Virtual Killing.... a Way to Christ [Halo]

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http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/07/us/07halo.html?em&ex=1191988800&en=4db9da4caaef0870&ei=5087
Thou Shalt Not Kill, Except in a Popular Video Game at Church
Kevin Moloney for The New York Times


By MATT RICHTEL
Published: October 7, 2007

First the percussive sounds of sniper fire and the thrill of the kill. Then the gospel of peace.

Across the country, hundreds of ministers and pastors desperate to reach young congregants have drawn concern and criticism through their use of an unusual recruiting tool: the immersive and violent video game Halo.

The latest iteration of the immensely popular space epic, Halo 3, was released nearly two weeks ago by Microsoft and has already passed $300 million in sales.

Those buying it must be 17 years old, given it is rated M for mature audiences. But that has not prevented leaders at churches and youth centers across Protestant denominations, including evangelical churches that have cautioned against violent entertainment, from holding heavily attended Halo nights and stocking their centers with multiple game consoles so dozens of teenagers can flock around big-screen televisions and shoot it out.

The alliance of popular culture and evangelism is challenging churches much as bingo games did in the 1960s. And the question fits into a rich debate about how far churches should go to reach young people.
Far from being defensive, church leaders who support Halo — despite its “thou shalt kill” credo — celebrate it as a modern and sometimes singularly effective tool. It is crucial, they say, to reach the elusive audience of boys and young men.

Witness the basement on a recent Sunday at the Colorado Community Church in the Englewood area of Denver, where Tim Foster, 12, and Chris Graham, 14, sat in front of three TVs, locked in violent virtual combat as they navigated on-screen characters through lethal gun bursts. Tim explained the game’s allure: “It’s just fun blowing people up.”

Once they come for the games, Gregg Barbour, the youth minister of the church said, they will stay for his Christian message. “We want to make it hard for teenagers to go to hell,” Mr. Barbour wrote in a letter to parents at the church.

But the question arises: What price to appear relevant? Some parents, religious ethicists and pastors say that Halo may succeed at attracting youths, but that it could have a corroding influence. In providing Halo, churches are permitting access to adult-themed material that young people cannot buy on their own.

“If you want to connect with young teenage boys and drag them into church, free alcohol and pornographic movies would do it,” said James Tonkowich, president of the Institute on Religion and Democracy, a nonprofit group that assesses denominational policies. “My own take is you can do better than that.”

Daniel R. Heimbach, a professor of Christian ethics at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary, believes that churches should reject Halo, in part because it associates thrill and arousal with killing.
“To justify whatever killing is involved by saying that it’s just pixels involved is an illusion,” he said.

Focus on the Family, a large evangelical organization, said it was trying to balance the game’s violent nature with its popularity and the fact that churches are using it anyway. “Internally, we’re still trying to figure out what is our official view on it,” said Lisa Anderson, a spokeswoman for the group.

There is little doubting Halo’s cultural relevance. Even as video games have grown in popularity, the Halo series stands out. The first Halo and Halo 2 sold nearly 15 million copies combined. Microsoft says that Halo 3 “is on track to become the No. 1 gaming title of all time.”
Hundreds of churches use Halo games to connect with young people, said Lane Palmer, the youth ministry specialist at the Dare 2 Share Ministry, a nonprofit organization in Arvada, Colo., that helps churches on youth issues.

“It’s very pervasive,” Mr. Palmer said, more widespread on the coasts, less so in the South, where the Southern Baptist denomination takes a more cautious approach. The organization recently sent e-mail messages to 50,000 young people about how to share their faith using Halo 3. Among the tips: use the game’s themes as the basis for a discussion about good and evil.

At Sweetwater Baptist Church in Lawrenceville, Ga., Austin Brown, 16, said, “We play Halo, take a break and have something to eat, and have a lesson,” explaining that the pastor tried to draw parallels “between God and the devil.”

Players of Halo 3 control the fate of Master Chief, a tough marine armed to the teeth who battles opponents with missiles, lasers, guns that fire spikes, energy blasters and other fantastical weapons. They can also play in teams, something the churches say allows communication and fellowship opportunities.
 
Focus on the Family, a large evangelical organization, said it was trying to balance the game’s violent nature with its popularity and the fact that churches are using it anyway. “Internally, we’re still trying to figure out what is our official view on it,” said Lisa Anderson, a spokeswoman for the group.
That is disgusting.
 
Next step: Teaching the kids that they need to envision something...or someone as they blow 'em up. Any bets that "non-believers" or those of "evil" faiths become the targets? :rolleyes:
 
I'm left wondering about the spiritual quality of the converts. I guess they get through to a few but it's a hellish route.
 
No tool is beyond the use of evil.

And it always convinces the people it turns that they are doing the right thing.
 
Hey, I'm a gamer. My 9-year-old son beat this game in two days.

Nice to know it's all meaningful and stuff. We've already returned the game to the video store.

I didn't recall any particular surge in his spirituality.
 
3113 said:
Next step: Teaching the kids that they need to envision something...or someone as they blow 'em up. Any bets that "non-believers" or those of "evil" faiths become the targets? :rolleyes:

I was always taught to NEVER picture someone's face ona target that I was shooting at.

I know, I know, the rolleyes smily ment you weren't serious :rolleyes:
 
PurePlayers of Halo 3 control the fate of Master Chief said:
Hello! Master Chief is a Navy, not Marine rank. Master Sergeant is a Marine rank.
 
