What happened to all of the doom and gloom economic threads?

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He's a great community organizer, one that became a damn good President if not as good as was hoped. If Republicans Cave which I think is a good chance Obamacare will go forward. There is pretty much zero chance of this getting delayed. Face it, you lost.

You are funny have you ever thought of doing a gig at a comedy club before:confused:

When did he become a good President before are after Putin made Obama his bitch:confused:
 
You are funny have you ever thought of doing a gig at a comedy club before:confused:

When did he become a good President before are after Putin made Obama his bitch:confused:

He's been a good President the entire time and he's nobody's bitch. I know you've got some crazy ideas but that's not reality. He's got his issues, not curb stomping the Republicans first and foremost amongst them. No other president has been as disrespected as this one and no other President would stand for it, the rest would have quietly started disappearing folks long before now.
 
He's been a good President the entire time and he's nobody's bitch. I know you've got some crazy ideas but that's not reality. He's got his issues, not curb stomping the Republicans first and foremost amongst them. No other president has been as disrespected as this one and no other President would stand for it, the rest would have quietly started disappearing folks long before now.

You are fucking hilarious.
Everything Obama gets involved in turns to shit.
Guess you forgot what the left done for 8 years under bush and the disrespect :cool:
The rest of the world knows how weak and clueless are President is, he's a joke so much you have guy that agreed to destroy his weapons of mass destruction then comes back and ask for a billion dollars to do so after the fact.
 
You are fucking hilarious.
Everything Obama gets involved in turns to shit.
Guess you forgot what the left done for 8 years under bush and the disrespect :cool:
The rest of the world knows how weak and clueless are President is, he's a joke so much you have guy that agreed to destroy his weapons of mass destruction then comes back and ask for a billion dollars to do so after the fact.

No, everything Obama touches doesn't turn to shit. The recovery has gone fine, the wars have wounded down, hell Russia is stepping up to help defend world peace. You could hardly ask for more.

The eight years under Bush were no where near as bad as this. There isn't even a comparison. There were no governors pointing in his face, no congressmen shouting you lie, no forgetting to address him as the President. There is no comparison.

The rest of the world doesn't think we're weak or clueless. For the first time in a long time the rest of the world is impressed with us. I didn't hear about this billion bucks, I assume we're not giving it since he's gonna be dead shortly but if a billion dollars is what it costs, make sure the job is done first then pay the man.
 
No, everything Obama touches doesn't turn to shit. The recovery has gone fine, the wars have wounded down, hell Russia is stepping up to help defend world peace. You could hardly ask for more.

The eight years under Bush were no where near as bad as this. There isn't even a comparison. There were no governors pointing in his face, no congressmen shouting you lie, no forgetting to address him as the President. There is no comparison.

The rest of the world doesn't think we're weak or clueless. For the first time in a long time the rest of the world is impressed with us. I didn't hear about this billion bucks, I assume we're not giving it since he's gonna be dead shortly but if a billion dollars is what it costs, make sure the job is done first then pay the man.

You are right 8 years under Bush wasn't as bad:D
More people had jobs then:D
Less people where depending on government hand outs:D
 
So now you're against the rich doing well?

Talk about flip flop... first you go from straight to gay, and now this!

His hatred for President Obama knows no bounds.

The growing likelihood that he'll never see a Republican president again during his remaining years on Earth fuel his bitter rage.
 
His hatred for President Obama knows no bounds.

The growing likelihood that he'll never see a Republican president again during his remaining years on Earth fuel his bitter rage.

All he has to do is make it to 2020, 2024 at the lastest. I don't think there has been a stretch of more than 16 years not counting the man they had to summon death to beat.
 
CURL: ‘Is everybody wrong’ about health care except Obama?
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ANALYSIS/OPINION:

‘Is everybody wrong?”

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SPECIAL COVERAGE: Health Care Reform

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That, in three simple words, was the question a reporter asked President Obama last week.

“Yes, they are,” the president said with a straight face. “People will look back and they’ll be asking, ‘What was the argument about? Why is everybody fighting this so much?’”

Why? Well, here, Mr. President, are just a few of the many, many reasons:

• You can’t keep your own health care. The president spent the past four years assuring Americans that “if you like your plan, you can keep it.” Not so, said doubters, but he castigated them as obstructionist naysayers playing politics.

Except they turned out to be right: You can’t keep your plan. But the media say: wrong. Companies are killing coverage they once offered to employees and heading into government exchanges. Huge companies like Home Depot. More — many more — will follow. What does it mean? Millions of workers will soon be forced to choose only from government policies.

