What girls think about doing to guys

[Aurelia_Malys]

um...i completely disagree. if unclear on why, take a gander at this thread for a little illumination.

ed

I have visited that thread and laughed as some of the ridiculous pms and shared annoyance at others.

My comment was more global in Mike's generalizing habits to jump to "all women hate me so there is no point in even trying" and why that is not a logical conclusion for him to draw from his experiences. I receive daily unsolicited pms from many people who i would consider idiots (by reading the few lines they write to me) but I have no reason to "hate" them. Every now and then I get some unusual pms that rise to a level of more than just disregard, but in general I get unsolicited pms, read them, share them with my husband, roll my eyes at the person who wrote the pm, and then delete it. I would never say those pms (which i do not reply to) make me hate men.

As for "rejection" that is interesting to consider (please excuse the upcoming geeky side-track, but I like examining words and issues) .... looking at the connotation vs denotation of the word is important. Is a lack of response to an unsolicited item of communication is "rejection"? [Just thinking about junk mail - I dont answer most of it but I dont consider that rejecting it. If i decline an invitation to a party, then I consider that a rejection.] An aspiring writer sending off her newly finished novel to publishing houses and agents will receive a variety of types of replies - some will be rejections ("sorry, the story is not right for us"), some will be suggestions for improvement ("we suggest these changes. you may resubmit if you make them"), some will be more hopeful ("we will consider it and let one of our editors read it"). and some you might never get a response from "radio silence". Many writers eventually consider the lack of reply a rejection, but they do no jump to that conclusion immediately. There are a variety of reasons for getting any of these responses. Not all originate with "I hate writers and so am going reject this manuscript"

silverwhisper, than you for making me ponder words and their meaning and uses - I love doing that!

I continue to believe that there is a breakdown to the OP's logic:
I send unsolicited emails about vaginal muscles => I get no response from the women => They all reject me => Women all hate me => I have no hope of meeting someone since women are such enigmas to me

Adding to that ... the OP also commented that this thread has taught him that asking women about what they want to do to him is met with hostility ... if that is how he is reading it, then I think he is overly sensitive to things and perhaps that is part of his problem in building interpersonal relationships.

 

[Lord Pmann]

One of the things I like about this thread was that the OP actually seems to get it and want help. Most posters don't give a donkey's dick about the advice they receive. Mike seems to be taking the advice and reading it. I wish him the best.

Guys tend to have a skewed view of things sometimes. Guys think if a girl is on a sex forum then she must want to talk about sex with everyone. It's not all that different than real life to be honest. You still have to have something that makes you desirable. It's less dependent on looks here. I mean, easy for me to see as I'm a lady killer (see avatar), but still, it's my winning personality that people love. Seriously though, this is not far from real life. The relationships you make here can be real. The friendships can be real. I've never made a friendship or relationship happen by asking a girl about her kegel skills as an introduction. Be genuine. Be nice. And FFS, be interesting. When you're on the Internet, being interesting is waaaaaay important. More important than being pretty. More important than having a big wiener. If your conversation isn't natural, then your time together won't be fun, whether you get responses or not.

 

[mike2010fc]

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[TheTemptresss]

Very interesting thread. If I may add my thoughts.

Personally, I love to do to a man whatever is going to arouse him most. That way I get my reward in spades Sucking a guy turns ME on a LOT so that's always a double whammy.

Anyone receiving unwanted PMs can turn the PM thread off. So if that is happening to you, perhaps you should do this. Unless you get off on laughing at the poor saps who PM you, of course. In which case that says as much about you as it does them.

Personally, I welcome PMs. I respond to most of them. If I get a persistent one that I'm not keen on, I can block PMs from them. I haven't, yet. But obviously, I am an attention whore, which is why I am here.

The OP is obviously searching for answers that he hasn't even got the questions to - but one of them is this. Money isn't even IN this equation. If someone likes you, then they like you. If they only like you because you have money then they don't like you, they like your money. If you have none, as you say, then the one thing you can be sure of is that if someone likes you, they like YOU, and not what you have.

