What should be done?

REDWAVE

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Burning questions of the anti-war movement


The objective conditions for socialist revolution in the U.S., and thus worldwide socialist revolution, are better now than they have been any time since the late 1960's. The global economic crisis, the illegitimacy of the Bush regime, the imminent war with Iraq, and the blatant class warfare in favor of the rich and against the working class and the poor, have engendered a mass protest movement in opposition. Now, as it prepares to invade Iraq, the Bush regime is gearing up for massive police state repression of the anti-war movement, and protest generally. Both DC and NYC have been made into armed camps, occupied by the military, ostensibly to protect the public from "terrorists," but really to intimidate and, if need be, crush popular dissent.

How is the anti-war movement to respond to this ominous development? So far, the anti-war movement has been led mainly by ANSWER, a front group formed by the Workers World Party (WWP), led by Larry Holmes. The WWP is ostensibly revolutionary, but in fact is centrist at best. It is reformist in deeds, allowing Democratic politicians (such as Barbara Lee) on its speakers' platforms, and avoiding any call for a revolutionary program. Other groupings, to the right of ANSWER, are also involved.

So far, the anti-war movement has progressed only slightly beyond the initial phase of purely peaceful, legal demonstrations. Civil disobedience actions, most of them small, have been carried out. The corporate media has blacked news of them out, and they have been reported only on alternative sources such as the IMC (Independent Media Center) network.

Once the onslaught against the anti-war movement begins in earnest, probably not long after the attack on Iraq, such limited tactics as have been employed so far will no longer suffice. It will become necessary to take the movement to the next level, that of armed self-defense against police state terror and repression. The reformist misleaders currently heading the anti-war movement will never do that, as they are fundamentally loyal to the capitalist state. Thus, it will become necessary for revolutionary leadership to come to the fore as quickly as possible.

Only then will the related tasks of forging the revolutionary vanguard party, and building a truly revolutionary mass movement, be posed concretely.


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REDWAVE said:


Once the onslaught against the anti-war movement begins in earnest, probably not long after the attack on Iraq, such limited tactics as have been employed so far will no longer suffice. It will become necessary to take the movement to the next level, that of armed self-defense against police state terror and repression. The reformist misleaders currently heading the anti-war movement will never do that, as they are fundamentally loyal to the capitalist state. Thus, it will become necessary for revolutionary leadership to come to the fore as quickly as possible.

Only then will the related tasks of forging the revolutionary vanguard party, and building a truly revolutionary mass movement, be posed concretely.


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Assuming your theory is correct...I expect the FBI to be knocking your door down as it seems you are advocating violence against the government.

They're gonna love you in prison....;)
 
Au contraire!

Where do I say anything like that? I'm certainly not advocating violence against the government. For one thing, the legitimate government, headed by Albert Gore, the lawfully elected President, has not been allowed to take office. Also, the U.S. government would never violate the Constitutional rights of protesters by attacking them for engaging in peaceful, legal demonstrations, right? As long as the government acts properly and lawfully, there will be no need or justification for the protesters to engage in self-defense.

Of course, I was speaking purely abstractly and hypothetically.
:D
 
Re: Au contraire!

REDWAVE said:
Where do I say anything like that? I'm certainly not advocating violence against the government. For one thing, the legitimate government, headed by Albert Gore, the lawfully elected President, has not been allowed to take office. Also, the U.S. government would never violate the Constitutional rights of protesters by attacking them for engaging in peaceful, legal demonstrations, right? As long as the government acts properly and lawfully, there will be no need or justification for the protesters to engage in self-defense.

Of course, I was speaking purely abstractly and hypothetically.
:D

Well hypothetically, an armed group of protesters bearing weapons would resemble a mob. In it's most abstract form mind you.

Still can't accept the fact that Gore lost? :D
 
Well, I must be running off to work now...

You know, being a slave to my masters and all that....:rolleyes:
 
Totally Sociopathic behavior....

Take your meds, watch the history channel, stay home.
 
Re: Au contraire!

REDWAVE said:
For one thing, the legitimate government, headed by Albert Gore, the lawfully elected President, has not been allowed to take office.

Lawfully elected? You better dig around for that tattered copy of the Constitution you've been hiding in the trunk of your car and read it again. The EC cast it's vote and it wasn't for Gore...

Some fucking lawyer you make...
 
If you run the numbers, Fucktard, about .000075% of the world's population is in an uproar over this...
 
SINthysist said:
If you run the numbers, Fucktard, about .000075% of the world's population is in an uproar over this...

So, if nobody was jumping off the end of the pier, I suppose you'd be right there with them?
 
Political strikes

It is also necessary for the anti-war movement to call for massive civil disobedience and political strikes against the war, and to organize such actions whenever possible.
 
Re: Political strikes

REDWAVE said:
It is also necessary for the anti-war movement to call for massive civil disobedience and political strikes against the war, and to organize such actions whenever possible.

How does .00075% create "massive civil disobedience", and "political strikes"?
I only use Synthysist's numbers because you chose not to dispute them....:D

BTW...I'm back from my hard day serving my "masters" RED...

What did you do that contributed to the general well being of society today?:rolleyes:
 
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