Welcoming

[naughtyinsilk]

So out of curiosity, since I'm very vague on this...

If a straight guy finds very effeminate guys, in the right situation, arousing, what the hell does that make the straight guy?

Besides confused?

Flexible and having the ability to find a look more stimulating than you maybe willong to admit.

I do understand, I do find some crossdressers very sexy because of their feminie beauty rather than thinking of them as pure male. They would do nothing for me in their masculine clothes. But some like Fallen Angel Slut, are very hot

 

[WombatimusPrime]

I just keep worring that when I do, my relationships will be ruined...

Oh, also, I know you can get a change on birth certificates, but how does it work for diplomas? Kinda embarassing to show my diploma, if it has my boy name on it.

Out of curiosity, which gender do you find more attractive? How do you look at yourself?

It's so funny trying to define the lines when it comes to the human psyche, cause it's like trying... like... Well like trying to organize sand into groups during a sandstorm.

 

[Hannah_tan]

Out of curiosity, which gender do you find more attractive? How do you look at yourself?

It's so funny trying to define the lines when it comes to the human psyche, cause it's like trying... like... Well like trying to organize sand into groups during a sandstorm.

from my life as a male, females were always glorified. Honestly, Neither gender has me sold, all I do know is that the "typical" description of hotness per gender doesn't do much for me. (That is, buff built males, or slutty tall busty females)

Cute is the big thing for me, gender blind, if the person is cute they have me sold.

 

[ArcheKlaine]

It's funny, guys usually aren't for me, but just certain ones have the (usually feminine) figure that drives me nuts. Hannah, you drive me nuts, you're adorable. :V
On the female side, I tend to be a lot less shallow than most other guys would be, especially with the right personality.
If a person has the personality, they're hot to me no matter what. Glasses and long, straight hair drive me wild too. Which, on a tangent, I really need to grow my hair out differently. Gotta stop cutting my bangs so I can style it differently. (This is coming from someone who's worn his hair the same way since he grew hair on his head at age 3.)

 

[Hannah_tan]

. Hannah, you drive me nuts, you're adorable. :V

Aww! ^_^

Thanks for the compliment!

I evalutated my face.. aside from my nose, it is pretty andrognous(sp?) so with one of those FFS surgeries, I should be fine that way.As a side note, /b/ has a thread at the moment too, but who knows how long that will last.

 

[WombatimusPrime]

Ah so neither one of you really digs normal lookin guys huh? Well, that's sorta a shame for some people.

 

[Hannah_tan]

now now, normal means different things to different people. What I meant was that, even before I identified as TS, Playboy-esque girls never did anything for me (got me called queeri n 8th grade no less) but on the fliip sie of the coin, built guys really dont do itfor me either.

When a girl calls a guy cute, it usually makes me wince, Nine out of ten girls misuse the word cute nine out of ten times. Most guys aren't cute. Handsom? Yea, sure, I can see that. But cute guys are quite rarer. Gonna catch a shower real fast, I'll be back in an hour or so

 

[ArcheKlaine]

I can like a guy with a more masculine build, but more feminine guys are really attractive to me.
On a side note, how did you evaluate your face? I thought about the same issue all day today. I have no idea what to look at. I tend to get the short end of the stick with hormones, so I wouldn't be surprised if I end up having a decidedly masculine face. :x

 

[Hannah_tan]

How square is your chin? Moreover, follow your chin along your jaw; is that rounded? Square facial features (from what I have read) have a more masculine appearance, where rounder jaws/jawlines equate to female. The browline has somthing to do with it too, but I can't remember what. Anyway, my face fits those criteria, and the only real issues are my shoulders are a bit broad, and my nose is a bit big for a girl. The nose can be fixed, and if every other sign says girl, they will go with girl most likely. (my hands are big too, but they are soft and feminine, so they pass, if not a bit weird.) the problem is my feet, size 14-15. I won't be able to sport sandals without looking like bigfoot

 

[WombatimusPrime]

Big hands and big feet? Just rock the Uma Thurman look.

 

[Hannah_tan]

finding BOY shoes in my size is hard. I will have to special order my shoes, or go with the 'street' look and wear vans. Which is fine, because with the right look, street can be adorable.

funny story time!

I was at school, there is this kinda gothy guy. He always painted his nails black, except one day, he came in and they were bright pink, stark contrast to the black clothes (and hair) he had. So, this one girl had this shiny almost silver lavender nail polish. She covered up the hot pink with the less intrusive color. About the tim she was finishing up, one of our other friends came in. She decided to offer a coat of paint to him too, and he accepted. They offered to do mine, too. Problem is, parents would have killed me, questioned me, and I still am not ready for that. So, I let her paint one nail. It was sooo pretty ;_;. I was sad I couldn't let her do the rest, I just gave the excuse 'she got that one when I wasnt paying attention'. But I won't forget it

*edit forgot to say, his nails got painted pink after getting blasted the night before. He woke up with pink nails, and has no idea where they came from. He doesn't own pink nail polish.

