What should my punishment be?

Wait.

Some of us love the SAM's. How I do love a disobedient little girl. As long as it is fun disobedient and not the other kind. If I find it cute and can laugh at it then it is joyous to me. If it is the bad kind then she can pack.

I probably should read this first but it's five pages and I'm horny.
 
Etoile said:
...I'm not sure that I'd be a great mentor if you're looking for one, but I'd be willing to chat with you if you'd like to talk sometime.

It's not a secret that this poster has absolutely no regard for me.

That being said, Liana, you could not do much better than etoile as someone to chat with and learn from. There are few here who know as much or understand as much about submission as she does.

(I've always believed in giving credit where it is due, regardless of personal opinions.)
 
A Desert Rose said:
That being said, Liana, you could not do much better than etoile as someone to chat with and learn from. There are few here who know as much or understand as much about submission as she does.
*falls off chair*

Thank you, ADR. I could not have asked for a more valuable compliment, and I truly appreciate it. That means a lot to me and I will remember it.
 
What crawled up the board's collective ass???

This thread seems to have gone on a hell of a long time, and I'm probably not going to say anything that hasn't been said in some fashion or another, but I feel the need to say it anyway. This probably isn't going to make me very popular here, but it seems to me a lot of you are getting angry with Liana for things that you are all coming up with rather than what she's done. She posted here looking for help. Yes, she should have thought of her punishment herself, but she honestly did not think her dom would mind. Once it was pointed out to her that he probably didn't mean for her to use other people as a resource, she acknoledged that was a possibility and stopped asking for advice until she talked to her dom. When he told her that she was not allowed to seek help, she apologized to him and she did NOT ask for any further help regarding thinking of an appropriate punishment. She expressed the fact that she was nervous and downright scared about what was going to happen but that does NOT necessarily mean she was begging for attention or or looking for someone to tell her that what she did was ok. Since when is it such a horrible thing to admit when you're scared about something? She wasn't even trying to say she didn't deserve it! And while she has said many things about what she's done wrong, I never got the impression that she was hoping for anyone to contradict her. It seemed to me that she was trying to honestly admit to her faults. As for apologies she DID apologize profusely and since then has continued to apologize and do what seems to be her best to make up for any bad behavior she exhibited, both to her dom and to this forum. Yet some of you are still harassing her about how horrible she is and about how she should give up trying to be a sub. I cannot understand advising her to just give up when she's only been trying for six weeks as it is. She's new. Her newness (not her age - although she is not the person who pointed out her youth in the first place) does help explain why she's making so many mistakes, although it certainly isn't an excuse. I've been reading this forum on and off for quite a long time and I had never before gotten the impression that the people here would rather berate someone rather than try to direct them to a better path, especially after that someone profusely and seemingly sincerely apologized. I, personally, am not submissive or dominant and I have never participated in the lifestyle, but I have always loved this board because BDSM does interest me even if I'm not sure I want to practice it. I've always been impressed by how open-minded and intelligent everyone is here, and reading this thread and the collective bitch-fest it contains has surprised and disappointed me. With that said...

Liana, it's good that you seem to be learning from (or at least trying to learn from) your mistakes. While asking the board to help you think of a punishment your dom told you to think of yourself was a bad idea, coming here for other kinds of advice is definitely a wonderful idea, especially as you're so new. The suggestion to ask another, more experienced submissive to be your mentor also sounded like a marvelous idea. Despite what an observer would think from reading this thread, the people in this forum are very good at giving advice.

Good luck.
 
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