Up in flames: FEMA burns foreign aid

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FEMA is burning hundreds of tons of food from the United Kingdom, Spain, Israel and Italy sent for the victims of Katrina. Here is an article from The Mirror

On well, those damn Brits never could cook.


Up in Flames
By Ryan Parry
The Mirror UK

Tuesday 20 September 2005

Tons of British aid donated to help Hurricane Katrina victims to be burned by Americans.
Hundreds of tons of British food aid shipped to America for starving Hurricane Katrina survivors is to be burned

US red tape is stopping it from reaching hungry evacuees.

Instead tons of the badly needed Nato ration packs, the same as those eaten by British troops in Iraq, has been condemned as unfit for human consumption.

And unless the bureaucratic mess is cleared up soon it could be sent for incineration.

One British aid worker last night called the move "sickening senselessness" and said furious colleagues were "spitting blood".

The food, which cost British taxpayers millions, is sitting idle in a huge warehouse after the Food and Drug Agency recalled it when it had already left to be distributed.

Scores of lorries headed back to a warehouse in Little Rock, Arkansas, to dump it at an FDA incineration plant.

The Ministry of Defence in London said last night that 400,000 operational ration packs had been shipped to the US.

But officials blamed the US Department of Agriculture, which impounded the shipment under regulations relating to the import and export of meat.

The aid worker, who would not be named, said: "This is the most appalling act of sickening senselessness while people starve.
"The FDA has recalled aid from Britain because it has been condemned as unfit for human consumption, despite the fact that these are Nato approved rations of exactly the same type fed to British soldiers in Iraq.
"Under Nato, American soldiers are also entitled to eat such rations, yet the starving of the American South will see them go up in smoke because of FDA red tape madness."

The worker added: "There will be a cloud of smoke above Little Rock soon - of burned food, of anger and of shame that the world's richest nation couldn't organise a p**s up in a brewery and lets Americans starve while they arrogantly observe petty regulations.

"Everyone is revolted by the chaotic shambles the US is making of this crisis. Guys from Unicef are walking around spitting blood.

"This is utter madness. People have worked their socks off to get food into the region.

"It is perfectly good Nato approved food of the type British servicemen have. Yet the FDA are saying that because there is a meat content and it has come from Britain it must be destroyed.

"If they are trying to argue there is a BSE reason then that is ludicrously out of date. There is more BSE in the States than there ever was in Britain and UK meat has been safe for years."

The Ministry of Defence said: "We understand there was a glitch and these packs have been impounded by the US Department of Agriculture under regulations relating to the import and export of meat.

"The situation is changing all the time and at our last meeting on Friday we were told progress was being made in relation to the release of these packs. The Americans certainly haven't indicated to us that there are any more problems and they haven't asked us to take them back."

Food from Spain and Italy is also being held because it fails to meet US tandards and has been judged unfit for human consumption.

And Israeli relief agencies are furious that thousands of gallons of pear juice are to be destroyed because it has been judged unfit.

The FDA said: "We did inspect some MREs (meals ready to eat) on September 13. They are the only MREs we looked at. There were 70 huge pallets of vegetarian MREs.

"They were from a foreign nation. We inspected them and then released them for distribution."
 
color me cynical, but why is NO ONE in the article named?

not a single official?

-alex
 
Alex756 said:
color me cynical, but why is NO ONE in the article named?

not a single official?

-alex

Mainly because there'd be 56 million people just the other side of the Atlantic ready to form a lynch mob at being told that our emergency rations aren't good enough and that the thought is appreciated, but they'd rather let people starve.

This... this is a Railtrack level of incompetence!

The Earl
 
TheEarl said:
Mainly because there'd be 56 million people just the other side of the Atlantic ready to form a lynch mob at being told that our emergency rations aren't good enough and that the thought is appreciated, but they'd rather let people starve.

This... this is a Railtrack level of incompetence!

The Earl

*nods*

but this is a report from the mirror....actually, I take any newspaper report with a hearty pinch of salt. Do we have any other records than this?
 
TheEarl said:
Mainly because there'd be 56 million people just the other side of the Atlantic ready to form a lynch mob at being told that our emergency rations aren't good enough and that the thought is appreciated, but they'd rather let people starve.

This... this is a Railtrack level of incompetence!

The Earl

Why none of the government officials are named?

Why is there nothing that someone can try and CONFIRM this with?

that is my questtion.
 
I cant find anything except the mirror article and people referencing the mirror article.

Isn't this the same paper that said doctors were murdering patients in NO as well? accusations which have no been founded?

-Alex
 
this warehouse in Arkansas is references in a much differant light in this msnbc article. compelte with NAMES of people incuding the name of a truck driver delivering said aid. well as you'll be able to see it didn't go smooth, but *shrug* whatever goes smooth.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9363899/

-Alex
 
Alex756 said:
color me cynical, but why is NO ONE in the article named?

not a single official?

-alex
Isn't "the Mirror" a tabloid that has to fight lawsuits for defamation- constantly? And often loses?
 
The answer's quite simple - don't send the buggers any more. How ridiculous. I can't help but wonder how many lives that food would have saved had it been sent to some poor African country. What a waste.
 
