Magic Merlin
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Game......Set......Match...........To Deborah!
[Edited by Magic Merlin on 10-22-2000 at 09:35 PM]
[Edited by Magic Merlin on 10-22-2000 at 09:35 PM]
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Whispersecret said:
Whipersecret Wonder Sluth cracks another case. hehehehe
Now I will agree that this all seems to much to be true, and you know without Whisper doing all that I did think it a little odd.
Well Done you smart sexy woman you
Cheyenne, there is a subtle difference (ok, maybe not so subtle) between Another Guest's 2nd and 3rd options.
The second option is someone who has problems and is crying out for help - in a perverted and twisted manner - but it's still a cry for help.
The third option is someone who is sitting at home in front of her computer laughing her ass off because she's fucking with everyone. Someone who's been playing games with everyone for a long time and felt it was time to pull at the 'ol heartstrings and feed everyone a nifty little sob story. She may be pathetic and heartless, but still this is nothing more than a game to her and she has played most of you people for fools. It's definitely not a cry for help. And that's the kind of person Deborah has been talking about all along.
If it's the third option, that person deserves none of our sympathy, help or respect.
I also think it's just a little bit bizarre that Purple Haze's little joke of a few days ago was met with such outrage (but then look who much of that outrage came from), yet this particular "joke" has been condoned by so many. PH's thread was obviously a joke, and it seems pretty obvious now that this particular situation has been nothing more than an attempt to play each and everyone of us for suckers.
Now where's the outrage??
[Edited by Lasher on 10-22-2000 at 10:14 PM]
The second option is someone who has problems and is crying out for help - in a perverted and twisted manner - but it's still a cry for help.
The third option is someone who is sitting at home in front of her computer laughing her ass off because she's fucking with everyone. Someone who's been playing games with everyone for a long time and felt it was time to pull at the 'ol heartstrings and feed everyone a nifty little sob story. She may be pathetic and heartless, but still this is nothing more than a game to her and she has played most of you people for fools. It's definitely not a cry for help. And that's the kind of person Deborah has been talking about all along.
If it's the third option, that person deserves none of our sympathy, help or respect.
I also think it's just a little bit bizarre that Purple Haze's little joke of a few days ago was met with such outrage (but then look who much of that outrage came from), yet this particular "joke" has been condoned by so many. PH's thread was obviously a joke, and it seems pretty obvious now that this particular situation has been nothing more than an attempt to play each and everyone of us for suckers.
Now where's the outrage??
[Edited by Lasher on 10-22-2000 at 10:14 PM]
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Lasher said:
Nope, I disagree, Lasher. There may be a difference between options 2 and 3, but the result is still the same. And I'm not saying that I think option is true. I think anyone who would do what you're describing above is sick and is calling out for help.
Lasher said:
Different types of deceptions. Purple Haze's was just a stupid waste of time and space. It was eventually confessed to.
Not trying to be dramatic, but if the Patryn thing is NOT a joke, it could be a life or death thing. Yes, there are some inconsistancies, but at this point sympathy is what is needed, not outrage.
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Grey, I meant every single thing I put in that first email, and I didn't address it on this board first, you did. Remember that.Grey said:
It isn't a secret that I've posted in another thread that I was suicidal myself about 10 years ago for a brief period of time. I never actually tried to kill myself, but I was very close one night. I believe that incident has made me more sympathetic to anyone who is depressed and certainly to anyone who is suicidal. If you've never been to that black pit of despair yourself, you can't really understand what it feels like. I can.
My email to you said Deborah had described me and my background correctly in her post suggesting you have me verify Patryn's story for the board. I offered to send flowers directly to the hospital on my own if you gave me Patryn's real name. I said I would not mention that I had her real name and had sent flowers on this board if that was her/your choice. I would just send them and keep quiet. Or, I would verify your story on the board, as Deborah suggested, if you wanted me to do that, too. Your choice. You never responded to my email. That's fine, too. I can understand someone not wanting to give out personal information to a stranger. There are very few people on this board who know my full real name. I trusted them first, or they wouldn't have that information.
