What Are You Thinking? Continued 14

[Deleted member 1306910]

Every post you have made directed at me and others who post in show us your chest and bum thread does not have the creepy vibe at all, you put off a I like your body and respect you for showing it to me.

I am glad you think so. I do like your body and I do respect you. I am very grateful when you and the other ladies show it. That being said, if anyone feels that anything I say is beyond the pale, please reach out to me. I will change it or delete it and make amends.

 

[CMK89]

Every post you have made directed at me and others who post in show us your chest and bum thread does not have the creepy vibe at all, you put off a I like your body and respect you for showing it to me.

I just read the most recent post Nev made. She made her profile in April, how is his comments of kissing her body, any less offensive than another saying he wants to spank her?

 

[CMK89]

I will not be debating this with you. I give you the benefit of the doubt, because I've known guys like you. But at a certasin point, you stop being ignorant and you are just being a jerk. Imagine you are in lockup and your new cellie walks up and says he saw your cock in the showers and he wants to suck it. What would you do and how would you feel?

Personally, I'd take it as flattering (ive had gay men hit on me in crude ways and wasn't offended.) Offense is only taken if you allow it to.

 

[TwoTaTango]

I am thinking it is Sunday and the Clowns are running the Asylum today ....or so it seems

 

[Cyber_Bella]

I just read the most recent post Nev made. She made her profile in April, how is his comments of kissing her body, any less offensive than another saying he wants to spank her?

Because my guess is that Nev and she have had conversations in the past. Therefore it is less threatening. This is my last comment I’m going to make because this has become the CMK show and this is what he wants. Attention.

 

[SinfuIDreams]

I just read the most recent post Nev made. She made her profile in April, how is his comments of kissing her body, any less offensive than another saying he wants to spank her?

Dude Nev is a guy for starters.
And he goes out of his way and gets to know the people he comments on.
Plus he didn't tell me I must be wet to be posing. You don't get to tell women what they must feel or what you want to do to them especially if they aren't into you in the littlest bit. Well you can but I can also guarantee it won't work out well for you.
You will end up on so many blocklist you won't ever find someone with a like mind. Which is what the majority of people come to lit for, to connect with educated people with a like mind. They don't come here to have every tom, dick and harry drool all over them with sleazy ass comments.

 

[saustin5432]

And I apologize everytime I am told I over step, have even corrected posts.

I'm hopefully not going to regret tossing in my two sense [sic]. The fact that you have had to apologize "every time" (implying multiple issues) in your first week here ought to be indicative to you that there is an issue. Would you talk this way to people in the real world?

Everything you said might not have been creepy or offensive to everyone, but the if the person you said it to did not like it that's really all that matters. But let's take a common sense approach to the most recent comment and look at it in a real world interaction. If you were at a party with a mix of friends and people you don't know and one woman you don't know said "I'm heading out, good night everyone" would you respond with what you said here? If you did and your friends said "hey dude, she really didn't like what you said", would you double-down on saying it was harmless and you didn't know that was inappropriate? THIS is what you're doing here and you're not helping yourself by continuing to fight about it, blaming the double-standard, censorship, "I wouldn't be offended by what I said" and whatever other poor justification I have seen you use here and in the what are you doing thread.

Let it go. Take the feedback you have gotten here. Interact with people the same way you would in the real world. I'm not going to speak for everyone here in the PG, but I have a pretty good sense that the sexiest, dirtiest public posts between members are Litsters who have some type of rapport or relationship already.

 

[Cat]

I am glad you think so. I do like your body and I do respect you. I am very grateful when you and the other ladies show it. That being said, if anyone feels that anything I say is beyond the pale, please reach out to me. I will change it or delete it and make amends.

... Nevyn
Just, this..

Thank you for being you!!

 

[CMK89]

Because my guess is that Nev and she have had conversations in the past. Therefore it is less threatening. This is my last comment I’m going to make because this has become the CMK show and this is what he wants. Attention.

