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To study the Buddha is to study oneself. To study oneself is to forget oneself. To forget oneself is to be enlightened by the myriad dharmas. To be enlightened by the myriad dharmas is to bring about the dropping away of body and mind of both oneself and others. The traces of enlightenment come to an end, and this traceless enlightenment is continued endlessly.

~ Dôgen

I prefer the way of the Dao.

Buddism is based on self study to achieve personal enlightenment and elevation to the higher planes. This is done through a cycle of suffering and rebirth.

Daoism is the aligning of oneself with the universe to free the self from society and align it with nature.

Both are very close in ideology and practice but Daoism doesn't require the suffering and rebirth bits necessary in Buddism. Even so both are slowly being merged, along with Taoism, into a religious pantheon which uses the best parts of both.

This works for me because Mr. MorningStar is all about being a force of Nature. My only suggestion is that you take extreme care to not end up sitting next to the volcano.
 
I prefer the way of the Dao.

Buddism is based on self study to achieve personal enlightenment and elevation to the higher planes. This is done through a cycle of suffering and rebirth.

Daoism is the aligning of oneself with the universe to free the self from society and align it with nature.

Both are very close in ideology and practice but Daoism doesn't require the suffering and rebirth bits necessary in Buddism. Even so both are slowly being merged, along with Taoism, into a religious pantheon which uses the best parts of both.

This works for me because Mr. MorningStar is all about being a force of Nature. My only suggestion is that you take extreme care to not end up sitting next to the volcano.


I’ve never worked very hard to draw distinctions between the two. I, too, am inclined to agree that picking the best parts from all tends to simplify things. Along in the short seems to be the cultivation of humility, such that we don’t take ourselves too damn seriously or get consumed with thinking that we are all that in a sack of chips. One can learn that if one is observant by watching libturds rattle on about how important what they’re rattling on about is, and the truth is, at the end of the day, no one could care less, as it simply is not possible. We have many notable examples.


I also think it’s nice to get out there and help somebody as a regular way of doing business. The thing I like to do most of all is to do something for someone else and make it a point not to tell anyone about it. That way, my “good deed “is between me, the recipient, and the universe. Among. The deed is among us.
 
I prefer the way of the Dao.

Buddism is based on self study to achieve personal enlightenment and elevation to the higher planes. This is done through a cycle of suffering and rebirth.

Daoism is the aligning of oneself with the universe to free the self from society and align it with nature.

Both are very close in ideology and practice but Daoism doesn't require the suffering and rebirth bits necessary in Buddism. Even so both are slowly being merged, along with Taoism, into a religious pantheon which uses the best parts of both.

This works for me because Mr. MorningStar is all about being a force of Nature. My only suggestion is that you take extreme care to not end up sitting next to the volcano.

I’ve never worked very hard to draw distinctions between the two. I, too, am inclined to agree that picking the best parts from all tends to simplify things. Along in the short seems to be the cultivation of humility, such that we don’t take ourselves too damn seriously or get consumed with thinking that we are all that in a sack of chips. One can learn that if one is observant by watching libturds rattle on about how important what they’re rattling on about is, and the truth is, at the end of the day, no one could care less, as it simply is not possible. We have many notable examples.


I also think it’s nice to get out there and help somebody as a regular way of doing business. The thing I like to do most of all is to do something for someone else and make it a point not to tell anyone about it. That way, my “good deed “is between me, the recipient, and the universe. Among. The deed is among us.
Neither work out as well in the present as much as: You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.

I would add that includes disparaging remarks made against others in this forum.

Pretty much sums up how the universe and its vassals should work in harmony with one another.

But, then we have you two musing about being nice to others. That's a start. :):coffee:

Pay it forward...
 
Neither work out as well in the present as much as: You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.

I would add that includes disparaging remarks made against others in this forum.

Pretty much sums up how the universe and its vassals should work in harmony with one another.

But, then we have you two musing about being nice to others. That's a start. :):coffee:

Pay it forward...

This would be great if only you'd stop lying to everyone. Yourself included.
 
