Underage incest fantasys

[amicus]

Ami -

You have pretty much ruined your chances of serious discussion on Lit.

Once you stated you pretend to be Liberal on a different forum, and something else on another forum, you played out your hand.

Troll.

Go away.

How disappointing you are. No substance at all.

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SSS, I could care less what you think but I do not recall using the word, 'pretend', although it is possible I did.

Actually it all began in my Junior year in college, a long time ago, a linguistics professor teaching verbal communication and comprehension passed out a list of controversial subjects to the class and asked each to take a side to argue.

He then reversed what everyone said, requiring us to defend the opposite view we held. I learned a lot from that class, and my motto since has been, 'known thine enemy'. Thus I do argue from the opposite viewpoint on many occassions and I always win, whichever side I choose to take, here or there.

You might try it sometime, it truly widens ones perspective and brings a greater understanding of opposing viewpoint.

I am sure none of that interests you however, now you know.

Amicus...

 

[Stella_Omega]

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SSS, I could care less what you think but I do not recall using the word, 'pretend', although it is possible I did.

Actually it all began in my Junior year in college, a long time ago, a linguistics professor teaching verbal communication and comprehension passed out a list of controversial subjects to the class and asked each to take a side to argue.

He then reversed what everyone said, requiring us to defend the opposite view we held. I learned a lot from that class, and my motto since has been, 'known thine enemy'. Thus I do argue from the opposite viewpoint on many occassions and I always win, whichever side I choose to take, here or there.

You might try it sometime, it truly widens ones perspective and brings a greater understanding of opposing viewpoint.

I am sure none of that interests you however, now you know.

Amicus...

I've never seen your viewpoint widen in anyway.

I've never seen a hint that you "know your enemy" or, indeed, who your enemies might be.

You have never won an argument-- although I've seen you say you've won, when everyone around you has washed their hands of your bullshit. You'll probably claim that you've won this one, when the truth is that several more people have given up on you as a waste of time.

And you are right-- you are not interesting, now that we know.

 

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[ms.read]

im to lazy to actually find the actal post in which you did post that YOU PRETEND to be something your obviously not, amicus, but it is on this very thread. and you say that you don't name call, but you do.

eh... seems to me that you're full of air just like the rest of us.

So blow me.

 

[emap]

Ummm guys, we can talk about underage sex in the forums, we can write a story about underage sex, we just can't have graphic descriptions of underage sex. Which in a way ruins the underage sex story that is accepted at literotica because it's not stroke material so everybody hates it.

If I really wanted to I could write up a story talking about a girl who lost her virginity at 12, had sex alot until something happened that she stopped wanting sex for a while, then met a wonderful guy who reawakened her desire for sex. I could even talk about all the different guys she has sex with before her 18th birthday, just can't describe it in detail. Would make for rather short sex scenes of course but it is possible to post such a story.

There are two limiters on underage sex, it cannot be described in much detail, and it cannot be the main focus of the story. Which means a 40 year old married father cannot have sex with his wife while fantasizing and picturing his 16 year old daughter under him.

 

[ms.read]

Ummm guys, we can talk about underage sex in the forums, we can write a story about underage sex, we just can't have graphic descriptions of underage sex. Which in a way ruins the underage sex story that is accepted at literotica because it's not stroke material so everybody hates it.

If I really wanted to I could write up a story talking about a girl who lost her virginity at 12, had sex alot until something happened that she stopped wanting sex for a while, then met a wonderful guy who reawakened her desire for sex. I could even talk about all the different guys she has sex with before her 18th birthday, just can't describe it in detail. Would make for rather short sex scenes of course but it is possible to post such a story.

There are two limiters on underage sex, it cannot be described in much detail, and it cannot be the main focus of the story. Which means a 40 year old married father cannot have sex with his wife while fantasizing and picturing his 16 year old daughter under him.

that sounds like the best story i will ever read

 

[elsol]

That having been said, it seems to me that our culture needs to decide what's really real. No jurisdiction prosecutes a 14-year-old girl for having sex with a 19-year-old man -- only the MAN gets an arrest record, yet both he and the girl consented to and acted in the same sexual contact. They are equally "guilty" in this, but she goes free. That's a load of crap.

Legally, a minor cannot consent.

That's the issue at hand; a minor is treated as a non-adult by many (if not most) laws that deal with them.

 

[amicus]

Legally, a minor cannot consent.