Far from it, I just want things to be equal. I mean seriously... someone brand new comes to the site, sees how you all interact with eachother in a public space, imitates it and they're attacked for it. How are they supposed to know that it's wrong? It would be like seeing a group of 10 people, man and woman. The girls start flashing and showingboffbtheir bodies and the the men show the start hooping and hollering in delight, comments on wanting to do dirty things to them, the girls find their reaction appealing. A girl witnesses it, wants to make friends with said group, so she comes over and flashes or even strips naked and strolls over. By what've witnessed here, the group would accept her in lovingly. A man witnesses the same thing, but is a chubby trucker type, not (input ideal male celebrity) he doesn't even get naked, justbstolls over and repeats verbatim what he heard another man say, he would be attacked or mocked. How is this acceptable?

 

[Cyber_Bella]

FOR EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES.

 

[CMK89]

I'm hopefully not going to regret tossing in my two sense [sic]. The fact that you have had to apologize "every time" (implying multiple issues) in your first week here ought to be indicative to you that there is an issue. Would you talk this way to people in the real world?

Everything you said might not have been creepy or offensive to everyone, but the if the person you said it to did not like it that's really all that matters. But let's take a common sense approach to the most recent comment and look at it in a real world interaction. If you were at a party with a mix of friends and people you don't know and one woman you don't know said "I'm heading out, good night everyone" would you respond with what you said here? If you did and your friends said "hey dude, she really didn't like what you said", would you double-down on saying it was harmless and you didn't know that was inappropriate? THIS is what you're doing here and you're not helping yourself by continuing to fight about it, blaming the double-standard, censorship, "I wouldn't be offended by what I said" and whatever other poor justification I have seen you use here and in the what are you doing thread.

Let it go. Take the feedback you have gotten here. Interact with people the same way you would in the real world. I'm not going to speak for everyone here in the PG, but I have a pretty good sense that the sexiest, dirtiest public posts between members are Litsters who have some type of rapport or relationship already.

This is how I speak to people in real life. I discuss, challenge and debate topics of all degrees. If I didn't mean to offend by saying something to someone and I would apologize in the appropriate manner. Ie "My apologies, I didn't mean to offend you. What about it did you find offensive?" And try to explain myself further after/if they give me an explanation.

 

[NC_Coastal]

I'm thinking I wish I hadn't seen this thread.

 

[saustin5432]

This is how I speak to people in real life. I discuss, challenge and debate topics of all degrees. If I didn't mean to offend by saying something to someone and I would apologize in the appropriate manner. Ie "My apologies, I didn't mean to offend you. What about it did you find offensive?" And try to explain myself further after/if they give me an explanation.

You would tell a complete stranger "Good night, wet dreams"? Alright. I apologize for making that assumption about you.

 

[Chillygirl]

Every time I think hey it’s not so bad some shit blows up.

 

[CMK89]

You would tell a complete stranger "Good night, wet dreams"? Alright. I apologize for making that assumption about you.

I already explained that post. It was mistyped, I got busy and came back, and was attacked. I even apologized but also took a stance on the double standard this site/community has. Not a single person has disputed that either. Everyone that's responded won't touch that subject, that a brand new woman can come in and say and do whatever she wants, but a man must approach each person individually and if that person doesn't like them, they must Never say anything to them, even an emoji my trigger a melt down.

 

[Xerxes82]

This is how I speak to people in real life. I discuss, challenge and debate topics of all degrees. If I didn't mean to offend by saying something to someone and I would apologize in the appropriate manner. Ie "My apologies, I didn't mean to offend you. What about it did you find offensive?" And try to explain myself further after/if they give me an explanation.

You say you've apologized, but have you really?

Oh, sure, you typed some words. Like they are some magic spell that absolves you of all responsibilty or repurcussions.

But a key element of a sincere apology is remorse or contrition. Showing that you have a real understanding that you have wronged someone, even if you don't understand the specifics of how or why.

And yet you continue to follow up your apology by outright stating you don't feel you did anything wrong, desperately trying to play the victim, and talking about how YOU don't feel you were offensive. Nowhere is there any real care or concern for the women you've offended or their viewpoint.

