What is this thing about Mormon underwear?

[Pure]

however, ridicule and even persecution, by a strange twist strengthen some Christian groups and help increase membership; it's an expectation and requirement of walking in Christ's footsteps: 'Blessed are you when others revile you, iirc.' on the plus side is the assurance of exclusively being the Chosen Ones to 'the kingdom of heaven,' be it Mormon-, Catholic-style* or whatever.

*see the Pope's latest pronouncements about the possibly fatal defects of other, esp. Protestant forms of Christianity.

 

[cloudy]

The more I think about this, the angrier it makes me.

Many of you are ridiculing them for their faith. I really want to know just how you think this is any different from any other form of bias. Oh, it's not about skin color here, but it's just as wrong, and just as hateful.

Do I agree with what they preach? Absolutely not, but they have the right to their faith, just like I have the right to mine.

Those of you having so much fun at their expense would be horrified if someone expressed the same sentiments in regards to someone's race. It's no different, and you ought to be ashamed of yourselves.

As a whole, the Mormons are good, law-abiding people. A few sects that practice polygamy do not a faith make. And if you ever bothered to research it, you'd find that those sects have been tossed out of the LDS church.

Go back to your fun at other's expense.

 

[Recidiva]

however, ridicule and even persecution, by a strange twist strengthen some Christian groups and help increase membership; it's an expectation and requirement of walking in Christ's footsteps: 'Blessed are you when others revile you, iirc.' on the plus side is the assurance of exclusively being the Chosen Ones to 'the kingdom of heaven,' be it Mormon-, Catholic-style* or whatever.

*see the Pope's latest pronouncements about the possibly fatal defects of other, esp. Protestant forms of Christianity.

It's not a strange twist, it's a common twist.

Belonging to a religion makes you competitive with other religions who are reaching for "market share."

I spent time with the Church of Scientology and the mainstream crap I saw about them while I was inside (Time Magazine does an article about how horrible these people are - people I know, people whose kids I know...)

From religions that are more "popular", mocking other religions is standard. Even completely making shit up is pretty standard.

I've been accused of believing in stuff as a Scientologist that I've never even heard of. And of course any attempt for me to clarify just means it's a cover up.

 

[Pure]

note to cloudy,

Cl As a whole, the Mormons are good, law-abiding people.

That's certainly been my experience with the ones I've met; solid, hardworking, family oriented, and emphasizing community and family self sufficiency (emergency food supplies, etc.).

 

[galaxygoddess]

I was neighbors with some "mormons" and they had the craziest beliefs I ever saw. I thought "surely these people have to be strange to their own kind" and then I met a few more and realised they were actually quite tamer than others. I never heard of them having a particular kind of undergarment though o.0;;

 

[cloudy]

I was neighbors with some "morons"

Wow. Way to be tolerant.

 

[galaxygoddess]

Wow. Way to be tolerant.

GAH! I left out a M! I promise!

I'm just a bad typer without my precious spell check ;.;

 

[Pure]

i hope some posters will stop with the

silly word games regarding "mormons" and "morons.' it incumbent on any of us to first look at what might be "moronic" about some of our own favored religious tenets.

 

[Recidiva]

GAH! I left out a M! I promise!

I'm just a bad typer without my precious spell check ;.;

I'd buy that 'cept it was in "quotation marks"

 

[galaxygoddess]

silly word games regarding "mormons" and "morons.' it incumbent on any of us to first look at what might be "moronic" about some of our own favored religious tenets.

No seriously ><I wasn't paying attention!

Forgive me

 

[galaxygoddess]

I'd buy that 'cept it was in "quotation marks"

I even went back and corrected it


I put it in quotation marks because everything they did they would reply "because we're mormons". Everything, no matter how kooky, if we asked them why they did this or that "because we're mormons".

I asked the girl "why are you trying to connect your eyebrows?" (she was pencilling the center in so she had a unibrow) and she replied "Because we're mormons" and I thought "are these people insane?". But the whole family did it.

 

[Recidiva]

I even went back and corrected it

Okay, it behooves us both to be gracious here

 

[Pure]

glad you mended things, galaxy:


the word slip occurred with another poster yesterday. were i a moderator here in AH i would have deleted the insult.

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galaxy: I asked the girl "why are you trying to connect your eyebrows?" (she was pencilling the center in so she had a unibrow) and she replied "Because we're mormons" and I thought "are these people insane?".

i know of a group that cut off the foreskins of the baby boys. go figure!

 

[cloudy]

While most realize that Mormons all do a year of missionary work, most don't realize just what that entails, for some.

Sure, there are those that do theirs in the States, or in England, but many do their year in third world countries. They don't just preach, they spend their time doing down-and-dirty work, like digging wells, building irrigation systems, building schools, and other community service. They go to places that most will not: Papua New Guinea, Paraquay, Peru, Guatemala, Honduras, Bolivia, Romania, South Africa, Uganda, Zimbabwe, Nigeria, El Salvador - and many more. Many of them war-torn, and dangerous areas.

