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There's lots of vulgarism just below the surface there . . .


like a whole hungry herd of Unintended Consequences.


Kinda like most Federal legislation enacted this millennium . . .


or since the dawn of Time.


 
[The] defilements are like a cat. If you feed it, it will keep coming around. Stop feeding it, and eventually it will not bother to come around anymore.

~ Ajahn Chah
 
I have always found the weapons/small arms development after WW2 to be fascinating. There was the Iron Curtain dividing line and the unification of thought - mostly - on the ComBloc side and the diversity of weapons and ideas on the western side. Of course, the fact that the Red Army had "liberated" Eastern Europe and continued to maintain a presence and the new communist governments were formed there did a great deal to influence thinking. Captured German weapons were collected and sent to Soviet arsenals and refurbished and then stored. Many wound up going to the Middle East not long afterwards. Around Y2K, the Russians dumped a lot of refurbished German arms into the US firearms market. I can remember going to gun shows and seeing crated of P38s and Lugers behind the tables and watching those go for $350 each. Those were the days, so to speak.


The Czechs had a bit of a rebellious streak in them and developed a battle carbine after the war. It resembled the SKS a great deal, but they put their brand of creativity into it. They have a long history of building good rifles. The 7,62mm samonabíjecí puška vzor 52 stood out as being unique for a few changes to the basic SKS idea, not the least being the chambering in a proprietary 7.62 x 45 cartridge. I don't remember seeing any of these for sale during the Great Eastern European Weapons Dump of Y2K, and I have never seen the ammo for sale.


It seems that some of the rifles have resurfaced from, of all places, Ethopia. They were stored in not ideal but very dry conditions and are in pretty good shape in some cases. They are also cheaper than the Yugo SKSs in the same batch of rifles for sale. Of course, the SKS version is chambered for standard ComBloc 7.62 x 39 ammo like the AK which followed it. So I shopped for some ex forty-five, and lol and behold, it's out there. Starting at $2/round. Most of it was $3 per. And it's steel cased, so reloading ain't going to happen.


I'd post a picture of the rifle, but in the Facebook environment we have here now, it might have some kind of tits in/on it . . . .
 
The priestess sez:


You may have heard the saying that hurt people hurt people. But what is also true is that healed people heal people. Not as an act of obligation, or law or social expectation but as an act of freedom.
 
The VZ-52 sales pitch. Maybe, if ammo weren't suck an issue.


Why the VZ 52 Belongs in Your Collection​

Step into post-WWII Eastern Bloc history with the Czech VZ 52 rifle — a distinctive, rare, and historically rich firearm developed in Czechoslovakia in the early 1950s. Known officially as the 7,62mm samonabíjecí puška vzor 52, this semi-automatic rifle stands apart from typical Soviet designs in nearly every way.

https://fonts.gstatic.com/s/e/notoemoji/16.0/1f6e0_fe0f/72.png Engineering that Stands Out​

Unlike many rifles of its time, the VZ 52 features:

  • Gas-operated system with a frontal tilting bolt – a highly unusual and mechanically intriguing locking system
  • Integrated folding bayonet cleverly stored under the barrel
  • M1 Garand-style trigger group for a crisp shooting experience
  • Detachable 10-round magazine with stripper clip compatibility
  • Side-mounted optics rail and adjustable iron sights (100–950m) for added versatility
  • Durable walnut or beech wood stock with an integrated cleaning kit compartment
Even decades later, VZ 52 rifles are known for their robust construction and excellent parts condition — built to survive both battlefield use and the test of time.

https://fonts.gstatic.com/s/e/notoemoji/16.0/1f3af/72.png A True Collector’s Caliber​

Chambered in 7.62×45mm, the VZ 52 uses a non-Soviet, unique intermediate cartridge that sets it apart in any collection. While a later version—the VZ 52/57—was rechambered in 7.62×39mm, the original VZ 52 remains the rarer and more desirable variant.

https://fonts.gstatic.com/s/e/notoemoji/16.0/1f30d/72.png Cold War Legacy​

Deployed in Cold War hotspots like Cuba, Angola, Afghanistan, Somalia, and more, the VZ 52 made its mark globally before being replaced by the vz. 58. Its legacy continues to this day — chrome-finished, deactivated vz. 52s are still carried by the Prague Castle Guard during ceremonial duties.

https://fonts.gstatic.com/s/e/notoemoji/16.0/1f9ed/72.png Add a Unique Story to Your Collection​

The VZ 52 isn’t just another surplus rifle. It’s a bold example of independent Czech engineering, Cold War history, and rare design — all rolled into a reliable, functional, and display-worthy firearm.
 
Those are the 52/57 models.


Those are conspicuous in their absence from the For Sale list.
 
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