You went through some motions. That's not an apology, that's a form letter.

 

[ToPleaseHim]

Coz he's a dictim.

This is my new favorite term and I cannot wait to share it with my daughters, lol. It’s totally fitting with conversations we’ve had recently about entitled men. Dictims. So good!

Well...now I am thinking about things I;ve said in the past that may have been meant in the best way to me, but came off as way too creepy. Especially in some of the "show your chest/show your butt" threads. I think I have a couple of apologies to make.

I don’t think you have any need to apologize. Also, the very nature of the “Show your body parts” threads invites those responses and they are welcome. It’s been a while since I’ve shared a tit pic, but any time I’ve shared one I expect to get compliments and even suggestions for future pics. Now, I often also get gross PMs from men who now assume they can dominate me or something because I’m a regular on the BDSM forum and posted tits they don’t see the difference between a submissive and their submissive. Those guys? Yeah, they can fuck right off.

 

[CMK89]

You say you've apologized, but have you really?

Oh, sure, you typed some words. Like they are some magic spell that absolves you of all responsibilty or repurcussions.

But a key element of a sincere apology is remorse or contrition. Showing that you have a real understanding that you have wronged someone, even if you don't understand the specifics of how or why.

And yet you continue to follow up your apology by outright stating you don't feel you did anything wrong, desperately trying to play the victim, and talking about how YOU don't feel you were offensive. Nowhere is there any real care or concern for the women you've offended or their viewpoint.

You went through some motions. That's not an apology, that's a form letter.

You're talking about a certain type of apology. Apologies come in different forms. There's one that you speak of, which is guilt or remorse for what you did and want to correct it and want to change that behavior of yours, so you don't repeat it.
Then there's the apology that you didn't mean to offend or cross another persons personal boundaries. But your boundaries stay the same. You didn't mean to offend someone for being who you are, but still want them to know you will respect them going forward. I shouldn't have to change who I am personally, just because someone doesn't like it. You all should understand that.
Then theres the apology to purposefully be offensive. Apologizing before you commit the offence and not care about the repercussions.

 

[CMK89]

This is my new favorite term and I cannot wait to share it with my daughters, lol. It’s totally fitting with conversations we’ve had recently about entitled men. Dictims. So good!

I don’t think you have any need to apologize. Also, the very nature of the “Show your body parts” threads invites those responses and they are welcome. It’s been a while since I’ve shared a tit pic, but any time I’ve shared one I expect to get compliments and even suggestions for future pics. Now, I often also get gross PMs from men who now assume they can dominate me or something because I’m a regular on the BDSM forum and posted tits they don’t see the difference between a submissive and their submissive. Those guys? Yeah, they can fuck right off.

Your biased towards men. You have an expectation of how they should act and be. But women can do no wrong, unless they are supporting a swm conservative. Then she gets lumped in with all the bigotry

 

[Somethingdifferent74]

I may try my hand at crafting beer again. Trying a new flavor/batch.

 

[haha_on_me]

FA-reak, can y'all knock it off, you're giving me a freaking headache arguing. It was inappropriate to say what he said, let's move on to something more or less productive, anything. Gesh!

 

[CMK89]

FA-reak, can y'all knock it off, you're giving me a freaking headache arguing. It was inappropriate to say what he said, let's move on to something more or less productive, anything. Gesh!

We can, I'm just not going to ignore the bias behavior anymore. If it gets me banned, so be it.

 

[chame1eon]

FA-reak, can y'all knock it off, you're giving me a freaking headache arguing. It was inappropriate to say what he said, let's move on to something more or less productive, anything. Gesh!

I'm thinking I'm gonna get a glass of wine.

 

[haha_on_me]

We can, I'm just not going to ignore the bias behavior anymore. If it gets me banned, so be it.

Grow up then and try getting thicker skin.

 

[haha_on_me]

I'm thinking I'm gonna get a glass of wine.

I'll pour