What Are You Thinking? Continued 14

It's OK. I don't bother with them often anyway. I also started taking birth control in hopes that it will help with some of my mood issues. I've never taken any of it before, so I don't know if it affects that or desire or what? No idea.
Prolly different for everyone....
I lost my desire while I was on depo....
But currently, there is a out a week to 3 days that I am completely ravenous and I'm satisfiable.... Currently... But that's without the depo haven't had it in years
 
While I agree about the society coment, I find that women tend to interpret that as not masculine/hot enough (particularly sub 30 age). Women who would never have looked at me twice then, now think what a good catch I would have been. That said, I caught an unbelievably good one, so it's all good (note I always dated to marry, so I'm an odd duck all around).
I have a Lego collection, my hobbies are carpentry & creatively setting fires, and while no one would ever accuse me of having a limited vocabulary, my favorite word happens to be fuck. Despite the great cleavage, in many ways I'm not particularly feminine, But I somehow still attracted a mate. It's about balance.

And I will say this, my spouse and I are high school sweethearts. What attracted me to him was, of course, his looks to begin with, but also that he was funny & very kind. He never fit the jock stereotype, never bullied, very inclusive, loves kids and went to college for elementary Ed, he begged for children (I initially didn't want any) and is an all around slap in the face to the alpha bullshit you hear these days. Liked that I felt both safe in his arms, and never feared that he's use that strength to hurt me, intentionally. I'm grateful that in many ways our son is just like him, and as a result does not want for female attention attention.

Just my perspective on the topic.
 
Nope you missed the point. Many women interpret kindness and caring as weakness. They are looking for the alpha who they interpret as the potential good provider/protector. You can tell me all you want what women say (also I suspect you may know a biased subset), you haven't tried to date one as a male.
You haven't raised daughters who have had to be around men in the dating pool who buy into this Alpha bullshit. I'm biased, but my daughters are stunning. They got the best of both of our genes. By your definition, they're both in serious relationships with beta males who succeeded in capturing their attention where the "Andrew-Tate-esque-alphas" failed miserably.

I'll just have to agree to disagree.
 
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You haven't raised daughters who have had to be around men in the dating pool who buy into this Alpha bullshit. I'm biased, but my daughters are stunning. They got the best of both of our genes. By your definition, they're both in serious relationships with beta males who succeeded in capturing their attention where the "Andrew-Tate-esque-alphas" failed miserably.

I'll just have to agree to disagree.
Yip. My gorgeous daughter is married to a young man who thinks the sun rises and sets with her.
I was raised by a man who wanted the 1950’s perfect housewife. My momma was the breadwinner. It made my dad kind of an asshole. My brothers are, to varying degrees, either opposite or just like my dad.

I am not, nor will I ever be, the perfect housewife. But I am the caring loving person my mom raised.
 
This debate is a shit show but I am committed to finishing it.
I feel like skittles and m&m’s well organized and eaten separately would help but now I’m thinking gummies are the answer.
Pour skittles in one bowl, m&m’s in another. Don’t look when reaching in and grabbing several. Eat. Enjoy. Don’t overthink it.
 
I can’t stop thinking about a social media post I saw this morning from a doctor who said she sees so many men survive illnesses that so many women don’t, because the men have women who will help care for them, when women are not given the same support. It reminded me of a study a while back about women being 6x more likely to have their male partner leave them when they’re sick. Also, how that has happened to me, twice.
That is just awful and I’m sorry that happened to you.

Yes, completely agree. My spouse has been through two types of unrelated cancer, and a myriad of other medical issues. The people most impressed with the longevity of our marriage through it all, are always men.

My spouse is, in general, a very good person, but when it comes to me he's a bit negligent. After my surgery last month I opted to go to a skilled nursing facility for 7 days rather than have him care for me, because the mental load of having to direct him, remind him, ask for help, was just too much. The argument is made that men just aren't as nurturing. I call bullshit. There are wonderful, caring, nurturing men out there. We just need to do a better job as a society and as parents, to encourage & celebrate those qualities in men.
I absolutely agree. It starts with all of us, what we learned at home, and how we conduct our own personal lives.

I am eternally grateful that I had a dad who was simultaneously one of the kindest, smartest, most capable, generous, self sufficient, and nurturing people I have ever encountered and that my mom adored him for it. As ex military he could hold his own and as a CPA he was the primary breadwinner, but he was vocal that he happily would have been a stay at home dad when we were little. He adored being a girl dad - taking care of us, supporting us, teaching us, and letting us learn from our mistakes safely. It absolutely set my mental model for what a good human, parent, and partner should be.

Not everyone has to be nurturing to be a good person, but everyone who is should be celebrated for it regardless of gender.

I really hope you will be able to get ready for returning to the world. Even if it's what I call "people bathing." Just immersing yourself in a crowd or at a coffee shop, just to be around people. Sometimes that is a therapy all its own.
That's a really good idea. I get overwhelmed easily but I could start small and see how I go.
I can’t second this more enthusiastically! I often appreciate the energy of people and groups without having the desire or time to interact.

I used to go to coffee shops to study and do homework in college. I’d put on earphones with classical music so I could focus and sit and work for hours. Just having the humanity and activity around me kept me awake, productive, and happy. I would leave so much more settled and mentally upbeat than if I had only studied alone in my apartment. A quiet library is a middle ground where it feels more connected than alone, but not as energizing as other public spaces (which is perfect at times.)

I think having my dog and my friends to chat with on the daily go a LONG way towards my happiness.
My bunny is always one of the highlights of day and I talk to him a lot 😍

Because you’re not a psycho 😂

While I agree about the society coment, I find that women tend to interpret that as not masculine/hot enough (particularly sub 30 age). Women who would never have looked at me twice then, now think what a good catch I would have been. That said, I caught an unbelievably good one, so it's all good (note I always dated to marry, so I'm an odd duck all around).
I think that’s a pretty large generalization and it will clearly vary by experience. I know maybe one person when I was younger that would have fallen into your description. I’d argue that perceiving kindness and caring as not masculine is a fantastic indicator that they’re probably not compatible with people with those characteristics and would thank them for making it so easy to weed them out as potential partners.
 
Yip. My gorgeous daughter is married to a young man who thinks the sun rises and sets with her.
I was raised by a man who wanted the 1950’s perfect housewife. My momma was the breadwinner. It made my dad kind of an asshole. My brothers are, to varying degrees, either opposite or just like my dad.

I am not, nor will I ever be, the perfect housewife. But I am the caring loving person my mom raised.
Even at 18 I was self aware enough to let him know that a great housewife & home maker was just not in my DNA. He loved me just as was, and to this day buys me power tools over flowers for my birthday.

My mom is brilliant & ambitious. My dad is traditional in a subconscious way, he didn't know how to be an active partner & parent. I don't think he thought it would bother him if my mom was the breadwinner, until it happened. He used to joke that if she made more than him that he would retire and be a house husband. Then she did make more and he resented the hell out of it. It was as though his self worth was attached to his paycheck. I still think it's weird.
 
Even at 18 I was self aware enough to let him know that a great housewife & home maker was just not in my DNA. He loved me just as was, and to this day buys me power tools over flowers for my birthday.
I get tractors and welders :D
My mom is brilliant & ambitious. My dad is traditional in a subconscious way, he didn't know how to be an active partner & parent. I don't think he thought it would bother him if my mom was the breadwinner, until it happened. He used to joke that if she made more than him that he would retire and be a house husband. Then she did make more and he resented the hell out of it. It was as though his self worth was attached to his paycheck. I still think it's weird.
Agreed.
 
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