Vettebigot's favourite UK political party.

[Sean]

Voting to make child sex abuse legal.

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[Learnsmith]

Voting to make child sex abuse legal.

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Context?

 

[pointless]

seriously, what the hell is that supposed to be showing us again?

 

[Sean]

Context?

European Parliament vote on a new pan European child sex law. Even the other members of their political grouping voted for it. For UKIP, voting against Europe trumps curbing child sex abuse.

 

[dolf]

European Parliament vote on a new pan European child sex law. Even the other members of their political grouping voted for it. For UKIP, voting against Europe trumps curbing child sex abuse.

in their defence, the papers they were given to read about the vote had a lot of long words and dora the explorer was on tele.

 

[pointless]

they like dora the explorer? you guys have fucking weird racists.

 

[lovetoread]

dora keeps body parts in her magical backpack.

 

[Learnsmith]

European Parliament vote on a new pan European child sex law. Even the other members of their political grouping voted for it. For UKIP, voting against Europe trumps curbing child sex abuse.

I follow Another Angry Voice in my Facebook feed, which for an American is an interesting-as-hell look at progressive politics on the other side of the pond. The coverage of UKIP has been especially fascinating, because it seems to bill itself as a moderate third-party but seems arguably more right-wing than the Tory establishment. Not unlike our own Libertarian movements here.

 

[pointless]

i know i sure wish i had a hammer space backpack for easy body part storage. well, some days i do anyway.

well, okay, most days.

 

[Sean]

I follow Another Angry Voice in my Facebook feed, which for an American is an interesting-as-hell look at progressive politics on the other side of the pond. The coverage of UKIP has been especially fascinating, because it seems to bill itself as a moderate third-party but seems arguably more right-wing than the Tory establishment. Not unlike our own Libertarian movements here.

UKIP only have one policy: We hate foreigners.

 

[Learnsmith]

UKIP only have one policy: We hate foreigners.

Yeah, I've gotten that sense too.

 

[Sean]

Yeah, I've gotten that sense too.

They were about to lose some of their EU funding because their group didn't have the requisite number of MEPs from different countries. So they teamed up with a bunch of far right Polish holocaust deniers.

 

[Learnsmith]

They were about to lose some of their EU funding because their group didn't have the requisite number of MEPs from different countries. So they teamed up with a bunch of far right Polish holocaust deniers.

Classy. I remember reading about that. What's interesting to me about the talk of a need for a third party here stateside, is that the hypothetical third party in question is assumed to have a benevolent centrist platform. Except historically, that's not how third parties happen. Splinter groups don't arise from the middle, they arise from extremes. Even the Greens, whom I would likely support were I British, had to have found their traction because, for someone, the Lib Dems or Labour Party just weren't quite progressive enough. Change never comes from the middle, for good or for ill.

 

[Sean]

Classy. I remember reading about that. What's interesting to me about the talk of a need for a third party here stateside, is that the hypothetical third party in question is assumed to have a benevolent centrist platform. Except historically, that's not how third parties happen. Splinter groups don't arise from the middle, they arise from extremes. Even the Greens, whom I would likely support were I British, had to have found their traction because, for someone, the Lib Dems or Labour Party just weren't quite progressive enough. Change never comes from the middle, for good or for ill.

The Lib Dems are dead. Getting into bed with the tories has destroyed any hope they had of getting elected to anything next year.

 

[Learnsmith]

The Lib Dems are dead. Getting into bed with the tories has destroyed any hope they had of getting elected to anything next year.

Yeah, Clegg really screwed the pooch on that one. And with the tide of opinion so turned against Brown and Labour at the time, it really seemed like the position that all the Very Serious People were pushing media-wise. Yet further instruction to me that "bipartisanship" is often just code for "fuck the poor."

 

[Sean]

Yeah, Clegg really screwed the pooch on that one.

Not only that. He made a cast iron, plain words promise on tuition fees. Then immediately sold his principles out when offered a coalition.

 

[KingOrfeo]

UKIP only have one policy: We hate foreigners.

Well, almost but not quite.

A significant cross section of the British population is antipathetic towards the EU, and a moderate party presenting a half-way sensible eurosceptic agenda might conceivably achieve some electoral success, but UKIP has to date avoided this trap by being careful not to convey any appearance of moderation or sensibility. Of conservative bent, they very effectively limit their appeal by espousing such things as global warming denialism, a flat tax and other policies of great concern to wealthy wingnuts and their astroturfed political movements. By this means they do manage to steal some votes from the Conservative Party (who are too mainstream and pro-European) and the BNP (who are too vulgar and working class, and perhaps also just a little bit too overtly racist).

 

[eyer]

UKIP only have one policy: We hate foreigners.

Uhhhhh...

...wasn't your thread starter's intent to specifically expose another policy you opine the UKIP possesses?

If, as you state, the "UKIP only have one policy", and then you start a thread claiming they have another, totally different policy, too...

...wouldn't that make you as full of shit as you consider your equal The Vetteman to be?

 

[Sean]

Uhhhhh...

...wasn't your thread starter's intent to specifically expose another policy you opine the UKIP possesses?

If, as you state, the "UKIP only have one policy", and then you start a thread claiming they have another, totally different policy, too...

...wouldn't that make you as full of shit as you consider your equal The Vetteman to be?

No, they voted against the act because it was a European act. And they hate foreigners. Want me to type a bit slower for you?

 

[eyer]

No, they voted against the act because it was a European act. And they hate foreigners. Want me to type a bit slower for you?

Sure...

...and when you do, try to edit your "Voting to make child sex abuse legal" thing so it's clear that is not a policy of the UKIP as you originally maintained.

You can type that slow, right?

 

[Sean]

Sure...

...and when you do, try to edit your "Voting to make child sex abuse legal" thing so it's clear that is not a policy of the UKIP as you originally maintained.

You can type that slow, right?

I'll try and explain this for the hard of thinking: UKIP vote against all European legislation because it's European. It doesn't matter if that legislation is good, bad or indifferent. Or designed to stop child sexual abuse. Their hatred of foreigners trumps all else.

 

[pointless]

hey, that was at best only twice as slow.

 

[eyer]

I'll try and explain this for the hard of thinking: UKIP vote against all European legislation because it's European. It doesn't matter if that legislation is good, bad or indifferent. Or designed to stop child sexual abuse. Their hatred of foreigners trumps all else.

Oh, ok, I get it...

...you didn't really mean they voted "to make child sex abuse legal" when you posted:

Vettebigot's favorite UK political party.

Voting to make child sex abuse legal.

Now, I realize your mental peers like Renard, his boy "bot", and partisans on this Board who share your socialist view points understand fully what you meant...

...but, could you still please go back and edit your OP so it doesn't read like exactly what you meant?

Thanx.

 

[NeverEndingMe]

which one is Sean's the Crack or Junkie party club?


SeanH, rehab is for quitters and I'd rather piss myself

 

[butters]

to vote against, abstain, or not vote due to absence is appalling. bet it doesn't make the news though. just had farrage's face on tv condemning the panic of the tories after one of their empees chose to use the word 'swamped', saying it's all about the forthcoming by-election. not a word about his absence and lack of vote in this child abuse issue. i loathe the man.