HTH

 

[jhuson]

Just be yourself.

But what if you're an asshole?

If so, being yourself is probably the last thing you'd want to do.

 

[TheTemptresss]

But what if you're an asshole?

If so, being yourself is probably the last thing you'd want to do.

True, but at least everyone else gets a heads up

 

[principessa11]

I have plenty of things I'd love to do with a man, the right man, but it's hard to tell whether or not someone is the right man by just a PM, especially if they have next to nothing in their profile. I've lost track of the number of men who've PM'd me just with "hi, how are you?" I mean, yes, that's better than, "I want to rip off your panties and shove them in your mouth while I fuck you from behind," but still, it doesn't give me much to work with.

For me personally, I'd like to get to know a man before jumping right into cybersex or whatever. So I guess I'd prefer an initial PM be an introduction of sorts. You know - age, marital status, what part of the world you're in, a basic physical description, etc. I want a man to tell me about himself and what interests him, sexually and otherwise. If I'm intrigued, I write back. If you're married, I want to be told upfront, and fair or not, I have no interest in pursuing anything with a married man.

I have to wonder if perhaps you aren't selective enough, particularly if you're sending out "thousands" of PMs without much luck? I mean, I love men, but I don't want just ANY man. KWIM? When I see posts from men saying they want to chat with ANY woman, I sort of side eye that. You honestly have no preferences? Anyone with a pussy will do? Gee, thanks. Doesn't exactly make a lady feel special. I'd rather know that someone is with me (virtually or in "real life") because he really wants ME and not just a warm body.

 

[TheTemptresss]

I have plenty of things I'd love to do with a man, the right man, but it's hard to tell whether or not someone is the right man by just a PM, especially if they have next to nothing in their profile. I've lost track of the number of men who've PM'd me just with "hi, how are you?" I mean, yes, that's better than, "I want to rip off your panties and shove them in your mouth while I fuck you from behind," but still, it doesn't give me much to work with.

For me personally, I'd like to get to know a man before jumping right into cybersex or whatever. So I guess I'd prefer an initial PM be an introduction of sorts. You know - age, marital status, what part of the world you're in, a basic physical description, etc. I want a man to tell me about himself and what interests him, sexually and otherwise. If I'm intrigued, I write back. If you're married, I want to be told upfront, and fair or not, I have no interest in pursuing anything with a married man.

I have to wonder if perhaps you aren't selective enough, particularly if you're sending out "thousands" of PMs without much luck? I mean, I love men, but I don't want just ANY man. KWIM? When I see posts from men saying they want to chat with ANY woman, I sort of side eye that. You honestly have no preferences? Anyone with a pussy will do? Gee, thanks. Doesn't exactly make a lady feel special. I'd rather know that someone is with me (virtually or in "real life") because he really wants ME and not just a warm body.

Yes and no - In a way, a guy talking all about himself puts me off in the same way that a "Hi, I want to fuck your ass" PM would. A nice hello, I enjoyed your thread/pics/post/whatever, particularly the bit about .... and I wondered if you'd like to chat a little? That would work, I can then ask what I want to know, and if it becomes obvious that we're not compatible or whatever, then I can just say thanks but no thanks. We're all adults here, no?

 

[Sexy_Me0508]

I always write PMs to women on Lit about the myriad of things I would do, all the ways I would kiss and tease and make them shudder. I've always been wired that way, to explore, not to receive.

But I was thinking, what about all the things that girls want to do to guys? I've never really talked with someone about that before, and honestly in my own experience, it doesn't seem like women really want men? Am I missing something?


Mike

Two things I want to comment on reading your posts:
1: You're a wired to explore not to receive. I think men do make the mistake of believing their women just want to be pleasured. We want to give you pleasure as much as we want to receive pleasure

2. Do women not really want men? No that's not the case but love-making or even casual sex holds an element of emotions. I have been known to be turn off by a lover who:
1. doesn't listen
2. doesn't take time
3. says one wrong word
We take time to warm up but we take even quicker to be put off and when we are put off, its hard for us to be turned on again...