Who here, besides cantdog, has ever done that type of thing?

I'll wait....

 

[jomar]

It's for modesty.

My sister's a Mormon. I don't agree with their religion, not even a little bit, but they're mostly very nice people.

Mormons. Hmm. Interesting that modesty and polygamy are compatible.

 

[cloudy]

Mormons. Hmm. Interesting that modesty and polygamy are compatible.

C'mon, did you not read anything else I said?

The sects that practice polygamy are NOT part of the LDS church. Please...read and comprehend.

 

[Recidiva]

While most realize that Mormons all do a year of missionary work, most don't realize just what that entails, for some.

Sure, there are those that do theirs in the States, or in England, but many do their year in third world countries. They don't just preach, they spend their time doing down-and-dirty work, like digging wells, building irrigation systems, building schools, and other community service. They go to places that most will not: Papua New Guinea, Paraquay, Peru, Guatemala, Honduras, Bolivia, Romania, South Africa, Uganda, Zimbabwe, Nigeria, El Salvador - and many more. Many of them war-torn, and dangerous areas.

Who here, besides cantdog, has ever done that type of thing?

I'll wait....

There's a Mormon church close to here and my daughter went to school with a lot of them, hung out a lot of their events.

One of my favorite images is when a bunch of kids here went on Mission to New Orleans after "Katrina." The sense of humor, generosity and joy were infectious and epitomized by one kid who had on a T-shirt from "Ace Ventura" saying "FINE, let's do everything YOU want to do." While they helped clean up debris.

 

[cloudy]

There's a Mormon church close to here and my daughter went to school with a lot of them, hung out a lot of their events.

One of my favorite images is when a bunch of kids here went on Mission to New Orleans after "Katrina." The sense of humor, generosity and joy were infectious and epitomized by one kid who had on a T-shirt from "Ace Ventura" saying "FINE, let's do everything YOU want to do." While they helped clean up debris.

I've always admired that about them. They truly do help communites, not just those of their own faith.

 

[galaxygoddess]

I'm notorious for not paying attention to what I say or type.

One of those "I'm working on that" type thing.

Several month ago, around Easter, I screwed up a joke I had heard, i couldn't remember the joke exactly, but I was trying my best (my memory is horrible) and I said something (which I shant repeat here) that I had actually said wrong, and it came out a VERY bad, highly insenstive way, and my husband's brother who is a pastor was standing right beside me when I said it. Well needless to say they didn't talk to me for a really long time, regardless of how much i tried to appologize for what I had said. They honestly thought I had meant it, and I didn't, I just screwed up. I didn't even use the right word i was trying to think of.


As for the foreskin thing, I actually had a neighbor have their son circumsized because they "didn't want to ruin his chances of getting laid". I kid you not, that was their exact words.


If I was intolerant of people's religion, race, gender or physical what have you, I woulnd't be on the internet


My late granma, was so racist, that she wouldn't let a "darkie" in her yard. The garbage men have a thing for old people who can't take care of themselves, to where they will go up to the house and pick up the trash cans. After one too many times of her screaming hysterically for the "Darkies" to get our of her yard, they stopped giving her the service. My dad would have to drive up there once a week to take the cans out there and then sit with her while the garbage men got her cans so she wouldn't call the cops of them. My mom pulled a child out of a burning building (mom's been in the rescue squad her whole life), and was telling my grand mother about this. My grandma immediately went on about how a "darkie" probably started the fire. Well mom grudgingly admitted that the child had actually been a black child. Well my gradma goes hysterical and telling mom that CHILD could have KILLED her because "you can't trust them darkies" Her exact words. I remember it clear as a bell. There was no reasoning with her that they were human beings just like her and that she needed to get the hell out of the 1800s.

I have more people in my family that if you're not in a fire and brimstone type church setting then you're going to hell. If you don't adhere to their EXACT religious beliefs then you're going to hell for it. Even if you were a christian and or baptist or something at least SIMILAR to them, no that wasn't enough you HAVE to be in a fire and brimstone type church o.o;; I have other still that if your not a member of THEIR church and THEIR church alone, then guess where you belong?

Oh a woman with a job? straight to hell with YOUR heathen ass *eyeroll*

oops I cussed, guess where I'm going?

I knew some Muslims, their youngest kids came to play at my house everyday. One of the girls had a viscious infection in her knee. Mom thought it was gangrene. They refused to take the girl to a doctor. Mom treated it anyway and put antibiotics on it and bandaged the knee and urged the parents to have her treated. They refused said it was against their religion. The knee go worse, but everyday mom would badage it up. Every day the girl would come back with it un-wrapped. Finally the mother of the two girls came by and said we were to never speak to her children again because mom was violating her religion by treating this poor girl's infected knee.


If I'm ever that bad... shoot me. Please?


also, did I ever mention i ramble incessantly?

 

[Pure]

an interesting discussion re polygamy;

a muslim compares with Jewish and Christian teachings and practices.

http://www.islamfortoday.com/polygamy5.htm

as to

jomar Interesting that modesty and polygamy are compatible.

