We don't need no stinking badges!!!

Do you agree?

  • Yes, quit it with the arguing over labels

    Votes: 35 87.5%
  • No, it's important to enforce strict limits on label usage

    Votes: 5 12.5%

  • Total voters
    40
I think the most useful things to come out of all this has been Curious_in_Cali's short post in the other thread:

Top/bottom - What you do in action; Top acts upon, bottom is acted upon.
Dom/sub - Who you are by nature; Dominance seeks control, submission seeks surrender.

Is that any better? Would it be enough for someone not knowing anything about the dynamics to at least be a starting point for more "appropriate" terminology that would be more widely accepted within the community at least for use in discussion?


Labels are useful as a starting point, if one wishes to communicate. If one isn't particularly interested in discussing it, or if the person you're hanging out with Gets It without a lot of defining, then that's fine too.

If one orders a "burrito" in a restaurant, one expects that it will bear at least some resemblance to the concept of "burrito" that is widely held in the larger burrito-eating-and-preparing community. It's not gonna be cotton candy, served in a dirty laundry hamper, with chopsticks, unless one has been banished to Bizarro Earth.

That said, if you want to go home with your SO and cook up Fruit Loops on broiled sea bass and beets and enjoy your "burrito" together, then no Word Police will break down your door. Although an angry sea bass widow might.

And if you want to expand the concept of burrito, then cool. But you'll have to do a little more explaining to be understood. For instance, your restaurant might feature an "open face Thai style burrito on a spelt tortilla." Now people know that "THIS burrito differs from the commonly-held head-picture of a burrito in X ways." That requires a little more work to be understood, but so what? It's worth it.

I like PYL/pyl, with the caveat that this is going to be the equivalent of the term "Mexican food": if one wants to communicate with more precision, it will require a little more effort.

God. I didn't realize how hungry I was when I wrote that.

MMmmmm...burritos:rose:
 
The moment I saw it was a for-pay site, I stopped expecting radical- at least, as far as the imagery goes, because the site has some fabulous bondage on it!

But you know I always ask people where they first heard the words that describe BDSM roles, and most of them can't even remember... it's been always been dom/sub, as far as they're concerned. This at least, is part of WHY, IMO... it's the mainstream shopping mall BDSM world.

It's the price we pay, honestly, for the improved information and communication of the internet-- the very thing that's made it more possible to persue BDSM with less interference from the law, more possible to find out the bad actors... more possible to dumb down at the same time. Some people like it that way.
first, if you think that is good bondage, you should check out some of the fet fotogs...

I first became fully aware of the labels for bdsm on here. before it was just something we did. I had a lesbian friend who was a pro-domme in the late 80s who called herself a dominatrix, but I never associated what she did with my desires or the direction my relationship was taking.

personally I'm fucking sick of the bdsm/vanilla dichotomy just as much as the straight/gay one. I'd rather just focus on fucking the person of whatever their chosen gender and however is mutually sexy to us.
 
I badge, too. I'm a member of the elite group of Italian badgers. I don't have to renew. I'm made. Kiss my badger ring?

Makes me wanna ride on a scooter through the streets of Rome at 2 a.m., cigarette dangling from my lower lip, sunglasses on, my best badger's reflection glinting in the wet stones of the Trevi Fountain.
 
Makes me wanna ride on a scooter through the streets of Rome at 2 a.m., cigarette dangling from my lower lip, sunglasses on, my best badger's reflection glinting in the wet stones of the Trevi Fountain.
A Vespa, no doubt!
 
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