 

[WombatimusPrime]

Hahah, I knew some guys like that when I was still in HS.

 

[Raimondin]

Welcoming myself to the forum. Heard about it by and by. Straight male with no TS or TG tendencies, I just enjoy lending support to the community and hearing and talking with people about this sort of thing.

Welcome to GLBT. We're here to answer your questions, share and hopefully make new friends. Some of us post more than others, but be sure we're reading your posts.

Have fun.

 

[ArcheKlaine]

My nails have never been painted. I maul them too much to do something like that. :x

My chin seems to have a distinct corner with a seemingly sharp acute angle. I always get the short end of the hormone stick. At least I've got my yummy hips. :x

 

[Hannah_tan]

My nails have never been painted. I maul them too much to do something like that. :x

My chin seems to have a distinct corner with a seemingly sharp acute angle. I always get the short end of the hormone stick. At least I've got my yummy hips. :x

Maul them? elaborate please?

 

[ArcheKlaine]

I bite my nails often. Not to the point where my fingers are bleeding all over the place and I have no nails, but you get the idea.

 

[Hannah_tan]

I bite my nails often. Not to the point where my fingers are bleeding all over the place and I have no nails, but you get the idea.

Thats a bad habit, you know. If you ever wanted to go 'a little bit further' you would need to stop. Mauled nails do not look feminine... at all.

 

[ArcheKlaine]

I am well aware. It's so hard to get the social norms right and still be me. But that seems more than a tollerable sacrifice.

 

[WombatimusPrime]

Be you first, then be feminine. Or rather be as feminine as YOU are... uh. That's really confusing.

 

[Hannah_tan]

True, being yourself is important, but the thing is, somthing as insignificant as chewed nails can blow your cover. if they had suspicions before, the chewed nails would be the give away.

 

[ArcheKlaine]

Yeah, that's what I figure. I'll have fun experimenting with what things I can change within my own parameters. I figure if I'm curious, I'm only my age once in my life, so it's the best time to try what I want to do. :3

I'm not so concerned about having my cover blown. I'm not so worried about people knowing I'm really male. I feel like if I get people to not notice at first glance, then I'm doing a better job than I'd previously thought I'd be able to do. I'm not too afraid to answer questions from random people, and on a college campus, a (hopefully) girlish guy in girls clothes isn't the strangest thing you'll run into...

 

[Hannah_tan]

Yeah, that's what I figure. I'll have fun experimenting with what things I can change within my own parameters. I figure if I'm curious, I'm only my age once in my life, so it's the best time to try what I want to do. :3

thats why I am glad I came to this realisation so early. I think, that my look will end up being sorta sporty/street, but I don't know what i look good in yet, so that is undecided.

 

[ArcheKlaine]

Honestly, I repress my wardrobe so much as a male that wearing a pair of shorts would get people to notice something very very different about me if they knew me somewhat well enough. That's kind of why I feel like such a change would benefit me. I feel a lot less repressed in the guise of a female. :x

 

[Hannah_tan]

Now why is that? The answer to that question is the crux of why you are even in this forum

Accutally, I am like that too.. two pairs of pants (the same kind, two pairs of em) 3 shirts. I made an effort to try different boy styles, but they all ended up leaving me feeling out of place... button down shirt over shirt... hoodies (though not as much as button down) even shorts (probably has somthing to do with feeling awkward wearing them.. boys shorts can't go above the knees at all or someone will inevitably start harassing me). I dunno, boy styles bore me to tears overall, and dont suit me.

 

[ArcheKlaine]

Bores me to tears too. I've always had a thing against wearing shirts with logos, so that eliminates about 90% of shirts to wear. I've always worn long, loose jeans, because I've really always been ashamed of my leg hair. It's not that there's loads of it, it's that my hair is brown and my skin is pale, so it really stands out. The hairs themselves are thick too, which makes shaving them take a looong time, and requires the ritual sacrifice of a disposable razor's sharpness.
(I won't even mention my arms. I shaved them a few times, but the stubble spawned so many awkward comments that it became obvious that unless I wanted to wear long sleeve shirts for the rest of my life, keeping them smoothe would not be a viable option.)

As to the 'Why' question, we can all agree that girls are afforded a lot more freedom with what they wear. And frankly, I like the human figure. Everything for guys short of wifebeaters, bike pants, and a few other things that would be strange for me to wear seems to be loose-fitting, and fairly unflattering in the presentation of the body. I figure that I don't really look too bad. With a bit of work, I think that a more feminine wardrobe would do wonders for my appearance, and could emphasize the things I'd like to be able to emphasize about my body. Not to mention I don't have to deal with constantly trying to wear clothes that try to push how cool, witty, or stylish I am, and instead I can just show any of those things myself with my own choices.
That kind of freedom is worth a lot to me.

Though in truth, I'd do it all just to be able to wear cute stockings on a daily basis. <3