P: i would say so, yes, highly compatible, given that (for example) the azkenazi Jews were forbidden polygamy only in the 11th century. there is no reason to think their previous practice involved "immodesty" [or more specifically, women displaying themselves unduly]. The law in Israel at present is *against polygamy*, though courts have often been *very* lenient in sentencing. see

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cach...pdf+polygamy,+israeli+law&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=12


so i would not quite agree with cloudy that good mormons repudiated polygamy and the "sects" kept it. rather i'd say that the official mormon "flip" replicates, on a shorter timescale, the "flip" of Jews, Xtians and some Muslims (in certain countries).

to put it in a better way, as does badawi, author of the article above, it could be said that the leaders of various religions realized what was 'core' and what was not; the core or essence can be preserved while changing certain practices. these are more a reflection of changing environments, just as, for example, Jesus wore sandals and we often do not (though there are 'barefooted' Xtian sects); it's really no big deal.

mormon undergarments went from one piece to two pieces some years back; an officially endorsed change. before that, the arm and leg lengths had been changed, respectively from wrist to elbow, and from ankle to above the knee.



==
jerusalem post, opinion piece by gf cashman,

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1143498786957&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull

excerpt

[Polygamy, in the European Jewish community] was outlawed by Rabbenu Gershom, one of the greatest Jewish scholars of his era. There is a popular myth that he issued the edict because he had two wives with a large age gap between them. The older one used to pluck out all the dark hair from his head and his beard, and the younger used to pluck out all the gray hair. The upshot was that he allegedly looked like a plucked chicken whose squawk put an end to polygamy

 

[jomar]

C'mon, did you not read anything else I said?

The sects that practice polygamy are NOT part of the LDS church. Please...read and comprehend.

I did miss your other post, but I am not ridiculing Mormons and did not mean to lump them all together. I do understand that LDS holds to monogamy and that more fundamentalist Mormons who do practice polygamy are not part of LDS. But as fundamentalists I would think they would wear the undergarments (I haven't had time to check), and if those undergarments are partly for modesty... Well, it seems an interesting juxtaposition to me, that's all.

 

[cumallday]

The more I think about this, the angrier it makes me.

Many of you are ridiculing them for their faith. I really want to know just how you think this is any different from any other form of bias. Oh, it's not about skin color here, but it's just as wrong, and just as hateful.

Do I agree with what they preach? Absolutely not, but they have the right to their faith, just like I have the right to mine.

Those of you having so much fun at their expense would be horrified if someone expressed the same sentiments in regards to someone's race. It's no different, and you ought to be ashamed of yourselves.

As a whole, the Mormons are good, law-abiding people. A few sects that practice polygamy do not a faith make. And if you ever bothered to research it, you'd find that those sects have been tossed out of the LDS church.

Go back to your fun at other's expense.

It is indeed different. I'm making fun of someone's choice, their free will, and not something they cannot choose like skin colour, however thin the skin might be. It isn't much different from making fun of someone's political leanings. Again, I disagree with your choices and more than likely will poke fun at you for making them (how you react is also your choice), but I do respect your right to make those choices, regardless of dorky underwear. All praise be to Tootie.

 

[Recidiva]

It is indeed different. I'm making fun of someone's choice, their free will, and not something they cannot choose like skin colour, however thin the skin might be. It isn't much different from making fun of someone's political leanings. Again, I disagree with your choices and more than likely will poke fun at you for making them (how you react is also your choice), but I do respect your right to make those choices, regardless of dorky underwear. All praise be to Tootie.

I prefer the Flying Spaghetti Monster. And Jo. Heathen.

 

[Dar~]

I am not a Mormon, but I really get sick of people like cumallday who dis on a faith because they don't understand it. So what if you don't believe it. Does that make it something to mock? Go forth and deliver your asinine words of ignorance, it just proves to s how stupid you really are.

 

[Guest]

The more I think about this, the angrier it makes me.

Many of you are ridiculing them for their faith. I really want to know just how you think this is any different from any other form of bias. Oh, it's not about skin color here, but it's just as wrong, and just as hateful.

Do I agree with what they preach? Absolutely not, but they have the right to their faith, just like I have the right to mine.

Those of you having so much fun at their expense would be horrified if someone expressed the same sentiments in regards to someone's race. It's no different, and you ought to be ashamed of yourselves.

As a whole, the Mormons are good, law-abiding people. A few sects that practice polygamy do not a faith make. And if you ever bothered to research it, you'd find that those sects have been tossed out of the LDS church.

Go back to your fun at other's expense.

You are quite right about this.

I must admit, however, I was very tickled when learning of the concept of special underwear for a religious group.

This wasn't a slam on any one group, though, just a bit of tittering on my part for the whole undies idea. Sort of like a superhero uniform under their regular clothes? Juvenile, but you have to admit, giggle-able.

I suppose it is no different than anything else people of faith use or wear or own to feel closer to their spiritual leaders.

But thinking about holy panties just makes me grin.

I'm a naughty girl.