Yes, I did email you again on Sunday morning to suggest that you post an update as to Patryn's status on the bb. I didn't think I was the only one who was wondering how she was doing. Almost immediately, you started this thread and said she was better and coming home on Monday. And I posted a response saying thank you, and give Patryn my best. That's it. I made no mention of my email to you and the offer of flowers that you never answered.
I came back to the board last night to find you challenging people to find where you said Patryn would be coming home on Monday. I thought that was odd, since I knew you had said so, but I kept reading. One of the next responses pointed out that you edited your post starting this thread. I went back to read your post, and agree that you did edit out the part about Patryn coming home on Monday. That fact is what I posted, still in the form of a question to give the benefit of the doubt. I don't consider pointing out that you did edit your post "talking shit". I most certainly do NOT "talk shit". That isn't my style and you know it.
As you can see from my response to Lasher above, I am probably one of the few people here who still supports you/Patryn in any way shape or form. It doesn't matter to me if "option 1, 2 or 3" is reality. In any of them, you/Patryn are sick and calling out for help. I hope you/Patryn get the help you need. Either currently in the hospital, if that version is true as you claim, or by going to a professional for help, if option 2 or 3 is the truth.
By the way, the original offer from my first email still stands. If you give me Patryn's real name and where she is located, I will send her flowers myself and either post that fact here or never mention it on the board, her choice.
[Edited by Cheyenne on 10-23-2000 at 03:25 AM]
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And this isn't?
Okay Deborah, now you're scaring me. Please, please LET IT GO!!! This is stalking, and it's illegal. It is also bordering on obsession. I never told you what town we lived in, or what her real name was. I never told anyone In fact, I'm not sure anyone here knows that...maybe Laurel. Maybe. But somehow, I don't even WANT to know how, you found out. And you're checking in the wrong town, might I add. [removed] can't handle everything.
This has gone too far. If you want to hear I'm a liar, fine. I'm a liar. If you want to hear I'm Patryn, fine, I'm Patryn. If you want to hear I'm the million and one other people you think I am, I'll say that too. Anything so you just leave us alone. You are NOT helping the situation, which is very real despite what everyone would like to believe and you're scaring the shit out of me. I'll ask you as a human being, regardless of what you think I may have done, to please respect my privacy.
[edited by Laurel]
This has gone too far. If you want to hear I'm a liar, fine. I'm a liar. If you want to hear I'm Patryn, fine, I'm Patryn. If you want to hear I'm the million and one other people you think I am, I'll say that too. Anything so you just leave us alone. You are NOT helping the situation, which is very real despite what everyone would like to believe and you're scaring the shit out of me. I'll ask you as a human being, regardless of what you think I may have done, to please respect my privacy.
[edited by Laurel]
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As enough time has passed since the suicide attempt I'll add some fuel to the fire and do some innocent speculating myself, despite the fact that I asked Deb to stop just last week.
My concern in asing Deb to stop was not for Grey/Raven/Patryn/Leah, but for the people who have expressed sincere empathy -- it didn't seem graceful to call them stupid or "eating shit" when many of them expressed that they didn't care if they were being duped. I still feel that, and for those who've expressed support and concern for Patryn I respect you, and I hope anything I might say doesn't offend you.
This is clearly fascinating, and Deb has made striking points about this situation now and in the past. I have no idea who's right, and until this week I really didn't care all that much. Then again, Leah didn't send me any "stalking" e-mails.
I had several very nice e-mail exchanges with Raven. She seemed interesting, had a web site (which I forget), and even sent me her photo. Through a little inductive reasoning I figured out that she was probably Athos, but I didn't care (mostly, again, because she never "attacked" me).
Grey was always a surly, annoying poster, and it never occured to me that they were the same person, though they did seem to post on the same threads.