Just as bad, other giant corporations, like the country’s largest drugstore chain, are opting for private exchanges in which workers will need to buy their own insurance. What it means: fewer choices and higher costs (as companies likely won’t raise contributions when premiums rise — as they always do).

• Your health records no longer will be private — and neither will your sex life. “Are you sexually active? If so, with one partner, multiple partners or same-sex partners?” That’s just one of the questions you’ll soon be forced to answer.

Why? Because once the government’s involved, everything is its business. Doctors and hospitals won’t get your tax money unless they comply with every jot and tittle of the law. And the president is hiring tens of thousands of IRS workers to police his program, so he’ll have the firepower to get your data.

What’s more, the government will be storing all your health records. Think they’re safe? The feds can’t even keep a low-level NSA worker from pilfering America’s most secret intelligence. Please. Soon, anyone who wants to know can find out if you have a faulty thyroid or get a monthly Viagra supply.

• Prices are already spiraling out of control. One self-employed friend has seen a torrent of changes: First, his provider did away with his type of low-cost, high-deductible policy. Next, his rates went up 44 percent in 2012 for the new policy. Then, they went up again by 27 percent in 2013 — and he already has received word that they’ll rise again by 31 percent for 2014.

• The president and Congress are exempting all their friends. Hundreds of companies have won exemptions from the law — not surprisingly, most of them in blue, Obama-supporting states. Congress also quietly voted to make itself, lawmakers and staff, exempt — although members routinely lie to the American people that they’re not. (Fact: All will get a “special subsidy” worth $11,000 per family, which, any way you slice it, makes them exempt.)

So, just 10 days before the law takes effect, the verdict is in: America hates Obamacare. Just 39 percent now have a “favorable” opinion. What’s more, unions nationwide, once among the biggest supporters, are balking at what they suddenly realize will be much higher premiums.

“Why is everybody fighting this so much?” That’s why, Mr. President. Just, you know, FYI.


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didya see the NY Slime today?

They said PREMIUMS will go down for some, BUT they will get drastically CUT BACK care.....

WORTHLESS

Motherfucker asshole piece of SHIT CURRY lied again

I HOPE HE IS SHOT 68 times by a gang banger, I now put him in NIGGER WHORE territory
 
FORBES: Obamacare Will Increase Health Spending By $7,450 For Family of Four...
 
On Main St., Obamacare hurts hiring: Staffing CEO

Monday, 23 Sep 2013 | 7:41 AM ET Bob Funk, Express Professions CEO, discusses the fallout from health care reform on businesses. With open enrollment for Obamacare about to begin, small- and medium-sized businesses are not hiring because of uncertainty surrounding the implementation of the law, the CEO of nation's fifth-largest staffing company said on Monday.


"Companies are really not interested in hiring full-time people. That's really the issue with Obamacare," Express Employment Professionals boss Bob Funk told CNBC's "Squawk Box" on Monday.

Funk, a former chairman of the Kansas City Federal Reserve, admitted that this trend is a "boon" for his business, but "not healthy for the country as a whole."

(Read more: Most Americans against defunding Obamacare: Survey)

On October 1, consumers are scheduled to be able to buy health insurance from state exchanges for coverage effective Jan. 1, 2014. Most individuals are required to carry insurance under President Barack Obama's 2010 Affordable Care Act or face fines.

Back in early July, the White House and the Treasury Department announced a one-year delay in a major provision that would have required employers with at least 50 full-time workers to provide health insurance or pay a penalty. That'll now go into effect in 2015.

(Read more: A wild week ahead as Senate confronts shutdown deadline)

Steven Rattner, Obama's former auto czar at Treasury, disputes Funk's assertions. "I don't think with the approach of Obamacare you see in the numbers people suddenly stopping hiring.

"Everybody has these anecdotal reports of this and that, and certainly the logical argument, they're going to go to part-time, but you just can't find it in the numbers," argued Rattner, current chairman of Willett Advisors.

Funk countered, "We're out there on Main Street and Obamacare is affecting the job hiring picture. Whether it's in the numbers or not, it is affecting small and medium-sized businesses. They're not going to hire until they know what their costs are going to be."

"We don't know what the rules are going to be," Funk added. "But they haven't written half of the rules … and it's affecting business, and permanent hiring out there. That's why our industry is growing quite rapidly."

Rattner conceded at least something of Funk's point.

"I don't doubt that Obamacare has created a temporary period of uncertainty," he said. "If you're going to tell me Obamacare is the cause of the tepid recovery for the last five years, I think that's a stretch."
 
