Well, This Was Fun

[SimonDoom]

I have no clue how it all works because I don't do any of it, but I thought you could only vote once from each IP, at least as anon, but some people said there's ways around that.

The up voting isn't as effective because it seems a one bomb does more damage than a five helps. I do think they're swept less than the bombs though. That can easily be seen in the way contest winning stories are now routinely in the 4.9's which with no offense meant to any authors is too much. The sweeps are having way too much impact on contests the last couple years and that's what the people with agendas count on now.

This is my impression as well. Contest stories seem to be scored way too high -- higher than non-contest stories of similar quality. I think it's the result of a relatively small voting window (especially if people submit stories late in the window, which some have suggested they do to get a higher score), and the seeming randomness of down-voting, up-voting, and sweeps.

I had a story in the Valentines' contest at under 4.3 -- with a high vote total, mind you -- that jumped all the way up to something like 4.82 after the sweeps, and it still was nowhere near a winner. Since then it's fallen back to around 4.72, which is probably around where it would have been outside a contest.

I am amazed that people care so much. I feel glad for the winners, and I'm happy to see them get the recognition for their work, but, really, anybody trying to manipulate results in a Lit contest has a serious problem with keeping perspective.

 

[NotWise]

I am amazed that people care so much. I feel glad for the winners, and I'm happy to see them get the recognition for their work, but, really, anybody trying to manipulate results in a Lit contest has a serious problem with keeping perspective.

I agree with you, but you shouldn't be surprised when you find people don't share your perspective.

 

[lovecraft68]

This is my impression as well. Contest stories seem to be scored way too high -- higher than non-contest stories of similar quality. I think it's the result of a relatively small voting window (especially if people submit stories late in the window, which some have suggested they do to get a higher score), and the seeming randomness of down-voting, up-voting, and sweeps.

I had a story in the Valentines' contest at under 4.3 -- with a high vote total, mind you -- that jumped all the way up to something like 4.82 after the sweeps, and it still was nowhere near a winner. Since then it's fallen back to around 4.72, which is probably around where it would have been outside a contest.

I am amazed that people care so much. I feel glad for the winners, and I'm happy to see them get the recognition for their work, but, really, anybody trying to manipulate results in a Lit contest has a serious problem with keeping perspective.

Back when I first started entering contests-My first was winter 2011- winners used to be around 4.87ish 4.82 was generally anough for third. In fact I placed third in two contests with a 4.82. in March 2014 I placed first in Earth day with a 4.84 (not a lot of entries it was the last Earth day, now its April fools)

Now 4.87's are left out in the cold. Also back then jumps of .30 were unheard of and now people are getting .80 and higher.

if the sweeps are cutting that deep it means the trolling has increased, but as ws discussed before that's why people started putting things in the wrong category or tossing in things they knew would get them bombs, keep getting bombs, keep getting swept, sweeps cut deep....you're 4.1 becomes a 4.89....

I entered April Fools last year because I promised a long time reader I would post a certain story for them so tossed it in there. Otherwise I don't bother any more. I have six W's....they're worthless other than the money the site sent wich I donated each time to Parl.

 

[ChloeTzang]

.....I am amazed that people care so much. I feel glad for the winners, and I'm happy to see them get the recognition for their work, but, really, anybody trying to manipulate results in a Lit contest has a serious problem with keeping perspective.

No kidding. I mean, I'm competitive and I like to see my stories up there obviously and I wouldn't say no to another W or two, but the whole rigging and manipulation thing defeats the entire purpose of throwing my stories in there - which is to see how genuine readers who vote rank my stories. And the sweeps are a little, shall we say, subjective but how could they not be.

But this thing with Bebop's story is actually rather funny. That troll was definitely an amateur. It'd look with its head on my wall.

Juuuuuust waiting for it to come closer and pop it's head up again

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/41/29/21/4129217adbe540f769d9b5e54098cc6b--mel.jpg

 

[Captainnumnuts]

I think, giving trolls like that twat any consideration, especially trying to figure out their motivation, is a waste of energy.

They'll do what they want to do, and the tools to prevent them doing it aren't in our hands.

As much as there's a measure of frustration, knowing one person's fans are always going to manipulate their scores to keep them at the top of the slush pile, there's also a freeing sense of 'Eh, then who gives a fuck'.