Stella_Omega said:
Isn't "the Mirror" a tabloid that has to fight lawsuits for defamation- constantly? And often loses?


yup, yup, yup and yup.


there may, may be something, maybe, but I don't trust the morror as a source.
 
English Lady said:
yup, yup, yup and yup.


there may, may be something, maybe, but I don't trust the morror as a source.
I did some checking around and couldn't find anything about this.
 
ABSTRUSE said:
I did some checking around and couldn't find anything about this.


I did soem googling, and found nothing either....though the mirror website does cite that its an exclusive story....
 
English Lady said:
I did soem googling, and found nothing either....though the mirror website does cite that its an exclusive story....
*cough* bullshit *cough*
 
Well if it is fiction, it proves how good of a writer Ryan Parry is.

Write what people want to believe, include just enough 'facts' and just enough truth 'yes rations are warehoused in Little rock for distrbution' and viola, people will believe without checking the facts.

Look at the responses in this thread... No innocent until proven guilty going on in some cases.

-Alex
 
Alex756 said:
Well if it is fiction, it proves how good of a writer Ryan Parry is.

Write what people want to believe, include just enough 'facts' and just enough truth 'yes rations are warehoused in Little rock for distrbution' and viola, people will believe without checking the facts.

Look at the responses in this thread... No innocent until proven guilty going on in some cases.

-Alex

Well, to be fair, it was presented as a fact and genuine report. I didn't check the provenence, which doesn't reflect well.

The Earl
 
Alex756 said:
Well if it is fiction, it proves how good of a writer Ryan Parry is.

Write what people want to believe, include just enough 'facts' and just enough truth 'yes rations are warehoused in Little rock for distrbution' and viola, people will believe without checking the facts.

Look at the responses in this thread... No innocent until proven guilty going on in some cases.

-Alex

Perhaps this story isn't 'true', but the really sad part about it is that we have so little confidence in FEMA, and they have shown such incompetence, that we believe it could very well be true. None of us would be particularly suprised if it were true.
 
scheherazade_79 said:
The answer's quite simple - don't send the buggers any more. How ridiculous. I can't help but wonder how many lives that food would have saved had it been sent to some poor African country. What a waste.


Hear, hear.

Let's leave the yanks to break into Neverland and steal candy or into Silicon Valley to steal stuff to trade for candy, and go back to helping East-european orphans and African victims of war and famine.
 
Svenskaflicka said:
Hear, hear.

Let's leave the yanks to break into Neverland and steal candy or into Silicon Valley to steal stuff to trade for candy, and go back to helping East-european orphans and African victims of war and famine.

Um, didn't you just read where it was a Mirror article, and not necessarily true? Or is it more fun to be mad?

Bravo, bullet. You've been reduced to c & p'ing articles from trash press...no surprise there.
 
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cloudy said:
Um, didn't you just read where it was a Mirror article, and not necessarily true? Or is it more fun to be mad?

Bravo, bullet. You've been reduced to c & p'ing articles from trash press...no surprise there.


I'm not mad, just grumpy... and I don't know what Mirror is. Tabloid press? Or just a newspaper with bad reputation?

Didn't mean to offend any american, I was just being disappointed that all that help is being wasted.
 
Svenskaflicka said:
I'm not mad, just grumpy... and I don't know what Mirror is. Tabloid press? Or just a newspaper with bad reputation?

Didn't mean to offend any american, I was just being disappointed that all that help is being wasted.

Yep, tabloid.....I'm sure that article was next to one that was headlined: "My baby's daddy is a two-headed alien!"

Don't be so sure that it is being wasted, at least until it's reported in something a little more reliable than the Mirror.
 
cloudy said:
Yep, tabloid.....I'm sure that article was next to one that was headlined: "My baby's daddy is a two-headed alien!"


That's not true EITHER??? :eek:

All my illusions are falling apart here...
 
LadyJeanne said:
Perhaps this story isn't 'true', but the really sad part about it is that we have so little confidence in FEMA, and they have shown such incompetence, that we believe it could very well be true. None of us would be particularly suprised if it were true.
Actually, in this case I would.
But, there was an article about how Barbara Bush told the White House chef to create a holiday dinner using brand-name foods from some of their big political contributors.
I believed it without question.
(it isn't true, but it's so funny and so plausible)
 
cloudy said:
Um, didn't you just read where it was a Mirror article, and not necessarily true? Or is it more fun to be mad?

Bravo, bullet. You've been reduced to c & p'ing articles from trash press...no surprise there.


I'm so weary.

Half of the U.S. is fighting with the other half, our nation's checking account is overdrawn billions with no end in sight, the future rights of my children are in question because of potential Supreme Court nominees, we have waning support for our hard-working troops overseas, we have hundreds of thousands of people homeless and entire cities destroyed from Katrina (with more hurricane action on the way), and we are attempting to overcome major fuck-ups in our emergency response units - city, statewide and federal.

We're screwed, basically.

But with the fashionable barrage of America-bashing I'm really beginning to feel as if we're being solidly kicked while we're down.
 
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