What happened to all of the doom and gloom economic threads?

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[mercury14]

Oh so this isn't another one of your failures to use the term appropriately?

Tell us again how "it's not ad hominem if it's true"...

Okay.

QUOTE ME and show me how I misused the term!

Use underlines, whatever it takes, prove me to be the idiot you are accusing me of being.

If you cannot, then it proves that what I am saying is true about you!

So you changed your mind and no longer want me to quote you?

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

So you changed your mind and no longer want me to quote you?

I'm still waiting.

Show me where I accused U_D of ad hominem, because this was your launch point; you saw the word in a post. But you cannot, which is why you went tangential...

 

[IrezumiKiss]

As Obama plays his fiddle.....

"Always crying, always the victim, waaaaaaaaah..."

 

[mercury14]

I'm still waiting.

Show me where I accused U_D of ad hominem, because this was your launch point; you saw the word in a post. But you cannot, which is why you went tangential...

You didn't then. But you have hundreds of times, largely because you don't know what ad hominem means at all.

It's no ad hominem if it's true, right AJ? That's your understanding of it.

 

[koalabear]

Beginning Sunday, September 2, 2012, federally extended unemployment insurance benefits will be reduced by 10 weeks.

The change is a result of the federal legislation, which reauthorized the extended benefits earlier this year.

 

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[Sean Renaud]

Employment numbers will go up when the government stops paying people to stay home.

If it doesn't will you admit to being wrong or will Obama have gained a new super power?

 

[mercury14]

Employment numbers will go up when the government stops paying people to stay home.

Wait. I thought your line was that there were no jobs because of Obama. If there are no jobs then how will employment numbers go up of folks lose benefits?

 

[Sean Renaud]

Wait. I thought your line was that there were no jobs because of Obama. If there are no jobs then how will employment numbers go up of folks lose benefits?

If they have less money they'll work harder to eat. If they work harder to eat they'll make more money.

 

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[Sean Renaud]

Obama and the Democrats advocate paying people not to work. People do not want to accept marginal work when they can make more on unemployment.

Obama and his policies inhibit the creation of new jobs but there are jobs are available, but they might not be more desirable than sitting on your ass at home collecting a government check. There are less jobs available because of Obama and his policies. Liberalism and it's wealth re-distribution schemes are a plague on free enterprise and a real threat to freedom in general.

I wish I was old enough to believe this madness.

 

[phrodeau]

Obama and the Democrats advocate paying people not to work. People do not want to accept marginal work when they can make more on unemployment.

Obama and his policies inhibit the creation of new jobs but there are jobs are available, but they might not be more desirable than sitting on your ass at home collecting a government check. There are less jobs available because of Obama and his policies. Liberalism and it's wealth re-distribution schemes are a plague on free enterprise and a real threat to freedom in general.

Have a word with the Republican-led Congress about creating jobs and cutting welfare programs. It ain't happening on your side of the aisle.

 

[jeninflorida]

Have a word with the Republican-led Congress about creating jobs and cutting welfare programs. It ain't happening on your side of the aisle.

Is welfare a good thing?

hear me out on this. For those that are on welfare and need it, do they really want to be on welfare? Also, is there enough money for a family to make ends meet while on welfare?

Shouldn't our goal, be to help provide need to family (as who wants to see kids suffer), and provide skills or a career for the parents to better themselves and become self supporting?

Are we doing enough for families that want to have the American dream and are willing to do the work to achieve the dream?

 

[eyer]

Tough to tell whether there's more doom or gloom ahead for Greece from this homeboy trader's offering:

Right now, I am afraid there is very little visibility regarding the political developments in the next few months. You might as well toss a coin.

At some point, however, I believe we shall reach some kind of 'social tipping point' regarding the ability of the Greek households and society to absorb more austerity measures, the consequential continuing steep decline in economic activity and ever rising unemployment. The result may well be social rebellion, maybe even civic mutiny and associated political and parliamentary instability. This is the the game plan that the neo-communists of Syriza have been preparing for over the past year or so and the one that they have actually reinforced whenever and wherever that was possible. Unfortunately, I cannot see a 'good ending' scenario, under the present circumstances. Now when this tipping point may be reached, is anybody's guess. It could very well be, as close as only a few months away. I do not believe that you can find anybody, within or outside Greece, that still sincerely and truly believes that the troika process of 'internal devaluation' shall lead to a positive socioeconomic outcome since no effective counter-balancing economic development measures and incentives were ever implemented, or even seriously considered.