End of the day, I don't spend weeks of my life writing for anyone other myself, and I don't care about money. I fucking love writing, it makes me happy. Even if someone else reads it, I can't see their face, and I can't read their mind. The joy comes from living the story as I write it. Everything else, trolls that fuck my scores, or prizes out of reach, is all just... noise, after the ride's finished.

The finished story is like a photograph of a movie I got to live, that I'll probably only ever look at a couple of times, before moving onto the next one.

Sometimes my spelling and nonconforming punctuations are intentional. The bots are at work looking for certain code words and such. No matter what people say or think, they are indeed at work. Tricking us. Their creators laughing.

Move fwd w/your story however you think you must.

It's a signature tic, used in place of having a personality.

That type of signature can have a way of taking on a life of it's on. Every glitch or sig has an unintended advantage or weakness within it.

 

[Alice_Rosaleen]

I'm only competitive enough to write the best story I can for a contest's theme in a way that's true to my style.

 

[Handley_Page]

Juuuuuust waiting for it to come closer and pop it's head up again

You wanna use my H&H ?

 

[Bebop3]

Just got this email from the troll:

---------------
Thank yoU mate, for going to the aUthor's hangoUt. I can't do it, I can't make a name, I might have to stop fUcking with the site if I do. YoU were the perfect little mUppet for me. Weak, vUlnerable, Unsure of yoUrself. I wondered who I coUld pick to do what I coUldn't, it had to be yoU. All the others don't post in the forUms or don't care aboUt trolling enoUgh to wine aboUt it. YoU've done more harm by going to the aUthor's hangoUt than I ever coUld by fUcking with people. Poor Alice_Rosaleen. Now she felt she needed to defend herself and now she qeUstions herself, her win carries a asterisk, bUt all the wins do. I voted for her, theravenfox, kethandra, and a few others, though only theravenfox jumped high enoUgh to win and Alice_Rosaleen stayed above where I started with her. And lots of 2s, 3s, and 4s were pUt added by me and I know the website didn't catch all of them. Thanks again, mate, for the damage yoU've done with yoUr whining. And Tefler is the best, that is trUe, do a shoUt to him, I'll even help yoUr score if yoU do. YoU see some of the votes I pUmped Up to give false hope and others I did so they woUld win. Fare-thee-well, my yoUr no longer Useful to Us.
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It's amusing how these cheetos finger-tipped basement dwellers believe that they are Machiavelli when they are barely literate buffoons spending their time trying to manipulate something as meaningless as votes on a free erotic story site.

It's more sad than anything else. Hopefully it will give him/her a feeling of accomplishment. It seems as though that might be desperately needed.

 

[NotWise]

Huh. I wonder just what it is that Tefler has to do with this.

 

[JasonClearwater]

Just got this email from the troll:

It's amusing how these cheetos finger-tipped basement dwellers believe that they are Machiavelli when they are barely literate buffoons spending their time trying to manipulate something as meaningless as votes on a free erotic story site.

It's more sad than anything else. Hopefully it will give him/her a feeling of accomplishment. It seems as though that might be desperately needed.

"Hi honey, what did you do today?"
"OMG, MOM, can't you knock before you come in?"
"I'm sorry sweetie, it's just that the smell coming from your room made me think you might have died."
"OMG, MOM, you're so EMBARRASSING!"
"Well, sweetie, you are thirty five and still living with us. Your father and I were wondering when you might get a job, and consider moving out--"
"MOM! GET OUT! I'M DOING IMPORTANT STUFF THAT u WOuLDN'T uNDERSTAND!!"

 

[Bebop3]

"Hi honey, what did you do today?"
"OMG, MOM, can't you knock before you come in?"
"I'm sorry sweetie, it's just that the smell coming from your room made me think you might have died."
"OMG, MOM, you're so EMBARRASSING!"
"Well, sweetie, you are thirty five and still living with us. Your father and I were wondering when you might get a job, and consider moving out--"
"MOM! GET OUT! I'M DOING IMPORTANT STUFF THAT u WOuLDN'T uNDERSTAND!!"

That's funny as hell, but I really shouldn't have said anything about the person himself. I fucked up in that regard. He clearly has issues and needs compassion more than scorn.

I can't even imagine how fucked up your life has to be to think that is a productive use of your time or somehow fun and amusing. It's more sad than anything else.

 

[SimonDoom]

I agree with you, but you shouldn't be surprised when you find people don't share your perspective.

