Uprighting the tombstone

[P. B. Walker]

Why would I apologize to a dead man?

Oh Jesus...

You are a fucking twit.

I take it back. You are ~Dream~ incarnate.

I would have actually thought about making the peace here... but fuck her. Sunstuck... you are right, my mind is now SET in fucking concrete.

PBW

 

[sunstruck]

You didn't wish rape and painful death on the board. You don't owe the board shit either.

 

[Shaq]

While I find you to be a hot head and a loose cannon

That's a compliment to most guys.

 

[Rambling Rose]

Look. I actually get your point, PBW. I'm a smart woman and adept at reading the lines, inbetween the lines and beyond the lines. What you want is for me to see the hurtful manner that I posted in and make a heartfelt apology to the boards for my insensitivity. You think that I am inhumane and callous, and possibly highly manipulative. But you asked instead that I apologize to Artful first and foremost, instead of zipman. Artful does not require an apology from me. He is deceased.

No one prompted my apology to zipman. I received no slew of reprimanding private messages for my behaviour. I felt like I wanted to make myself known to him in a more well rounded way. I was honest and above board and I still am. There are so many other little peccadillos on these message boards on a daily basis, why are you focusing on mine? And with such viciousness and fervor. Whatever rudeness you see in me, you have magnified tenfold in your response to it.

 

[Guest]

Whatever rudeness you see in me, you have magnified tenfold in your response to it.

Uh-huh.

But does he have the class to issue an apology?

Not just to you, but to everyone offended by his wishing rape and such on a person?

 

[sunstruck]

Storm there is something about seeing you post that sooths me. I think it's your av.

 

[Rambling Rose]

The thing is, is that I wasn't overly offended by his diatribe yesterday. I considered the source and his history of similar histrionics and I ignored it. It was today's punitive little overspill that irritated me.

I don't want or expect an apology. It's not a matter of showing class or not. It's a matter of following your heart and instincts. It's not in his heart to do it. I can live with that.

 

[Guest]

But perhaps there were others who were offended that he wished rape and shit on someone.

Not that I wasn't thinking of you, of course

And thanks, Sunny. It's for a limited time, only.

 

[sunstruck]

And thanks, Sunny. It's for a limited time, only.

Not unless my hard drive dies.

But honestly I was thinking of the smile not the pecs. You have a great comforting smile.

 

[Rambling Rose]

*smiling*

You know what stuck with me the most? The picture in my mind's eye of the doctor doing a botch job stitching my lip up. That was some pretty vivid imagery!

 

[Nora]

RR...I didn't even know what you meant when we were talking earlier. I went back and reread the whole thread a few minutes ago. That this pusbucket, whiney, pansy-boy, play-acting wannabe would say that to ANYONE, let alone to you and over something as minor as that is beyond belief.

I stick to what I said earlier. He's just looking for more attention at the expense of a dead man. Just like others say Dream's been doing.

 

[modest mouse]

There is a significant difference here.

Rambling Rose has tried to address the pain she caused with her initial post. She has tried to lower the anger, resentment, and ill will she caused with her initial post. Yes she made an error in judgement for which she took the heat. She listened to what people's reaction was, and understood why such emotions were being revealed.

She acted like a human who made a mistake, dealt with it, and is moving on.

The difference is that PBW is feeding off of anger, fostering, letting it fuel him. No real sense in trying to reason with him, better to just let his anger move to another arena.

 

[sexy-girl]

i thought about sending rambling a pm the other day but i didn't because i don't think it was really needed anyway

she knows i didn't exactly like the thread she did ... but she also knows that i like her and still do ... she's one of those posters that's going to get in trouble every so often here for being herself but i wouldn't want her to be any different


i would say though that nora is right that rambling is brash and bold but she also has a very good heart ... i think sometimes when posters are assertive or brash or bold people assume that they are somehow not nice ... i know nora wasn't saying that at all but i think sometimes others think it ... i just wanted to make it clear that rambling is a rose with thorns but also sweetness too

 

[Mischka]

No, I actually owe the board an apology for being hotheaded and raw in my approach to righting what I felt was a wrong.

That repulsive display is what you call "righting" a wrong? This is how you upright a tombstone and remember the passing of a friend? I will never read another one of your posts without remembering the vile acts you wished upon another living human, and your unwillingness to even recognize the baseness of such a move. What a fitting tribute you've concocted.

 

[P. B. Walker]

That repulsive display is what you call "righting" a wrong? This is how you upright a tombstone and remember the passing of a friend? I will never read another one of your posts without remembering the vile acts you wished upon another living human, and your unwillingness to even recognize the baseness of such a move. What a fitting tribute you've concocted.

Thank you Mischka for chiming in and picking out the best parts of my posts to remember me by. For my part, I will always remember you and the rest as the kind of people that will defend someone that revels in joking about the passing of a board member. And again for the record, I barely knew Artful, I would not call us friends.

