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Comshaw said:
To augment your comment, I found this on a video from a news cast. It shows the position of the shooter and Trump. how the hell was he able to get to that roof without being detected? Yep, they screwed the pooch royally.

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Yup.

Re. the shooter and the head bob. Both most likely. Good red dots are 2MOA dots which means that the dot subtended ~ 3 inches at the approx 150yd range, or +/- 1.5 inches from point of aim. So the shooter did not zero his sight well, jerked the trigger, and/or all of the above. Then there was the head movement, slight though it may have been. It all added up to damn good luck for Trump.

Various security experts have been warning about Trumps team for quite some time now.
 
A decent shooter - decent enough - but not up to disciplined. I worked out those shooting bugs competing in high power.
 
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Wat_Tyler said:
I know about coal trains.
So I cleaned my EDC 9mm this afternoon because reasons. A clean EDC piece is a happy EDC piece.
So I can continue to be a mean guy with a gun.
Because the Pantheon hates a pussy . . . .
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When the Revolution comes, you're a lock for the bronze medal in civilian collateral damage.
Right behind Rightguide and Botany Boy,
 
Wat_Tyler said:
I know about coal trains.


So I cleaned my EDC 9mm this afternoon because reasons. A clean EDC piece is a happy EDC piece.


So I can continue to be a mean guy with a gun.


Because the Pantheon hates a pussy . . . .
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I actually don't clean my EDC any more often than necessary for it to function without stoppages. I'm thinking that if it's good enough for the long range shooters it's good enough for me. Plus it just flat out looks like it means business all the time.
 
HisArpy said:
I actually don't clean my EDC any more often than necessary for it to function without stoppages. I'm thinking that if it's good enough for the long range shooters it's good enough for me. Plus it just flat out looks like it means business all the time.
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I like to check for lint.
 
Chobham said:
Yup.

Re. the shooter and the head bob. Both most likely. Good red dots are 2MOA dots which means that the dot subtended ~ 3 inches at the approx 150yd range, or +/- 1.5 inches from point of aim. So the shooter did not zero his sight well, jerked the trigger, and/or all of the above. Then there was the head movement, slight though it may have been. It all added up to damn good luck for Trump.

Various security experts have been warning about Trumps team for quite some time now.
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Any dumb ass that "jerks the trigger" when using a 5.56/.223 ought to be slapped, hard. If he had shot the rifle a few times I don't think that would have happened. On the red dot, 1.5" + or - at 150 yards, that means another + .5" or more at 200 yards, yeah? And you're talking about ideal conditions with match-grade ammo. Under those conditions, a good shot can do just as well with post and peep sights. An excellent shot can do much better. I also don't think he had enough foresight to buy good ammo so he was probably using off the shelf factory loaded ammo, which, depending on the maker and firearm used can add inches to the point of impact.

As far as Trump's head turn, watch the video in slowmo. He turned his head slightly to the right, toward the ear that got hit. Had he not turned the bullet might have missed him altogether.

What it comes down to is an incompetent person behind the rifle, which I am happy was the case.

Comshaw
 
On another note, my grandson is leaving for Brazil. He's in a Rotary Club student exchange program. Before he goes my son wanted to go out and shoot at some little clay birdies. I haven't had a shotgun in my hand for 25 years but I was up for it. Between the 3 of us we burned through 500 12 ga. rounds. It confirmed that I am two fingers on the upper side of mediocre as a wing shot. But it was a hella fun day.


Comshaw
 
Comshaw said:
What it comes down to is an incompetent person behind the rifle, which I am happy was the case.

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The first shot almost blew trumps head off. Plus he had just bluffed a cop and trumps head was moving around.
 
Those counter-snipers on the roof were using M2010 sniper systems in 300 WinMag. One of the reasons identification of the asshole was delayed...............no head.
 
Mine treat me like I'm in charge. I guess that they were brought up gooder'n some people's guns.


That and I regularly wash out their barrels with copper solvent . . . .
 
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