Voting against a genre rather than against a story

[oggbashan]

Oops...

I should have read this thread before putting an Earth Day contest story in as "Loving Wives".

I was so naive that I thought it meant what it said so I wrote about a loving wife. Now I understand some of the feedback and the public comment that was pleased to find a 'loving wife' in the Loving Wives category.

Next time I'll look at some stories in the category before assuming that I know what the category is for.

Og

PS. It isn't 'Hedgehog Feud'.

 

[dirtylover]

Sorry if this has been said before, but I often find it useful as a reader if the writer has given forewarining of their stories content. eg ArseholeAddict explicitly states what to expect in each of his chapters, which is good since he writes about scat, a real turn-off for me, but I do really enjoy some of his other stuff...

If you write a story about a humiliated husband, or whatever, if you mention this in an introductory paragraph, then your readers have no grounds to complain about content.

 

[raphy]

Gasp shock horror, I'm about to agree with Pure and his breakdown of the Loving Wives category.

And from my understanding, Box, Loving Wives was never intended to be about loving couples in a loving, commmited relationship. We have Romance and Erotic Couplings for that.

I'm sure Laurel or Muffie or someone will correct me on this if I'm wrong, but it's my understanding that Loving Wives was originally intended for this genre of story:

A wife who goes above and beyond the call of marital duty in order to please her husband.

This can be (but is not limited to)

1. Sleeping around and telling him about it afterwards. Some men are aroused by hearing tales of their wife with another man.

"Oh honey, he was so big. I came so hard. I'm getting horny again just thinking about it. Fuck me now!"

2. Agreeing to a three-some (or more-some) with another man (or another woman) at the husband's urging.

"Well, if you want to, we can try it with my best friend sandra the swimsuit model. Anything for you, honey."

3. Sleeping with another man (or woman) while the husband looks on from a secret place, thus fulfilling his voyeur fantasies. The third party may or may not know he is being watched.

"Don't look now, but my husband's over there in the bushes. He loves to watch me get fucked by another man."

4. Sleeping with another man (or woman) without the husband's knowledge or consent but to gain something for him.

"Okay, Mr. Johnson, I'll blow you under your desk if you let my husband keep his job, but don't tell him, okay?"

Obviously the logical extension of 1 (and 3) is the creation of the cuckold, or 'wimp husband' who can't please his wife and thus must allow her to get her sexual satisfaction from other men. Often those other men will humiliate the husband at the same time.

This is where the confusion arises, because in the first three categories, the husband is the initiator of the wife's activity.

"Do this for me if you love me. I need you to do it or I won't be sexually satisfied."

In the fourth, she is the initiator, but she's doing it out of love for her husband and care for his wellbeing. (albeit in a twisted way)

But in the evolution of the cuckold and 'wimp husband' we find it very hard to percieve the husband being the driving force being the wife's activity. In those scenarios, it's the wife that has the upper hand and is dominating the husband.

"I want you to fuck me because my husband is a limp-dicked wimp who can't satisfy me."

I fully believe that the original examples I mentioned fit perfectly under the genre 'Loving Wives'. They are without a doubt, stories about wives who love their husbands so much that they're willing to do things that they wouldn't normally do, but that the evolution of those stories has changed the genre into something it was not intended to be, and which the title does not accurately reflect any more.

Indecent Proposal, anyone? That's the biggest Hollywood example of a 'Loving Wives' story that I can think of.

 

[sweetnpetite]

Thanks Raphy, I think you're right on target

Indecent Proposal, anyone? That's the biggest Hollywood example of a 'Loving Wives' story that I can think of.

 

[raphy]

Thanks Raphy, I think you're right on target

Thanks SnP .. I almost wasn't. Lit ate my post right after I hit Submit - Luckily, I'd typed it up in notepad and only copied it into the submit box. I always do that on posts that I know are going to be long. Had too many bad experiences with webforms eating my text.

 

[fifty5]

I'd like to second SnP in agreeing with Raphy.

"Wimp cuckold" is a valid category, but doesn't fit with the other sub-groups Raphy lists - and which actually are about "Loving Wives."

Another group I'd like to see divided is "Group Sex" (though maybe I'm speaking as a reader - expressing my own preferences).

Gang-bangs and large-scale orgies bore me - I nearly said 'bore me rigid' but 'bore me limp' is more accurate. Small-scale groups of friends, neighbours, or whatever on the other hand...

(Pause for deep breaths...)

The frustration of having to waste so much reading time before it becomes apparent which kind of group is involved gives me some sympathy with those who take out their resentment on the author - though I do agree it isn't justified.

Incidentally, my one submission (http://www.literotica.com/stories/showstory.php?id=101427) is a between-categories story (must write that remaining chapter of the magnum opus).

I submitted it as "Group Sex" - because the guy gets his rocks off with two sisters at the same time, but it got re-categorised as "Incest" because the guy gets his rocks off with two sisters (one of whom is turned on by the other girl being her sister).

I guess categories just ain't that precise...

f5

 

[sweetnpetite]

Hey that is an excellent idea. I should do well to remember it in the future. Just had a long post get lost earlier today.

Thanks SnP .. I almost wasn't. Lit ate my post right after I hit Submit - Luckily, I'd typed it up in notepad and only copied it into the submit box. I always do that on posts that I know are going to be long. Had too many bad experiences with webforms eating my text.

 

[raphy]

Hey that is an excellent idea. I should do well to remember it in the future. Just had a long post get lost earlier today.

Shoulda taken my own damn advice on my latest post on the Retrosexual thread.

 

[SlickTony]

One Loving Wives scenario that wasn't mentioned was the one where the wife plays prostitute, but the "john" is really her husband--a role-playing kind of thing.