquisitors doesn't leak stuff to see how Donny responds and then gets him to lie again! Ahahahaha !

 

[phrodeau]

Charges against Rick Gates have been dropped. I wonder what he had to say.

 

[JackLuis]

Charges against Rick Gates have been dropped. I wonder what he had to say.

Very interesting, I want to read the book they will write about this investigation that they will writein20 years. "The Reptilian Revolution : and how it failed"

 

[JackLuis]

Ex-CIA analyst nails Nunberg for ‘giving the middle finger’ to Mueller by refusing to testify before grand jury

Former intelligence official Phil Mudd on Monday joked that ex-Trump campaign aide Sam Nunberg’s bizarre media spectacle was akin to flipping the bird to the special counsel.

“If [Nunberg] says he’s not gonna speak, that’s basically raising a middle finger to the teacher in the classroom,” Mudd mused. “He’s gonna get some detention — that is, the director’s gonna go to a judge if he doesn’t show up to the grand jury.”

The former CIA counterintelligence director said he nevertheless believes Nunberg may do the right.

“I think this guy’s gonna look in the mirror and say whoa, hold on a second,” Mudd concluded.

If Donald has all these so called Aides, why does he fuck up sooooo Much?

 

[JackLuis]

Mueller has evidence secret Trump transition meeting was a backchannel to Russia — contradicting adviser’s testimony: report

A witness cooperating with special counsel Robert Mueller has revealed that a meeting just before President Donald Trump’s inauguration in the Seychelles was intended to set up a backchannel between his administration and Russia — contrary to testimony given to congressional investigators.

The Washington Post reported Wednesday that businessman George Nader told Mueller’s team the January 2017 meeting he attended on the Indian ocean island between a Russian official and Erik Prince, the founder of weapons manufacturer Blackwater, was meant to establish unofficial communications between the two countries. When testifying before the House Intelligence Committee, Prince characterized the meeting as a chance encounter.

Someone oil a rope!

 

[jaF0]

Old black water, keep on rollin'
Mississippi moon, won't you keep on shinin' on me
Yeah, keep on shinin' your light
Gonna make everything, pretty mama
Gonna make everything all right
And I ain't got no worries
'Cause I ain't in no hurry at all

-- The Doobie Brothers

 

[JackLuis]

Former Whitewater prosecutor: Mueller has Trump’s tax returns

On MSNBC’s Hardball on Tuesday, two panelists told host Chris Matthews that special counsel Robert Mueller likely has already obtained President Donald Trump’s tax returns.

During the 2016 campaign, Trump was the only modern presidential nominee to not release his tax returns to the public.

“What’s Trump most worried about, the business end, obstruction end or the collusion piece?” Matthews asked. “Where is he most worried?”

“The financials,” Atlantic correspondent Natasha Bertrand replied. “Because of the tax returns he’s still trying to hide”

“I think Mueller probably has them,” predicted Kim Wehle, a former Assistant U.S. Attorney and Associate Independent Counsel during Whitewater investigation.”

“I think he has them, but he doesn’t want them publicly released, and there’s a reason for that,” Bertrand added.

“Why?” Matthews asked. “Because he’s not rich?”

Because he's owned by the Russian Mob!

 

[AlwaysHungry]

Well, this thread has been going on for almost 8 months now, and thanks to the stubborn idiocy of the DNC, it looks like it could continue until the latter part of 2024.

 

[JackLuis]

Well, this thread has been going on for almost 8 months now, and thanks to the stubborn idiocy of the DNC, it looks like it could continue until the latter part of 2024.

I really think Bob is holding off until September to give the Rethuglicans a nut punch just before the elections. Look for subpoenas in April and more grand jury stuff, with indictments in September, maybe?