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Revealed: Obama came up with ObamaCare because he needed a throwaway applause line in a campaign speech


Dan McLaughlin’s right: This really is the most Obama thing ever.

Knowing what you know about him, if you had to guess the genesis of his biggest domestic legislative initiative, which would you guess? That he spent years studying the issue, consumed by the intricacies of health-care policy and determined to make a difference if ever placed in a position to do so? Or that he needed a killer line for one of his speeches and couldn’t let pass a golden opportunity to grandstand? QED. Even the transformation of American health care is but a subplot to Hopenchange image-making.


Soon-to-be-candidate Obama, then an Illinois senator, was thinking about turning down an invitation to speak at a big health care conference sponsored by the progressive group Families USA [in January 2007], when two aides, Robert Gibbs and Jon Favreau, hit on an idea that would make him appear more prepared and committed than he actually was at the moment.

Why not just announce his intention to pass universal health care by the end of his first term?…

“We needed something to say,” recalled one of the advisers involved in the discussion. “I can’t tell you how little thought was given to that thought other than it sounded good. So they just kind of hatched it on their own. It just happened. It wasn’t like a deep strategic conversation.”…

The candidate jumped at it. He probably wasn’t going to get elected anyway, the team concluded. Why not go big?

I can’t quote much more due to fair use but you should read the rest to see how the pattern recurred during the 2008 campaign. Not until two months after he made the promise described above did he bother to get up to speed on health-care policy, and that was only because Hillary destroyed him over it at an SEIU candidate forum. (It seems looooong ago now but candidate Obama actually argued against Clinton’s preference for an individual mandate on the trail. Why? “Aides say Obama was simply looking for any way to differentiate himself from an opponent whose basic policy positions were indistinguishable from his own.”) Later it was Ted Kennedy who pressed him to stick with health-care reform by making his endorsement semi-contingent upon O doing so. Once Obama got to the Oval Office, Rahm Emanuel pleaded with him to find something else to focus on in his first year but O insisted on forging ahead because, unlike Bill Clinton, he didn’t get elected to “do school uniforms.” He had, as usual, come to believe his own bullsh*t about the grandiosity of Hopenchange, and having orated his way into the presidency, he probably figured (not without reason) that he could sell the country on a new health-care boondoggle too. It’s been a thorn in his side ever since, and the pain’s only going to get worse.

What’s striking about this story is how it mirrors the genesis of his half-assed “red line” on Syria. That was also the product of an idle remark that sounded good at the time on a subject that Obama obviously didn’t consider a high priority. Just as health-care reform became a test of his credibility on the left as a candidate, propelling him into a fight he didn’t necessarily want, the “red line” became a test of his credibility as commander-in-chief. The big divergence among the two comes right before the outcome: O felt comfortable plowing ahead on O-Care because he had tons of support for it among his own party, but when it came time to punch Assad in the face, the support wasn’t there so he chickened out. He’s willing to damage himself and his party to pursue idealistic policies that are virtually guaranteed to backfire in implementation, but he’s not going out on the limb by himself.

Bear all of this in mind today while you’re reading the Times’s story about the newest trade-off under ObamaCare. Premiums might end up being lower for some people, but there’s a reason, and it’s not one you’ll like. Exit question: How is it that this story about the genesis of O-Care has never been reported before?
 
*sniff*
Smells like bitter angry loser tears.
five Dizzybooby posts interrupted only by one Jen"Dumbasastump"inFlorida.

That must mean something great for America happened today!
 
*sniff*
Smells like bitter angry loser tears.
five Dizzybooby posts interrupted only by one Jen"Dumbasastump"inFlorida.

That must mean something great for America happened today!

It's getting closer to the final Obamacare rollout and people aren't getting scared enough with the standard screaming village idiot on a soapbox template, so they're throwing out all the haymakers and blind Hail Mary passes they can. :D
 
So will they quiet down in seven days? I feel all giddy. It's like one of those suspense movies. Can we get one of those Jack Bauer cuts of what everybody is doing at each day finally culminating in victory?
 
Let them roll it out, let it suck the life out of an already struggling economy, let it implode when the younger generations says fuck you I'm not buying in, and doctors refuse to treat people. Let the Congress be inundated with of hate mail, let their switchboards be jammed up with angry Americans. Let them wind up with millions more of uncovered, untreated people than they initially planned on helping. Let them destroy the health care system. Let everyone remember who voted for it. Let the civil society do to Obama care what it did to Prohibition and FDR's NRA.

Just curiuos if none of this comes to pass will you admit you were wrong?
 
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