Elsol, take a little wider perspective and take into consideration the influence women have had in legislation for the past almost hundred years.

I their quest for equality and protection of the 'weaker' sex, they have managed finally to lock up girls until age 18 legally. to use your chosen word.

All the while, girls entering puberty, remain as they always have, sexually curious and active when the emotion rises and in women, emotions control all.

Just something for you to think about as you want to punish the errant male for falling victim to a ferromone laden female of whatever age.

Ami...

 

[elsol]

I their quest for equality and protection of the 'weaker' sex, they have managed finally to lock up girls until age 18 legally. to use your chosen word.

33 states place the unrestricted age of consent at 16.
9 states place the unrestricted age of consent at 17.
9 states place the unrestricted age of consent at 18.

(D.C. is in there because it has its own law.)

IMO: That's not a very solid finally.

 

[amicus]

33 states place the unrestricted age of consent at 16.
9 states place the unrestricted age of consent at 17.
9 states place the unrestricted age of consent at 18.

(D.C. is in there because it has its own law.)

That's a really weak finally.

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I won't question the accuracy of your search, Elsol, and of course you have a point to make in performing it. Fine.

We, in America, live in a representational Republic, not a democracy, or a nation with an overpowering central authority; there are States rights, that once upon a time held more sway in events than they do now.

It is a messy and very complex political system wherein the voting public of each separate State make decisions from the bottom up, not the top down.

My point was, that even at that level, since women were granted the right to participate in political decisions, their influence has been noticeable.

That feminine influence, and women do have a different political agenda than men, has changed society in many ways, some good, some not so good.

Some of them I question, and have doubts about.

Don't you?

Amicus...

 

[Guest]

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SSS, I could care less what you think but I do not recall using the word, 'pretend', although it is possible I did.

Actually it all began in my Junior year in college, a long time ago, a linguistics professor teaching verbal communication and comprehension passed out a list of controversial subjects to the class and asked each to take a side to argue.

He then reversed what everyone said, requiring us to defend the opposite view we held. I learned a lot from that class, and my motto since has been, 'known thine enemy'. Thus I do argue from the opposite viewpoint on many occassions and I always win, whichever side I choose to take, here or there.

You might try it sometime, it truly widens ones perspective and brings a greater understanding of opposing viewpoint.

I am sure none of that interests you however, now you know.

Amicus...

From his other post about this topic.

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Old 12-18-2007, 12:12 AM #28
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ms.read...that is a lovely photo of snow on the roof, just lovely, thank you.

However...I think your own words define you as both a zealot and an ostrich, regardless of your disclaimers.

There are, no doubt, people who abuse children and I do not condone that in the least and feel as you do, that they should be punished to the full extent.

But I am not blind to the facts that human sexuality begins long before the magical 18th birthday.

Since I think you are well read then I will not posit ignorance of history but a choice to ignore that very young girls have always been given in marriage to older, sometimes very old men, or instructed in sexual activities by a family member while still very young. These things were not just perversions or abuse or cruelty and your indignation and revulsion has, I would suggest other, deeper roots than an intellectual conclusion.

Again, as a devil's advocate, (you should see the fur fly when I pretend to be a socialist or a modern liberal on other forums), I suggest an entire realm of fiction writing about introducing young girls to sexual delights is totally ignored, in part, because of the new womens liberation movement that classifies all men as evil animals, with only one thing on their minds.

Food for thought perhaps?

ami
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This is just something many of us have suspected for years about you, ami. You generally take the opposing viewpoint on a thread just to stir up shit.

You're a troll. Pure and simple.

No substance, just the fluff you generally accuse many female types around here of possessing.

 

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[amicus]

Quoting for posterity.

Dear sweetsibsarahh...Happy New Years to you and yours...

You folks have been calling me a 'Troll' since I had the audacity about four years ago to challenge the supremacy of the feminist movement in my thread the Feminist Mistake, so what else is new?

Anyone that dares disagree with the usual suspects liberal mantra is immediately classified a Troll, as if the AH were the province of Liberals only.

It ain't.

What you are overlooking in my dual role ability, is that the left wing socialist arguments are so easy to defeat yet I can take them as my own and bluster about a forum as the 'usual suspects' do here and overwhelm the opposition.

I rather pride myself on that skill and it does give me a fine edge in thwarting each new attack on human dignity you folks come up with.

Ami...

 

[Stella_Omega]

You've never thwarted a thing. You've never won an argument. You've never garnered the least bit of respect for your position, party, or platform.