BTW, I don't mind being the salt in other people's bags o' chips. Some people like a little salty, some don't, and a few spit/sputter/and make awful faces at the mere thought that something isn't totally sweetened for them to enjoy.

Anyway you sprinkle it, I come up a winner!
 
This would be great if only you'd stop lying to everyone. Yourself included.
Harpy, I wouldn't lie to you. There is nothing to gain by it. Pointing out fallacies and flaws in your commentaries are not lies.

Hey, you said you would participate in random acts of kindness and not seek notice over it. That's admirable... or was that a lie you told yourself? You would be prideful if someone noticed your efforts. Ah, that's the rub; the desire for recognition keeps you from that selfish act.

I gave up lying in 1971. I found it harder to cover other lies I told in the miltary for your protection. I promised myself I would be better at just telling the truth since it doesn't have to policed or require another lie to cover it over.

You on the other hand... are a piece of continuous untruth. If you are a lawyer, you practice it daily. Hiding behind a veneer of quasi-truth to work your innocence pleas.

I don't have to do any of that. It's amazing how good you feel knowing you can honestly say you aren't hiding things.
 
you said you would participate in random acts of kindness and not seek notice over it.


I said that, dumb shit. You don't know who(m) you're referring on the same fucking page, and that makes you unbelievable, which is the litter mate of lying. Besides, odds are, you're breathing. Humans lie - it's what we do, whether it be the conscious lie we tell others or the delusions we live in, like "Joe's sharp as a tack."


You might notice that I don't reply to you. You're dull as dishwater. I'd suggest that Off is the direction in which you should fuck, and that you'd do well to stay there.
 
How so? I stated it. How would you go about disproving it? I'll wait. This should be interesting logic behind this.

This is an avoidance. The burden is upon you to disprove my statement, not the other way around.

Why? Because it's well known that humans constantly and consistently tell little white lies every day.

Me? I think it's obvious that I'm not Mr. MorningStar's head flunky. There's no possible way I can be, mostly because the damn blood donor chicken ratted me out.

So yes, I lie. For humorous reasons.

Now it's your turn. Remember, an admission of guilt proves my statement.
 
This is an avoidance. The burden is upon you to disprove my statement, not the other way around.

Why? Because it's well known that humans constantly and consistently tell little white lies every day.

Me? I think it's obvious that I'm not Mr. MorningStar's head flunky. There's no possible way I can be, mostly because the damn blood donor chicken ratted me out.

So yes, I lie. For humorous reasons.

Now it's your turn. Remember, an admission of guilt proves my statement.



Yeah, but you're my kind of lying sack o' crap.


I reckon it's time for someone else to come along and say Teh St000pid any minute now . . . .
 
This is an avoidance. The burden is upon you to disprove my statement, not the other way around.

Why? Because it's well known that humans constantly and consistently tell little white lies every day.

Me? I think it's obvious that I'm not Mr. MorningStar's head flunky. There's no possible way I can be, mostly because the damn blood donor chicken ratted me out.

So yes, I lie. For humorous reasons.

Now it's your turn. Remember, an admission of guilt proves my statement.
Good thing I recall a bit from an old university logic course. It's useful here.

This is a Harpy classic—demanding I prove a negative while wiggling out of proving your own claim. That’s like accusing me of being a werewolf and then insisting it's my job to prove I’m not howling at the moon. Cute trick, but no dice, Arphy. The tests of logic doesn't work that way.

In the realm of Reasoning and Logic this is called a logical fallacy. It known as shifting the burden of proof (or argumentum ad ignorantiam). You made a claim ("That is a lie"), so you shall provide evidence, not demand that the I must prove a negative.

Your argument boils down to ‘people lie, therefore you must be lying.’ By that logic, since people also breathe, should I assume you’re hyperventilating right now?

And let’s not ignore the plot twist—you just admitted you lie for fun.
So I’m supposed to trust a self-proclaimed liar to tell me that I’m lying? That’s rich. If anything, I should be asking you to prove you’re telling the truth about me lying.

But hey, if this is how your concept of logic works now, then congratulations—you just proved I’m the Pope!

Hey, I'm not lying. Truth is, your ass failed a logic exercise by being a self-admitted liar.
 
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