You're right, I shouldn't be, but I am. I'm a competitive person and I understand wanting to win. If I won a contest, I'm sure I'd be tickled. I admire people who have won. But the stakes here are so low, especially for story fans, that it's really weird to me that people would take the time and effort to engage in shenanigans to boost a story's chances.

 

[SimonDoom]

No kidding. I mean, I'm competitive and I like to see my stories up there obviously and I wouldn't say no to another W or two, but the whole rigging and manipulation thing defeats the entire purpose of throwing my stories in there - which is to see how genuine readers who vote rank my stories. And the sweeps are a little, shall we say, subjective but how could they not be.

But this thing with Bebop's story is actually rather funny. That troll was definitely an amateur. It'd look with its head on my wall.

Juuuuuust waiting for it to come closer and pop it's head up again

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/41/29/21/4129217adbe540f769d9b5e54098cc6b--mel.jpg

I'll be waiting with the hammer.

 

[SimonDoom]

Just got this email from the troll:

---------------
Thank yoU mate, for going to the aUthor's hangoUt. I can't do it, I can't make a name, I might have to stop fUcking with the site if I do. YoU were the perfect little mUppet for me. Weak, vUlnerable, Unsure of yoUrself. I wondered who I coUld pick to do what I coUldn't, it had to be yoU. All the others don't post in the forUms or don't care aboUt trolling enoUgh to wine aboUt it. YoU've done more harm by going to the aUthor's hangoUt than I ever coUld by fUcking with people. Poor Alice_Rosaleen. Now she felt she needed to defend herself and now she qeUstions herself, her win carries a asterisk, bUt all the wins do. I voted for her, theravenfox, kethandra, and a few others, though only theravenfox jumped high enoUgh to win and Alice_Rosaleen stayed above where I started with her. And lots of 2s, 3s, and 4s were pUt added by me and I know the website didn't catch all of them. Thanks again, mate, for the damage yoU've done with yoUr whining. And Tefler is the best, that is trUe, do a shoUt to him, I'll even help yoUr score if yoU do. YoU see some of the votes I pUmped Up to give false hope and others I did so they woUld win. Fare-thee-well, my yoUr no longer Useful to Us.
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It's amusing how these cheetos finger-tipped basement dwellers believe that they are Machiavelli when they are barely literate buffoons spending their time trying to manipulate something as meaningless as votes on a free erotic story site.

It's more sad than anything else. Hopefully it will give him/her a feeling of accomplishment. It seems as though that might be desperately needed.

Do you think when he reads this out loud he shouts when he pronounces the "U"s?

 

[JasonClearwater]

I can't even imagine how fucked up your life has to be to think that is a productive use of your time or somehow fun and amusing. It's more sad than anything else.

It's right up there with posting on r/TheRedPill and eating Tide Pods.

 

[RejectReality]

The mustache twirling couldn't be more obvious.

He'll break character before long.

He always does.

And apparently doesn't realize what data the comments store.

 

[BiscuitHammer]

Sweet baby boogaloo, this kid has more issues than Reader's Digest.

AND he thinks he's Zhuge Liang. Hard to not picture him in his secret base(ment), surrounded by empty Monster cans, sticky tissue and screaming 'JUST AS PLANNED!!!' at his screen.

I wonder if he wears an Anonymous mask while he does this silly crap...

 

[Tefler]

Why warn or punish the source of site wide harassment

This has nothing to do with me and I have trolls I have to deal with myself. Sounds more like a false flag operation to me, by the guy that's trolling my comments for the last 2 years.

Think about it for a moment... The original poster's story is in the "Romance" category, while all my work is in the "Sci-fi" category. What possible reason would I have for trying to sabotage the score on Bebop3's story? It wouldn't benefit me in any way whatsoever.

I've always been supportive with other writers, only writing friendly comments after their stories when I've enjoyed their writing.

I'm too busy with my own work to waste time trolling anyone else's...