And now I am sure that you have no party, platform or position, any way. It's all an act, and you cackle with glee anytime some sucker attempts to answer you carefully, with reason and content-- because really, you don't care.

 

[Selena_Kitt]

This thread has seriously deteriorated...

 

[Stella_Omega]

This thread has seriously deteriorated...

It's better now that you're here...

 

[MzDeviancy]

No one has a hissy fit about writing about it, discussing it (what else have we been doing here?) -- but when people want to post erotic stories featuring underage characters here, we remind them that literotica won't allow it.

It has nothing to do with LMN, it has everything to do with the preferences of the owners of lit.

And it's no big whoop.

I respectfully beg to differ. I once asked in this forum how I could get around the no minor sex in stories rule, because I had a story where I felt that the sexual conflict the girl experienced with her brother as a teenager was central to the story. I believe there were other comments to the same effect, but the one that stands out in my mind was something along the lines of 'People who write stories about minors should be shot!'. It was definitely not just a friendly reminder that Lit doesn't allow minor sex.

Now, on a completely different topic: I think everyone needs to ignore Amicus until he puts on his big boy pants and learns to play nice.

 

[Stella_Omega]

I respectfully beg to differ. I once asked in this forum how I could get around the no minor sex in stories rule, because I had a story where I felt that the sexual conflict the girl experienced with her brother as a teenager was central to the story. I believe there were other comments to the same effect, but the one that stands out in my mind was something along the lines of 'People who write stories about minors should be shot!'. It was definitely not just a friendly reminder that Lit doesn't allow minor sex.

Now, on a completely different topic: I think everyone needs to ignore Amicus until he puts on his big boy pants and learns to play nice.

Maybe it stands out because it was so different than the main tone of the thread? There've been some similar opinions expressed in this thread too-- but they are opinions and you have a perfect right to dissent. I said something knee-jerk way back in the beginning, and Danielle called me on it.

 

[gauchecritic]

I said something knee-jerk way back in the beginning, and Danielle called me on it.

Which doesn't often happen because she actually denied the following even when shown the proof of posting in a thread entitled "Writing and Orgasm: What's not to like?" begun by McKenna.

The Gauchecritic and I have been lovers for more than 18 years, despite his recent gender transformation he remains the greatest lover I have ever had the pleasure to orgasm with. And I mean orgasm, those back-arching, muscle tearing, sweat laden orgasms which last for 14 minutes and leave you unconscious at the end. He is also the father of my triplets.

(which incidentally culminated in a cat-fight between those two when they met at Literoticon 01 in Harrysburg PA. Photos on request)

 

[Stella_Omega]

Which doesn't often happen because she actually denied the following even when shown the proof of posting in a thread entitled "Writing and Orgasm: What's not to like?" begun by McKenna.


(which incidentally culminated in a cat-fight between those two when they met at Literoticon 01 in Harrysburg PA. Photos on request)

I just want you to know, I'm suing for child support. You'll hear from my lawyer shortly. And my chiropractor sends his love; you've made him a lot of money on my account.

 

[SlickTony]

a minor is treated as a non-adult by many (if not most) laws that deal with them.

Except in the realm criminal justice; in America, the age at which a kid can be tried as an adult seems to get lower every year. So, whether a minor is treated as a non-adult merely depends on who is beating whom over the head for what reason.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Except in the realm criminal justice; in America, the age at which a kid can be tried as an adult seems to get lower every year. So, whether a minor is treated as a non-adult merely depends on who is beating whom over the head for what reason.

We're moving into Dickensian times.

 

[SlickTony]

We're moving into Dickensian times.

It's got to stop somewhere. Let's hope it happens before we find ourselves accepting something really barbarous.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Except in the realm criminal justice; in America, the age at which a kid can be tried as an adult seems to get lower every year. So, whether a minor is treated as a non-adult merely depends on who is beating whom over the head for what reason.

Generally speaking, only the worst of the underage criminals is treated as an adult. It is a shame, but if you have a 17 year old with a seven year record of violent crime, I say lock the bastard up. If you don't, and just send them to reform school for a couple of years, they'll be that much worse and a lot smarter when they get out out. Notto mention the injuries they will inflict on others while locked up.

 

[WRJames]

Here is an interesting twist on the Lolita theme -- evidence (?) that Nabokov was himself a victim of chil molestation, and that the Lolita story was his way of talking about his own experience:

Solving Nabokov's Lolita Riddle