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JohnnySavage

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Can someone explain to me why vaping is such a huge emergency all the sudden? A handful of people in a country of 350 million die for some unknown reason, and the politicians are beside themselves and rushing to ban it. Aren't there more immediate dangers for those wishing to legislate what people can put into their own bodies?

Disclaimer: I'm not a vaper nor a smoker and not being about Trump, this topic will exclude the most prolific posters from the conversation. No offense meant.
 
Who would benefit the most if vaping were to be made illegal or severely restricted?
 
Seems like these control freaks could find a better use of their time.


Lawyer? I'm a pontificator; an observer of the absurd, a fun drunk who tells the most outrageous stories (some may even be true), a layabout and scoundrel. But gosh darn it, people like me!
 
Seems like these control freaks could find a better use of their time.


Lawyer? I'm a pontificator; an observer of the absurd, a fun drunk who tells the most outrageous stories (some may even be true), a layabout and scoundrel. But gosh darn it, people like me!

Larry likes you, in any event. He says he's noticed your personal hygiene has taken a turn for the worse of late, but he adds that makes it easier to locate you when you get lost outside.
 
Seems like these control freaks could find a better use of their time.

Perhaps more tests would be better, but when young people who should live another 50 years begin to die of "unknown causes" but it is noticed that they all vape, isn't it proper to begin looking at regulation of what cannot possibly be a good habit?

Just the bacteria alone from the unsanitary way the devices are carried is enough to make me cringe.
 
it's an easy target because a fair number of vapers are kind of a pain in the ass about it. i just do it because it's better than cigarettes. i could really give a shit about the size of my cloud and i've always tried to politely blow my smoke away from other people regardless of its odor. others are not like me. they should fix that because i'm pretty great.

and i honestly think this whole thing might be about dipshits smoking janky weed vapes mixed by idiots. there's already been some evidence that points this way, but they're still looking into it. i suppose we'll see.
 
Perhaps more tests would be better, but when young people who should live another 50 years begin to die of "unknown causes" but it is noticed that they all vape, isn't it proper to begin looking at regulation of what cannot possibly be a good habit?

Just the bacteria alone from the unsanitary way the devices are carried is enough to make me cringe.

*shrugs*... It's none of the government's business what I do with my body. If your of the age of majority and want to kill yourself with drugs, cigarettes, vaping... that's your choice.

But really... the deaths and illnesses are so incredibly few, I don't understand what triggered the sudden concern. Hell, it took the government a decade to ban lawn darts.
 
Perhaps more tests would be better, but when young people who should live another 50 years begin to die of "unknown causes" but it is noticed that they all vape, isn't it proper to begin looking at regulation of what cannot possibly be a good habit?

Just the bacteria alone from the unsanitary way the devices are carried is enough to make me cringe.

johnny once said that people dying from drug overdoses die doing what they love. roll that thought around in your brain for a bit.
 


"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule."
-H.L. Mencken​

 
Can someone explain to me why vaping is such a huge emergency all the sudden? A handful of people in a country of 350 million die for some unknown reason, and the politicians are beside themselves and rushing to ban it. Aren't there more immediate dangers for those wishing to legislate what people can put into their own bodies?

People they or their top donors don't like are making money....money they think they are entitled to.

Who would benefit the most if vaping were to be made illegal or severely restricted?

Boom.

Perhaps more tests would be better, but when young people who should live another 50 years begin to die of "unknown causes" but it is noticed that they all vape, isn't it proper to begin looking at regulation of what cannot possibly be a good habit?

No, it's not proper....it's control freak crazy and a dereliction of their actual duties.

They can't manage basic law enforcement, sanitation and basic utility services.

Who are they to start trying to micromanage peoples consumption habbits?

Just the bacteria alone from the unsanitary way the devices are carried is enough to make me cringe.

Yea that shit's gross AF.


johnny once said that people dying from drug overdoses die doing what they love. roll that thought around in your brain for a bit.

He wasn't wrong.
 
*shrugs*... It's none of the government's business what I do with my body. If your of the age of majority and want to kill yourself with drugs, cigarettes, vaping... that's your choice.

OMG!!! You don't want the government micromanaging your life from cradle to grave??

You want some shred of individual liberty???