As for Patryn, I have no idea. Again, Patryn seemed nice enough, but had a temper and flew off the handle too much. I avoided her, not because I didn't like her, but because she just wasn't someone I needed to converse with (apart from a night of mutual slamming that was at once fun and divisive -- we agreed to stop).
So, WTF does all this mean? Nothing. There's still no proof of anything. But there is an awful lot of conjecture based on circumstantial evidence -- and I think we're all fascinated with the machinations of this supposed conspiracy. And, like the Kennedy Oswald thing, everyone can't help laying out their theories and observations. Here's one of mine...
Grey, you doth protest too much methinks. I dont' know why you keep posting. Your friend's in the hospital, and you must have a lot on your mind -- what the hell do you care what we think? It's clear Patryn had only a few cursory text acquaintances here -- how is keeping them informed helping her? Particularly given your assertion that "Internet Bad".
You also have that O.J. Innocence Rap Thing going on. I know O.J,'s guilty, not because of DNA evidence, but because of how he maintains his innocence, but citing examples of this and that and asking for tolerance and patience and understanding and blah, blah, blah instead of saying "Fuck you! I WANT THE GUY WHO KILLED MY WIFE!!!" He doesn't defend himself in a credible way.
I tell you, if I were accused of what people are accusing you of I wouldn't waste a hell of a lot of time convincing anyone of dick. I'd drop a few nasty e-mails, turn off the 'puter, and go visit my poor friend. Your repeated, oddly-expressed pique (and post editing) only makes me feel that you're sticking around to convince us of something. That's my impression. Sorry.
So, if you're Raven -- I liked you, and send me another e-mail. If you're Leah -- same deal. I never knew Athos. If you're Patryn -- you seemed nice enough. As for Grey, he/she's kind of stick in the mud, though if you're sincere about all this (and you could be), you've shown unusual restraint and maturity and consideration.
So, there you go, more conspiracy ravings from yet another source. I'm off to Loch Ness...
[Edited by Dixon Carter Lee on 10-23-2000 at 10:14 AM]
My concern in asing Deb to stop was not for Grey/Raven/Patryn/Leah, but for the people who have expressed sincere empathy -- it didn't seem graceful to call them stupid or "eating shit" when many of them expressed that they didn't care if they were being duped. I still feel that, and for those who've expressed support and concern for Patryn I respect you, and I hope anything I might say doesn't offend you.
This is clearly fascinating, and Deb has made striking points about this situation now and in the past. I have no idea who's right, and until this week I really didn't care all that much. Then again, Leah didn't send me any "stalking" e-mails.
I had several very nice e-mail exchanges with Raven. She seemed interesting, had a web site (which I forget), and even sent me her photo. Through a little inductive reasoning I figured out that she was probably Athos, but I didn't care (mostly, again, because she never "attacked" me).
Grey was always a surly, annoying poster, and it never occured to me that they were the same person, though they did seem to post on the same threads.
As for Patryn, I have no idea. Again, Patryn seemed nice enough, but had a temper and flew off the handle too much. I avoided her, not because I didn't like her, but because she just wasn't someone I needed to converse with (apart from a night of mutual slamming that was at once fun and divisive -- we agreed to stop).
So, WTF does all this mean? Nothing. There's still no proof of anything. But there is an awful lot of conjecture based on circumstantial evidence -- and I think we're all fascinated with the machinations of this supposed conspiracy. And, like the Kennedy Oswald thing, everyone can't help laying out their theories and observations. Here's one of mine...
Grey, you doth protest too much methinks. I dont' know why you keep posting. Your friend's in the hospital, and you must have a lot on your mind -- what the hell do you care what we think? It's clear Patryn had only a few cursory text acquaintances here -- how is keeping them informed helping her? Particularly given your assertion that "Internet Bad".
You also have that O.J. Innocence Rap Thing going on. I know O.J,'s guilty, not because of DNA evidence, but because of how he maintains his innocence, but citing examples of this and that and asking for tolerance and patience and understanding and blah, blah, blah instead of saying "Fuck you! I WANT THE GUY WHO KILLED MY WIFE!!!" He doesn't defend himself in a credible way.