Sorry I could not offer a more optimistic or positive picture and I hope that developments soon prove me wrong.

http://www.businessinsider.com/gree...oon-heading-for-a-social-tipping-point-2012-8

 

[mercury14]

Obama and the Democrats advocate paying people not to work. People do not want to accept marginal work when they can make more on unemployment.

Obama and his policies inhibit the creation of new jobs but there are jobs are available, but they might not be more desirable than sitting on your ass at home collecting a government check. There are less jobs available because of Obama and his policies. Liberalism and it's wealth re-distribution schemes are a plague on free enterprise and a real threat to freedom in general.

If people accept marginal employment you'll just fault Obama for that too.

If I get laid off I'm not working at Steak and Shake.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

You didn't then. But you have hundreds of times, largely because you don't know what ad hominem means at all.

It's no ad hominem if it's true, right AJ? That's your understanding of it.

So, you are guilty of exactly that which I charged you with.


Seek professional help.

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

Obama and the Democrats advocate paying people not to work. People do not want to accept marginal work when they can make more on unemployment.

Obama and his policies inhibit the creation of new jobs but there are jobs are available, but they might not be more desirable than sitting on your ass at home collecting a government check. There are less jobs available because of Obama and his policies. Liberalism and it's wealth re-distribution schemes are a plague on free enterprise and a real threat to freedom in general.

Misinformed as usual..

The Romney campaign put out a TV ad that charged President Obama with wanting to "gut welfare reform by dropping work requirements" and simply sending checks to the unemployed.

The Romney commercial shocked welfare-policy experts. They say that the Obama administration rule change is a waiver aimed at reducing red tape so that states that administer welfare programs could put more people on payrolls, not fewer. Even Romney himself sought such a change when he was Massachusetts governor.

"Basically, it's not true; it's inaccurate and misleading," said Elizabeth Ananat, an assistant professor of public policy and economics at Duke University who studies poverty. She added that the Republican effort to take what had been a bipartisan policy push and "turn it into a cudgel is unfortunate - it's election-year politics."

Politifact also said that the claim "inflames old resentments about able-bodied adults sitting around collecting public assistance."

More-partisan pundits have had harsher words for the GOP attacks, calling them a "dog-whistle" to appeal to some white working-class voters by linking a black president to stereotypes about welfare recipients not wanting to work.

In addition, media critics have wondered why more news outlets aren't more aggressive in calling out a presidential campaign that keeps repeating a called-out lie.

From Bob Haskins on NPR:

The Obama administration has offered waivers that would allow states some flexibility in setting rules for welfare. These waivers were requested by both Democratic and Republican governors, who are looking for new ways to move people from welfare to work in a stagnant economy. Bob Haskins, who worked as a Republican staffer for welfare policy during the Reagan, George H.W. Bush, and Clinton administrations, told NPR flatly, “There’s no plausible scenario under which [Obama's policy] really constitutes a serious attack on welfare reform.”


I'll grant you that Romney has become a remarkable liar, but his material is far from original. This is the very same race baiting bullshit that has graced the Republican playbook on a class basis since forever, and on a racial basis since Harry Dent convinced Richard Nixon that, in many dark places in its heart, the whole country was Alabama. Just as truthful as Ronald Reagan's vicious stories about welfare queens driving their cadillacs to the store to pick up a couple of T-bones on your dime.

Will the usual suspects here now suddenly notice the elephant in the room now that it's taken a huge steaming dump on the Persian?

Doubtful.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

If people accept marginal employment you'll just fault Obama for that too.

If I get laid off I'm not working at Steak and Shake.

Then why should vette and I support you in any, way, shape or form if pride gets in the way of you supporting yourself by accepting temporary work?

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Holiday Doom and Gloom:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-...ay-record-as-storm-surge-pressures-obama.html

Gas prices.

The offshoot of limiting your base of supply geographically.

 

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[4est_4est_Gump]

You would if you weren't being supported by the government.

Seems Federal Government workers don't have the same worries and concerns as the rest of the working world...




... unless, of course, you have to have that next rank or be "retired" for not making the grade like our soldiers have to face. I guess that's what they mean by "civilian-soldier..."

 

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[4est_4est_Gump]

He's a bureaucrat in uniform.

If his claims can even be believed after some of thew whoppers he has been caught red-handed telling...

 

[mercury14]

Then why should vette and I support you in any, way, shape or form if pride gets in the way of you supporting yourself by accepting temporary work?

Because if you support me I'll have far more time and flexibility to get the right job, quicker, and will pay more taxes in the long run. If I'm doing 50 hours at Steak and Shake plus token family time I'm not looking for a job in my field.