Enjoy your time here.

PBW

 

[sexy-girl]

Thank you Mischka for chiming in and picking out the best parts of my posts to remember me by. For my part, I will always remember you and the rest as the kind of people that will defend someone that revels in joking about the passing of a board member. And again for the record, I barely knew Artful, I would not call us friends.

Enjoy your time here.

PBW

i don't want to get involved to much because its near the end of the whole thing but i do think you're missing the point

i like rambling rose a lot and i didn't defend her infact i told her i thought the thread was wrong ... and i think thats what most people did ... and she backed away from it and admited it was a mistake

thats when it all should of been dropped in my view

 

[Mischka]

Thank you Mischka for chiming in and picking out the best parts of my posts to remember me by. For my part, I will always remember you and the rest as the kind of people that will defend someone that revels in joking about the passing of a board member.

The above is my first post on the subject. I did not defend Rose - she clearly stands her own ground - nor did I joke about Artful's death. I did not know him, but I leave those that are truly grieving his death in peace.

Yes, those are the words that will cling to your reputation. I did not pick them, you offered them as the embodiment of how you treat others. I have not seen such a response on Lit before, so that makes those words unique unto you.

 

[P. B. Walker]

The above is my first post on the subject. I did not defend Rose - she clearly stands her own ground - nor did I joke about Artful's death. I did not know him, but I leave those that are truly grieving his death in peace.

Yes, those are the words that will cling to your reputation. I did not pick them, you offered them as the embodiment of how you treat others. I have not seen such a response on Lit before, so that makes those words unique unto you.

Like I said, thanks Mischka. I enjoy hearing commentary from people that sit on the sidelines and while others defend the defendless. I will enjoy reading the potshots you and others will no doubt continue with.

Since we haven't interacted to this point, and will probably never again, I'm sure I will get over the way you think about me before too long, especially since you've based your whole opinion on a post I made to prove a point. As always, enjoy your time here.

PBW

 

[estevie]

PB, you've put this thread out here for everyone to read. If you didn't want comments to be made on your behavior perhaps you should have thought twice before behaving this way.

Your thoughts and opinions are your own. But I must say that I'm sadly disappointed to see you acting this way.

If its jumping on the bandwagon to call someone on their utter cruelty to another human being, then its a wagon I'll happily jump upon.

 

[P. B. Walker]

PB, you've put this thread out here for everyone to read. If you didn't want comments to be made on your behavior perhaps you should have thought twice before behaving this way.

Your thoughts and opinions are your own. But I must say that I'm sadly disappointed to see you acting this way.

If its jumping on the bandwagon to call someone on their utter cruelty to another human being, then its a wagon I'll happily jump upon.

You'll have to quote me on where I say I don't want comments, I don't seem to remember saying that.

Gee, I'm sorry. I'll try harder to earn your approval.

I didn't know there was a bandwagon. I'm guessing you'll need a semi-truck to pull it.

Thank you for chiming in.

PBW

 

[estevie]

You'll have to quote me on where I say I don't want comments, I don't seem to remember saying that.

Gee, I'm sorry. I'll try harder to earn your approval.

I didn't know there was a bandwagon. I'm guessing you'll need a semi-truck to pull it.

Thank you for chiming in.

PBW

You didn't say you didn't want comments, but when people give them, you totally dismiss them like they have no standing, I believe you call it 'chiming in'.

You don't need my approval. Just me chiming in with a comment.

You've done yourself a disservice, PB, I'm sorry that you don't see that.


este *the chimer* vie

 

[P. B. Walker]

You didn't say you didn't want comments, but when people give them, you totally dismiss them like they have no standing, I believe you call it 'chiming in'.

You don't need my approval. Just me chiming in with a comment.

You've done yourself a disservice, PB, I'm sorry that you don't see that.


este *the chimer* vie

Yes, exactly. Did I not thank you for chiming in? What would you rather I say to you? I only dismiss people I feel are no longer worth talking to or being around. It may or may not be permanent.

We all are in charge of our own lives and decisions. I can at least walk away from this day knowing it wasn't me cracking the jokes, nor defending those jokes.

Chime away.

PBW

 

[Rambling Rose]

I can at least walk away from this day knowing it wasn't me cracking the jokes, nor defending those jokes.

You may not be cracking or defending jokes (and I tend to disagree with you about exactly what a 'joke' is) but you are increasingly guilty of being a smug, self righteous prick who seems to gain a certain pleasure out of belittling and demeaning anyone who isn't right in line behind you holding stones at the ready.

 

[estevie]

We all are in charge of our own lives and decisions. I can at least walk away from this day knowing it wasn't me cracking the jokes, nor defending those jokes.



PBW

Huh. Well, that says a lot about you.

Enjoy your stay.