R. Richard said:
When the Hebrew text was translated into English for the bible, there were mistakes made. [So a Hebrew reading/writing person of my acquaintence tells me.] The text is NOT, "Thou shalt not kill." The proper translation is, "Thou shalt not murder."

I do know that thou shalt not gank thy teammate while joyriding in a warthog.

Thou shalt be booted from the Holy Server.
 
R. Richard said:
The proper translation is, "Thou shalt not murder."
Well, it goes a little bit farther than that. The *implication* is that thou shalt not murder one of your own people/tribe. Murdering (killing?) people of other tribes and faiths is perfectly fine--especially if God tells you to do it. Which is to say, it's not a good idea to quote the 10 Commandments (or the old Testament for that matter) if you're going to argue diplomacy and peace over slaughtering every man, woman, child and animal that belongs to your enemies. The Old Testament is really big on slaughtering everyone and everything when it comes to enemies. It ain't so big on being forgiving and peace-loving.

But then, these are Chruches. They've got plenty of New Testament quotes and stories arguing for not shooting down enemies: "Turn the other cheek" (which is also an interesting quote if you understand the cultural significance behind it), and "Love thy Enemy" and "Forgive" and all that.

One might ask, What would Jesus do...with a Halo game? :devil:
 
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anyone here played 'halo' in any version?

:devil:


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note to RR.

yes, i agree 'murder' is preferrable. there was obviously no ban on killing.

note to 3113: don't you know that killing in war is not murder? in fact clearing the land of riff raff and idolaters hardly even counts as 'killing', any more than getting rid of small rodents. ask our American ancestors.
 
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Stella_Omega said:
That is disgusting.

Focus on the Family is a bunch of evil people. They have no reason for continued existence on a planet that's discovered penicillin.
 
Pure said:
anyone here played 'halo' in any version?

:devil:


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note to RR.

yes, i agree 'murder' is preferrable. there was obviously no ban on killing.

note to 3113: don't you know that killing in war is not murder? in fact clearing the land of riff raff and idolaters hardly even counts as 'killing', any more than getting rid of small rodents. ask our American ancestors.

Halo is a first person shooter. I'm no good at them, so I don't play it, but my husband and son have played every version. So I'm very familiar with the game, plot, soundtrack (excellent) and Master Chief.
 
Conspiracy time:

This is obviously a well-coordinated recruitment drive on the part of Microsoft, the US government, and organized religion to train and brainwash young men and women into becoming efficient, religiously-inspired killing machines.

Next thing you know, the Holy American Empire will be stomping the heads of every religious zealot out there who doesn't follow 'the righteous path.'

Hmm . . . not a bad storyline, come to think of it. Throw in some good old-fashioned religious orgies, and I may have a hit! :D
 
slyc_willie said:
Conspiracy time:

This is obviously a well-coordinated recruitment drive on the part of Microsoft, the US government, and organized religion to train and brainwash young men and women into becoming efficient, religiously-inspired killing machines.

Next thing you know, the Holy American Empire will be stomping the heads of every religious zealot out there who doesn't follow 'the righteous path.'

Hmm . . . not a bad storyline, come to think of it. Throw in some good old-fashioned religious orgies, and I may have a hit! :D

The American Army already has a recruitment program they use.

It's called "America's Army" lots 'o killing. They don't have to pretend, they just issue it to gamers. It's a recruitment tool.
 
Recidiva said:
The American Army already has a recruitment program they use.

It's called "America's Army" lots 'o killing. They don't have to pretend, they just issue it to gamers. It's a recruitment tool.

Ahh . . . but this will be a HOLY army, with the backing of God ;)
 
Stella_Omega said:
That is disgusting.

As long as they apply the same logic--"kids are going to do it anyway"--and reverse their stances on sex education, birth control, and abortion, I'm fine with it.

:devil:
 
slyc_willie said:
Ahh . . . but this will be a HOLY army, with the backing of God ;)

Oh, I'm sure that's included in the subtext. These are not fantasy locales. I'm sure you can choose Mogadishu and Baghdad as scenarios.
 
Recidiva said:
Oh, I'm sure that's included in the subtext. These are not fantasy locales. I'm sure you can choose Mogadishu and Baghdad as scenarios.

Excellent! Getting them familiar with the terrain before they even go there . . . *taking notes*
 
Oblimo said:
As long as they apply the same logic--"kids are going to do it anyway"--and reverse their stances on sex education, birth control, and abortion, I'm fine with it.

:devil:

But, don't you see? That's all part of the insidious plan! Kids don't know anything about sex, so they experiment, the girls get pregnant because the boys didn't use a condom, and without abortion, there's no other option but to breed more holy soldiers!

They're brilliant!
 
slyc_willie said:
But, don't you see? That's all part of the insidious plan! Kids don't know anything about sex, so they experiment, the girls get pregnant because the boys didn't use a condom, and without abortion, there's no other option but to breed more holy soldiers!

They're brilliant!
AND if there are no government funded programs to take care of these kids, nothing save faith-based charities....

I think you're onto something!
 
3113 said:
AND if there are no government funded programs to take care of these kids, nothing save faith-based charities....

I think you're onto something!

This all just makes too much sense for it to NOT be true :p
 
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