unwanted pain

[Kailey_86]

J wants me to be able to kneel for a good amount of time but i can't seem to do it. my feet and lower legs end up falling asleep fairly quickly. It becomes very uncomfortable and painful after a short time.
Does anyone else have this trouble?
Is there anything i can do to help with this problem?

 

[Netzach]

1. Tell J - he has the right to know. He may have a workaround.

2. Look up "zazen" and see if anyone who does this incredibly demanding form of kneeling has any insight.

3. Start yoga or basic strength training if you haven't already to help your joints and muscles. Also notice that in yoga class you will usually be offered adjustments and alternates. The wisdom behind this is that not all bodies do all things, especially at the outset of trying to. A more western and hard nosed comment is that your brain is trying to forge new neurological pathways with your body.

Falling asleep has to do with circulation. Excercise may help that, but ordering your blood flow around seems kind of non-productive. You may just not be able to do it exactly as expected.

 

[graceanne]

I can't kneel for long periods of time, not if he's planning on me walking the next day. That said, for kneeling for shorter periods of time there are things I do. One is put a pillow under my knees, so that my feet are off the pillow and my knees are on - it helps keep my legs from falling asleep. Oddly enough the other is use good posture. If' you're slumping you'll wear out your legs faster.

 

[jadefirefly]

I used to be unable to kneel for more than a few minutes at a time. I can manage a good 15 or so now -- mostly just because I wanted to be able to. I developed it because I kneel a good deal at work (no smartassed comments, please! ) and over time, it just got easier.

I learned a couple of weeks ago that it really is easier to kneel for longer periods of time if one maintains, as said above, really good posture; think traditional japanese. The obi in kimono garb provides some excellent lower back support, which makes a huge difference!




Or you could request kneepads?

 

[MasterPhoenix]

Time and practice are the best things. Aslo follow other better suggestions on this thread.

 

[SweetErika]

Putting a small pillow between the back of the calves and butt can be helpful as well, IME.

You might also ask your Dom if you can switch between a few positions - maybe traditional kneeling, being up on your knees, resting your chest on the ground, all fours, sitting "criss cross applesauce" or with your ass on the ground and legs crossed in front of you, etc.

 

[lil_slave_rose]

J wants me to be able to kneel for a good amount of time but i can't seem to do it. my feet and lower legs end up falling asleep fairly quickly. It becomes very uncomfortable and painful after a short time.
Does anyone else have this trouble?
Is there anything i can do to help with this problem?

i do have a problem kneeling for long periods of time, i have a very bad knee, that swells up and is very painful. though Master does make me kneel, He knows of my knee trouble and can tell when im' starting to hurt too much (usually because i'll move around alot switching from knee to knee *giggles*) and He'll usually have me stand and move onto something else and go back to kneeling later. i also use a really fluffy pillow to kneel on instead of the hard floor, this helps me last a little longer 'on my knees' as it takes away alot of the pressure on my knees. in order for there to be anything done about it to make it easier your Dom needs to be sympathetic to your issues and maybe he could find other ways to have you kneel. sometimes Master has me on all fours after my knee starts hurting too badly this will allow me to put a little of the strain on my arms instead of all of it on my knees, or have me change 'kneeling positions' instead of 'kneel spread' He'll have me go into 'kneel up' i'm not sure if you use any of these or not...but my suggestion would be to talk to your Dom and see if He has any suggestions for you. Master tries not to keep me on my knees (especially in one position) for too long.

 

[the captians wench]

I can't kneel for long periods of time, not if he's planning on me walking the next day. That said, for kneeling for shorter periods of time there are things I do. One is put a pillow under my knees, so that my feet are off the pillow and my knees are on - it helps keep my legs from falling asleep. Oddly enough the other is use good posture. If' you're slumping you'll wear out your legs faster.

I was going to sujest the same thing. Posture is a real key with me, and even how I kneel. I can stay kneeled up off of my feet for a lot longer than I can when I sit on my feet. If I sit on my feet the my circulation gets cut off and my feet fall asleep. But I can only kneel up so long and then my back aches because I don't always practice good posture in day to day life, so under most eyes I'm allowed to swap back and forth as needed so that I can maintain for a couple of hours.

I would ask J if there are other poses you can try. You may find in one you can last an hour where as another only 5 mins.

 

[Blushing Bottom]

I'm seeing that this is a common problem and thank you all for your insights. I used to think I was a bad subbie because I could not kneel for more than 5 minutes due to compound reasons but the most bothersome...circulation. For that reason alone S never pushes the kneeling issue but makes sure I know my place at all times.

I too find that the kneel-up position easier to sustain than the kneel-spread and when occupied with other things I can forget about the price I'll pay if I kneel too long. Thankfully S is always aware of my comfort or lack of it and desires that I only feel discomfort when it is supposed to be part of our activity, as in punishment, which by the way rarely happens. He understands the body being a health care professional and would never cause me irreparable damage.

I sit at his feet often and he finds that entirely acceptable but when it comes to servicing him he prefers me on my knees for at least part of the service. Be creative, you'll find something that works.

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[liberatedslave]

You could also try taking cod liver oil or a similar supplement to keep your joints as supple as possible. It even comes in tasteless capsules now

 

[Kailey_86]

Thanks for the suggestions everyone. J also suggested i do some stretching. He said i should try kneeling for periods of time during the week so i would get used to it. i haven't had to spend much time kneeling in the past. He wants me to be able to kneel for a good amount of time but He is also concerned about my comfort. i will try these things out. i hope i can please Him. If not, He understands in this situation.

 

[chris9]

You could try to kneel on a small padded bench, like in Catholic church. You won't sit on your heels while kneeling this way, so the traditional spread legs kneeling position won't happen. It won't hinder the circulation in your legs and feet though, but you do need some strength in your back to pull it through for a longer time. (Can anyone tell I'm a Catholic girl?) A strong back won't hurt at all though... Yoga is great for all of this. You practice sitting in positions that will hinder circulation, but get used to it (or trained or whatever, circulation will get better). You learn to relax in difficult positions. You become more flexible and stronger.

 

[myinnerslut]

over the summer and the begining of the year this year Sir had me kneel for five minutes ever day. this made kneeling so much easier. practice, and starting small. we had to stop doing that for other reaons, but while it lasted i found kneeling was easy for me.

 

[Etoile]

If he didn't understand, I would be worried how much he really cares about you. There are physical limitations that everyone has, and getting mad at somebody because they can't kneel properly for a long time is utterly pointless. Fortunately you said he does understand, so he's a smart guy. But anybody who would punish you for something you're physically incapable of is not worth dating!

 

[Kailey_86]

If he didn't understand, I would be worried how much he really cares about you. There are physical limitations that everyone has, and getting mad at somebody because they can't kneel properly for a long time is utterly pointless. Fortunately you said he does understand, so he's a smart guy. But anybody who would punish you for something you're physically incapable of is not worth dating!

i agree....who was this message directed towards though? i don't think J would ever punish me for physically being unable to do something.

 

[Etoile]

i agree....who was this message directed towards though? i don't think J would ever punish me for physically being unable to do something.

It was directed towards you, and I know he wouldn't - that's what I said. It was just hypothetically speaking. If he would punish you, then that would be crazy of him. It was just making it up to make a point, see?

 

[Kailey_86]

It was directed towards you, and I know he wouldn't - that's what I said. It was just hypothetically speaking. If he would punish you, then that would be crazy of him. It was just making it up to make a point, see?

Ahh, gotcha. i didn't think that's what you thought. Just checking. Thanks.