REEEEEEEEEE!!!!! FUCKINGWHITEMALENAZI!!!! REEEEEEEEEE!!!!
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#PROGRESS
 
It;s corporations trying to make money addicting people to something that will kill them.
Any responsible government would outlaw it
 
It;s corporations trying to make money addicting people to something that will kill them.
Any responsible government would outlaw it

Any authoritarian government that makes everyone responsible for peoples individual choices would outlaw it.

In the USA you're supposed to be responsible for yourself and your own choices.

That is the totally unavoidable and ruthless price of freedom.

If you can't deal, the USA ain't for you, get the fuck out. :)
 
Any authoritarian government would outlaw it.

In the USA you're supposed to be responsible for yourself and your own choices....that's the price of freedom.

next thing you know everybody is gonna want to carry guns all over the place

just because somebody wants to kill you for a buck doesn't mean they should be allowed to
 
Any authoritarian government that makes everyone responsible for peoples individual choices would outlaw it.

In the USA you're supposed to be responsible for yourself and your own choices.

That is the totally unavoidable and ruthless price of freedom.

If you can't deal, the USA ain't for you, get the fuck out. :)


not a lot of compassion in your life is there?
 
johnny once said that people dying from drug overdoses die doing what they love. roll that thought around in your brain for a bit.

Personally, I do not give a damn if people smoke and die, or vape and die, or shoot heroin and die, or snort cocaine and die, or freebase cocaine and die, or drink alcohol and die. I would legalize everything, but at the same time, I would task the FDA (and they could hire the DEA's suddenly excess workforce) to test and regulate quality, purity and safety of the drugs available in legal stores to customers with proper ID (unless they are an undocumented immigrant, African American, Hispanic American, or other non-white American for whom obtaining legal ID is too difficult).
 
A need to control everything

Socialsim is driven by a need to control others. It is a mental illness. The fact that Bloomberg tried to CONTROL the LEGAL size of sodas in NYC shows how deep this craving to control goes. NYC is crawling with filth and bugs and all kinds of crime. But he makes a big deal out of peoples choice in soda size. The craving never ends. The more control they have the more they want. Every year there are more and more controls and regulations and things get worse not better.

Smoking anything is stupid and self-destructive. But no human has the right to tell other humans what they can ingest.
 
not a lot of compassion in your life is there?

Compassion doesn't have anything to do with it.

You can be compassionate without the state holding a gun to your head forcing you to take responsibility for everyone els's poor choices. ;)
 
Socialsim is driven by a need to control others. It is a mental illness. The fact that Bloomberg tried to CONTROL the LEGAL size of sodas in NYC shows how deep this craving to control goes. NYC is crawling with filth and bugs and all kinds of crime. But he makes a big deal out of peoples choice in soda size. The craving never ends. The more control they have the more they want. Every year there are more and more controls and regulations and things get worse not better.

Smoking anything is stupid and self-destructive. But no human has the right to tell other humans what they can ingest.

Don't forget they are now directly violating everyones civil rights to try and control speech.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/10/01/new-york-city-bans-use-illegal-alien-fines-259-k/3836672002/

Overt oppression of their citizens to protect the fee fees of all the illigal migrants....clearly one of the most serious issues facing NYC.

Suuuuuuper progressive. :D
 
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Any authoritarian government that makes everyone responsible for peoples individual choices would outlaw it.

In the USA you're supposed to be responsible for yourself and your own choices.

That is the totally unavoidable and ruthless price of freedom.

If you can't deal, the USA ain't for you, get the fuck out. :)

So, corporations can develop addictive products that will kill you, hide the fact that they are addictive, hide the fact that they will kill you if used as intended and the government should just say, hey, not our problem if you get sucked in and die, they gotta make a buck you know...yup, now thats what I call freedom
 
No, it's not proper....it's control freak crazy and a dereliction of their actual duties.

They can't manage basic law enforcement, sanitation and basic utility services.

Who are they to start trying to micromanage peoples consumption habbits?
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It is proper to find out if a company is marketing toxic chemicals as safe to inhale.

I guess that should be left only to the lawyers and their hired experts when someone finally files a lawsuit?

Yeah. Damn those containment domes on the nuclear reactors. Fucking cost raising safety regulation bullshite at a basic utility.
 
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