I tell you, if I were accused of what people are accusing you of I wouldn't waste a hell of a lot of time convincing anyone of dick. I'd drop a few nasty e-mails, turn off the 'puter, and go visit my poor friend. Your repeated, oddly-expressed pique (and post editing) only makes me feel that you're sticking around to convince us of something. That's my impression. Sorry.
So, if you're Raven -- I liked you, and send me another e-mail. If you're Leah -- same deal. I never knew Athos. If you're Patryn -- you seemed nice enough. As for Grey, he/she's kind of stick in the mud, though if you're sincere about all this (and you could be), you've shown unusual restraint and maturity and consideration.
So, there you go, more conspiracy ravings from yet another source. I'm off to Loch Ness...
[Edited by Dixon Carter Lee on 10-23-2000 at 10:14 AM]
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Grey said:
I thought you said you weren't coming back Grey? lol If you want it dropped then stop coming to this thread. People will give up and stop posting when you do. (The more you post, the more they want to respond!) get it?
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At first I was sincerely sorry for what Patryn might have gone through because I too had reached a low point in college, when I had a death in the family, I was in a bad relationship and I was just overwhelmed with other things going on my life and it all seemed to be happening at once. At one point, I did indeed fell like death was the only solution. I will say I have had a pretty good life and it was just a bad patch for me that I soon was able to get over with some counseling. This is not something that I share lightly. The fact that someone else might have felt the way that I did at one point in my life made my heart go out to them. The reason I feel the need to share this is, now that most of use have figured out that this is some sick joke, I just want you to think next time about how it feels to feel that you have no one in this world that can help you, how it feels to wish that you were never born, how it feels to wake up every morning and wish you hadn't and then maybe, just maybe you will understand why there are some very angry people on the board.
You played us for fools, and as I watched your lies unravel (and it did stike me kind of strange that she would be released so early after then not knowing if she would make it or not, and I did notice your edited post) I felt a bit foolish but now all I feel is pity and disgust. You played on people's sympathy for what reason, I have no idea and frankly I no longer care. I do still maintain though that you need some kind of psychological evaluation. Maybe next time if you really do have a genuine problem and want to talk to someone about it, this is not the way to go about it.
You played us for fools, and as I watched your lies unravel (and it did stike me kind of strange that she would be released so early after then not knowing if she would make it or not, and I did notice your edited post) I felt a bit foolish but now all I feel is pity and disgust. You played on people's sympathy for what reason, I have no idea and frankly I no longer care. I do still maintain though that you need some kind of psychological evaluation. Maybe next time if you really do have a genuine problem and want to talk to someone about it, this is not the way to go about it.
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I don't understand the significance of two "people" posting within a few minutes of each other. Can someone explain to me how that suggests that they're the same person? I'm feeling a tad dense.
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Whispersecret said:
Thats Ok some folks find it hard to tell us apart
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You know, I've said this before in the incest threads, and I will say it again here: It's obvious that everyone here feels and thinks what they do. Nothing Grey, or anyone else, says will change that. Whatever the truth is here, it's obvious that NO matter what, Patryn needs help. bottom line. Simple as that. Keeping this thread (or other threads involving Patryn & Grey) alive is not accomplishing anything. Why don't we just let it go now?
~Tiggs~
~Tiggs~
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Deborah said:
I once drove through Pittsburgh, does that count?
Deborah said:
You haven't revealed anything. As it can't be because you want to spare feelings I'm guessing you want to respect Laurel's plea for member privacy. If that not it, then why hold back? What have you got beyond near-time posts and similar styles et. al.?
It's very hard to con me, and it would be fun to know if I actually got taken. E-mail me if you prefer.
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Holy shitters I agree with Ramlick on something of course im semi partial to eastern PA!!
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Well, Wizard and Tiggs just posted within a minute of each other and I know damn well, they're not the same person.
I still don't get the connection.
I still don't get the connection.
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I don't either.
