Welcoming

[ArcheKlaine]

Hah, good luck with that. With a bit of practice, you'll be there in no time.
Also, 200get.

 

[Mirror_tan]

Heh, glad I could help. Oh and talking like that is tough for long periods of time, so singing in regular falsetto helps you speak like that longer, so I highly reccomend learning a few Queen or Radiohead songs so you have a legitimate excuse to sing up in the high pitches.

I know "Creep" by Radiohead at heart, for example, as well as...well I really like Queen, so I know quite a few of their songs..

 

[Hannah_tan]

The only queen song I have is 'killer queen' (!) but really, does falsetto tone help strengthen your voice? Because I know that the girl tone is supposed to be just under your falsetto, plus 'resonance', 'croak' and 'pitch' modifications, with different tone emphasis.

 

[EuphoriaZ]

Heya, i ish a /b/tard. someone just invited me here. I was the OP in a thread asking how to give a blowjob, being as i naver have (lesbian). I have a buncha TG friends, of all types and such, so here i am =P

 

[ArcheKlaine]

The more people adding to conversation the better, I say. Welcome to the thread.

 

[Mirror_tan]

Yes, it's under the falsetto. The part that's strained is the part that stretches the normally deep resonating male tone, preventing it from vibrating. This is stressful, and practicing falsetto should get you more used to that tightness at the back of the throat.

Once you've got that down, and can talk without the deep resonance, it's about finding the right pitch, which is lower. Then getting the inflection and vocab down.

 

[Pleinair]

Hi there, I just saw a link to this very thread from /b/.

As boring as they may be, it's storytime again~

I'm 19, living in Ohio. I'm a nerdy-kind of boy who, since he was 6 years old, had wished he could be a girl instead.

In fact, one of my earliest elementary school memories involves me just randomly raising my hand, and actually saying that.

Since I was around 11-12 or so, when I first got onto the internet, I've always told people I was a girl. Always had a name, always chose female characters in MMOs, etc, etc. This continues to this day, except on /b/ where I just tell them I'm a trap.

Really, it was only recently that I had started to crossdress, and I find myself enjoying it. I like wearing girl's clothing...something about it just feels right.

I'm pretty much closeted, because my mother is an overly-protective, paranoid woman, but I have told a few of my closest friends about my desire to abandon masculinity, (one doesn't approve, but wouldn't care if I did, one doesn't approve, and would hate me if I did, one simply doesn't care one way or another) as well as telling my sister about it. (approves, is supportive about it) I actually have told my mother about it, but whenever I bring it up she always mentions something along the lines of either: A.) Me being on drugs. Or B.)THOSE FAGGOTS ON THE INTERNET PUTTING IDEAS INTO YOUR HEAD. Of course, I don't do drugs, and I've been having feelings since I was very young that something just wasn't right...

But anyway, hay sup, and I'll enjoy my stay here, since you're a decent, trap-supporting group.

 

[Hannah_tan]

Yes, it's under the falsetto. The part that's strained is the part that stretches the normally deep resonating male tone, preventing it from vibrating. This is stressful, and practicing falsetto should get you more used to that tightness at the back of the throat.

Once you've got that down, and can talk without the deep resonance, it's about finding the right pitch, which is lower. Then getting the inflection and vocab down.

I am aware that resonance plays into it, but how does one control it? Where is that quality in my voice, and how can I affect it? I cant get in a ton of good practice right now, its winter in ohio and because
A.) its cold
B.) its dry
C.) its cold
and
D.) I am still getting over congestion

I can practice, I want to have all my stuff down for practicing beforehand.

Also, welcome to our thread, and enjoy your stay. For the record, Archie is GIC-tan in the email field in /b/, I am who i am here, and so is mirror tan. if you are going to seriously come out to your mother though, are you on drugs? if not (I don't think you are) tell her so. Honesty. If she thinks its /b/ (/b/ is much faster than 'those fags on the net' and honestly, who else would she be talking about ) insist otherwise, and present evidence.

 

[Mirror_tan]

Hmm...well, go into falsetto (when you're feeling better), and then hold that pitch. Slowly reduce the volume until you're not making any noise without changing the pitch. That tightness in the back of the throat is where you want to be as the tightness removes the deep resonance that is in the male post-pubescent voice. Now here's the tough part...Now you want to drop the pitch but hold that tightness, by relaxing the vocal chords towards the front, while keeping the longer vocal chords at the back (well...it's relative location, but that's what it feels like), so instead of in the high pitch range, you're within a normal speaking range, while keeping the resonating chords taut at the back. Once you're comfortable with this (you should hear the deep resonance disappear) you may want to only slightly modulate your pitch to be slightly high so it sounds like a girl more. Girls do have a slightly higher pitch, but not by much. After that, then you want to focus on imitating speech patterns, such as volume, vocabulary and intonation...I haven't mastered that quite perfectly...

 

[stlpenguin]

Hey, girls.