Tefler

 

[lovecraft68]

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[lovecraft68]

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[Kethandra]

Hey LC

Whoever this troll is, he did stuff my ballot box. Five days into voting, I had 22 votes. I posted on the contest support chat, whining about it, hoping for a enough to qualify with 25, even though my score was in the 4.7s.
Boom, within 48 hours my vote total hit 97 even after a few small sweeps, and the score was 4.92.
Then came the final sweep and I was back down in the 4.7s with 23 votes, essentially where we started. That sweep removed over 75% of my votes, and I think it was right to do so, though it sure seemed odd when it was happening.
So the troll seemed to accomplish little more than to make the rollercoaster ride more up and down, without changing (at least my) results.
I am guessing I got selected because I had a decent score and few votes, making it easier to influence.
[Personal attacks, accusations/insults against other Literotica authors, and trolling prohibited per our AH Forum Rules]

 

[lovecraft68]

Hey LC

Whoever this troll is, he did stuff my ballot box. Five days into voting, I had 22 votes. I posted on the contest support chat, whining about it, hoping for a enough to qualify with 25, even though my score was in the 4.7s.
Boom, within 48 hours my vote total hit 97 even after a few small sweeps, and the score was 4.92.
Then came the final sweep and I was back down in the 4.7s with 23 votes, essentially where we started. That sweep removed over 75% of my votes, and I think it was right to do so, though it sure seemed odd when it was happening.
So the troll seemed to accomplish little more than to make the rollercoaster ride more up and down, without changing (at least my) results.
I am guessing I got selected because I had a decent score and few votes, making it easier to influence.

The roller coaster is part of the plan, hard for trolls to see where the real standings are when you're yo yo up and down. The hope is the sweep goes too far on the ones and not enough on fives or they're setting you up for trolls

Point is this was all denied vehemently by the site a couple years back including by RR who thinks in this case its real

That's all I'm going to say because this thread will be closed soon for the audacity of discussing the BS that goes on in contests and the bigger BS of the site's refusal to acknowledge it.

 

[RejectReality]

Got a bit of faulty memory going on there?

One of the very first conversations we had was about someone dropping buttloads of fives they knew wouldn't stick — not to actually influence the contest, but to make it look bad when they were all swept.

It's painfully obvious this is the same shit, different asshole.

Same results as well. No change to the contest, but the contests, contestants, and winners are all getting accusations thrown at them.

If multi-voting was part of your most recent attack on the contests a couple of years back, I don't remember it. The whole foundation of that was "It's cheating without actually cheating." If that's not the one you're talking about, I honestly can't keep up with the myriad of theories you've presented over the years.

The roller coaster is part of the plan, hard for trolls to see where the real standings are when you're yo yo up and down. The hope is the sweep goes too far on the ones and not enough on fives or they're setting you up for trolls

Point is this was all denied vehemently by the site a couple years back including by RR who thinks in this case its real

That's all I'm going to say because this thread will be closed soon for the audacity of discussing the BS that goes on in contests and the bigger BS of the site's refusal to acknowledge it.

 

[loquere]

Just got this email from the troll:

---------------
Thank yoU mate, for going to the aUthor's hangoUt. I can't do it, I can't make a name, I might have to stop fUcking with the site if I do. YoU were the perfect little mUppet for me. Weak, vUlnerable, Unsure of yoUrself. I wondered who I coUld pick to do what I coUldn't, it had to be yoU. All the others don't post in the forUms or don't care aboUt trolling enoUgh to wine aboUt it. YoU've done more harm by going to the aUthor's hangoUt than I ever coUld by fUcking with people. Poor Alice_Rosaleen. Now she felt she needed to defend herself and now she qeUstions herself, her win carries a asterisk, bUt all the wins do. I voted for her, theravenfox, kethandra, and a few others, though only theravenfox jumped high enoUgh to win and Alice_Rosaleen stayed above where I started with her. And lots of 2s, 3s, and 4s were pUt added by me and I know the website didn't catch all of them. Thanks again, mate, for the damage yoU've done with yoUr whining. And Tefler is the best, that is trUe, do a shoUt to him, I'll even help yoUr score if yoU do. YoU see some of the votes I pUmped Up to give false hope and others I did so they woUld win. Fare-thee-well, my yoUr no longer Useful to Us.
--------------


It's amusing how these cheetos finger-tipped basement dwellers believe that they are Machiavelli when they are barely literate buffoons spending their time trying to manipulate something as meaningless as votes on a free erotic story site.

It's more sad than anything else. Hopefully it will give him/her a feeling of accomplishment. It seems as though that might be desperately needed.

What's going on with his or her over usage of the capital "U"?

 

[TxRad]

As I've said dozens of times before. It is an easy situation to solve. Even the troll said so. Do away with anonymous. He said he could not have done what he says he did with a user ID. Anonymous was probably a good thing way back when the site started. There is no reason for it today.

It ain't going to happen but it would solve so many problems and make it far easier to clean up the bullshit.