cantdog
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Up the chain of command from Lynndie
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Pure
Fiel a Verdad
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hey cant, tovaritch,
i worked on the lyndie thing for a while in an earlier thread, in case you care to look at it or bump it.
https://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=246472
PS . nice article; sanchez is already up for 'rotation'; generals don't go to prison, ya know.
i worked on the lyndie thing for a while in an earlier thread, in case you care to look at it or bump it.
https://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=246472
PS . nice article; sanchez is already up for 'rotation'; generals don't go to prison, ya know.
Pure
Fiel a Verdad
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well, cant, is Rummy or Tenet high enough up for ya? see today's news about hiding a prisoner.
Added: Here's the story of the NY TIMES
Rumsfeld Admits He Told Jailers to Keep Detainee in Iraq Out of Red Cross View
By THOM SHANKER
Published: June 18, 2004
[start]
WASHINGTON, June 17 - Senior Pentagon officials acknowledged Thursday that a suspected Iraqi terrorist who was held in a military jail - but kept off prison rosters - should have been registered more quickly with the International Committee of the Red Cross.
But the officials said the fact that the secret detention of the captive, who was jailed near the Baghdad airport without records, stretched for seven months was probably attributable to a bureaucratic breakdown.
Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld said Thursday at a Pentagon news briefing that he ordered the detainee held without a registration number at the written request of George J. Tenet, the director of central intelligence.
At the same briefing, Daniel J. Dell'Orto, the Pentagon's principal deputy general counsel, said the initial decision to hold the detainee without registering him was permissible, at least temporarily, for security reasons.
But he added: "We should have registered him much sooner than we did. It didn't have to be at the very instant we brought him into our custody. And that's something that we'll just have to examine as to whether there was a breakdown in the quickness with which we registered him."
Pentagon officials declined to discuss Mr. Tenet's reason for wanting the detainee, believed to be a high-ranking officer of Ansar al-Islam, a terrorist organization, held off the prison rolls. An agency spokesman said the C.I.A. would have no comment on Mr. Tenet's reasoning.
Mr. Rumsfeld said the detainee, who is still in military detention in Iraq, has been treated humanely. Officials said he was now being registered with the Red Cross.
A Human Rights Watch report last week identified 13 "ghost detainees" taken into United States custody since Sept. 11, 2001. The author of the report, Reed Brody, said the 13 were either being held in undisclosed detention facilities, or the United States government had not acknowledged holding them.[end excerpts]
Added: Here's the story of the NY TIMES
Rumsfeld Admits He Told Jailers to Keep Detainee in Iraq Out of Red Cross View
By THOM SHANKER
Published: June 18, 2004
[start]
WASHINGTON, June 17 - Senior Pentagon officials acknowledged Thursday that a suspected Iraqi terrorist who was held in a military jail - but kept off prison rosters - should have been registered more quickly with the International Committee of the Red Cross.
But the officials said the fact that the secret detention of the captive, who was jailed near the Baghdad airport without records, stretched for seven months was probably attributable to a bureaucratic breakdown.
Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld said Thursday at a Pentagon news briefing that he ordered the detainee held without a registration number at the written request of George J. Tenet, the director of central intelligence.
At the same briefing, Daniel J. Dell'Orto, the Pentagon's principal deputy general counsel, said the initial decision to hold the detainee without registering him was permissible, at least temporarily, for security reasons.
But he added: "We should have registered him much sooner than we did. It didn't have to be at the very instant we brought him into our custody. And that's something that we'll just have to examine as to whether there was a breakdown in the quickness with which we registered him."
Pentagon officials declined to discuss Mr. Tenet's reason for wanting the detainee, believed to be a high-ranking officer of Ansar al-Islam, a terrorist organization, held off the prison rolls. An agency spokesman said the C.I.A. would have no comment on Mr. Tenet's reasoning.
Mr. Rumsfeld said the detainee, who is still in military detention in Iraq, has been treated humanely. Officials said he was now being registered with the Red Cross.
A Human Rights Watch report last week identified 13 "ghost detainees" taken into United States custody since Sept. 11, 2001. The author of the report, Reed Brody, said the 13 were either being held in undisclosed detention facilities, or the United States government had not acknowledged holding them.[end excerpts]
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dr_mabeuse
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Yeah. I think I was wrong and Pure was right. I really thought that this thing went no higher than the local prison commanders, but now it looks like it goes all the way to the top.
I still don't think Bush and Rummy got the details of making the prisoners smear themselves with their own shit, but they must have known in some sort of newspeak that they were being placed under 'duress'.
The whole thing reeks.
---dr.M.
On a more positive note, Cant--I like your new Bosch Av.
I still don't think Bush and Rummy got the details of making the prisoners smear themselves with their own shit, but they must have known in some sort of newspeak that they were being placed under 'duress'.
The whole thing reeks.
---dr.M.
On a more positive note, Cant--I like your new Bosch Av.
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Virtual_Burlesque
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I continue to be unsurprised. The only reason justice might not reach the top, is because someone might be persuaded to throw himself on the grenade, or the investigators may stop pushing.
From the time when the Maher Arar case surfaced, and “extraordinary rendition” was defined, the cat was out of the bag. I’m not especially bright, but it never occurred to me that a procedure that was not particularly hidden in civilian life, would be hidden in its military counterpart.
I think they expected Bush’s statement about the Geneva Convention not covering Al Quieda prisoners to insulate them from repercussions over military torture.
What the administration was not prepared for, was the ease with which digital cameras can distribute images.
Without those images, the torture probably would have been swept away in a flood of obfuscating military euphemisms.
From the time when the Maher Arar case surfaced, and “extraordinary rendition” was defined, the cat was out of the bag. I’m not especially bright, but it never occurred to me that a procedure that was not particularly hidden in civilian life, would be hidden in its military counterpart.
I think they expected Bush’s statement about the Geneva Convention not covering Al Quieda prisoners to insulate them from repercussions over military torture.
What the administration was not prepared for, was the ease with which digital cameras can distribute images.
Without those images, the torture probably would have been swept away in a flood of obfuscating military euphemisms.