Just wanted to pipe in with a few comments, but I should probably flash my credentials first. I'm 27, married, MTF crossdresser. I don't generally feel misplaced in my body, as much as I am simply disappointed to be a member of the male gender. (much the same way a sports player would be disappointed to be on the record-setting LAST place team) I dress mostly for a combination of fetish / to feel attractive. It is sexually exciting for me, but it's not the only reason I dress. I dare say, I get turned on by it BECAUSE it makes me feel pretty and desirable. I won't deny being curious about other aspects... I would love to be a woman. I'm just not fully committed to my femininity enough to take those steps. I wish luck and happiness to those of you who truly are dysphoric.

That said :

1) I feel like a n00b asking this, but what's /b/? Can you please provide me a link? It seems to have a good rep as a resources for people of our persuasion.

2) I can certainly sympathize with many of your beginnings. I, also, was the loner-kid who got picked on for never liking sports or any of that other guy-stuff. In fact, I've been saying since I was about 15, "I'm a man, not a 'guy'". I took it upon myself to define "guy" to mean the knuckle-dragging, farting, burping, womanizing, fighting, angry, territorial apes that give our gender a bad name. This was long before I ever identified myself as a crossdresser. I think it might be a common story.

3) I very much appreciate you holding this dialogue for the rest of us to view - I admit openly to trolling this board very often. I rarely post, but I read it at least 4 times a week. I found your discussion very helpful, as I often have doubts about this part of my life (I was brought up strict catholic... guilt is ingrained thoroughly.) It's good to know that issues I think about day to day are thought about by others, also. Good to know I'm not alone.

Best of luck and love to you all.

-- Penguin

 

[Hannah_tan]

just quoting to show who I am talking about

Don't be a stranger, this thread is a wonderful place, you know.

Anyway, /b/ is not necessarily a place with resources... more like a place where little things like morals dont matter. Don't get me wrong, I don't find tg immoral, but others do, and /b/, because of its moral-less air, tends to be a very very accepting place for TG folk (traps, as they say). Many people have come to call it 'the asshole of the internet'.

 

[stlpenguin]

Oh, I'm by no means a stranger - I just don't often pipe in. Most times, I'm content to read rather than write. I tend to ramble, so I stop myself from cramping up the internet by not hitting the "reply" button.

But seriously, what is /b/? I have no clue what site this is in reference to.

-- Penguin

 

[ArcheKlaine]

/b/ refers to 4chan.org's /b/-random section. I'd recommend reading up on the place before actually going there if you do. It's called the asshole of the internet for a reason.

 

[Mirror_tan]

A few helpful quotes to describe /b/ would be that it's "an ocean of piss". It's a combination of the worst of the internet rolled into one. (Fake/Facetious(?)) racism abounds, (i.e. W.A.R. comics (although the terrible grammar and spelling is often pointed out, also 'Bix Nood' and 'Around Snacks Never Relax!')) atrocious pornography (i.e. 'shitting dicknipples' (Exactly what it sounds like), Japanophilia to outrageous degrees (called "weaboo"), 'Rule #34' (i.e. drawing cherished childhood or innocent cartoon figures doing nasty things) and nonsense (i.e. "desu" and "so i herd u liek mudkips" and "8U") is completely rampant. People also have long rambly confessions of often incest or bestiality of questionable believability. Even illegal...as some would say, "van-able" material can be be found briefly by renegade posters who quickly are banned. People also post MS Paint Relationship threads, or such and talk mostly about how they are social retards with terrible sex lives.

If hell was a homepage, the first link would go to 4chan's /b/.

More or less. I still like it.

 

[stlpenguin]

A few helpful quotes to describe /b/ would be that it's "an ocean of piss". It's a combination of the worst of the internet rolled into one. (Fake/Facetious(?)) racism abounds, (i.e. W.A.R. comics (although the terrible grammar and spelling is often pointed out, also 'Bix Nood' and 'Around Snacks Never Relax!')) atrocious pornography (i.e. 'shitting dicknipples' (Exactly what it sounds like), Japanophilia to outrageous degrees (called "weaboo"), 'Rule #34' (i.e. drawing cherished childhood or innocent cartoon figures doing nasty things) and nonsense (i.e. "desu" and "so i herd u liek mudkips" and "8U") is completely rampant. People also have long rambly confessions of often incest or bestiality of questionable believability. Even illegal...as some would say, "van-able" material can be be found briefly by renegade posters who quickly are banned. People also post MS Paint Relationship threads, or such and talk mostly about how they are social retards with terrible sex lives.

If hell was a homepage, the first link would go to 4chan's /b/.

More or less. I still like it.

Well.

That ends that bit of curiosity for me.

 

[ArcheKlaine]

Wow, that's probably the best-written summation of /b/ I've seen in a long time.

Most people stick around 4chan for the subculture though. More inside jokes than you can shake a stick at.

http://wikichan.org/wiki/Memes

 

[Hannah_tan]

Well.

That ends that bit of curiosity for me.

Yea. Sorry I didn't link you, but I didn't want to be the one responsible for corrupting someone else unprepared. Mirror-tan pretty much summed it up. No rules, as long as nothing illegal gets posted, you can be the biggest racist sexist bigot, and you will just blend in.

Its still worth it for the trap threads and the subculture, as Archie said. Habeeb it!

 

[Hannah_tan]

So, when I decide to come out, should I trim up the front and have bangs, or should I keep the evened out all around look?