Underage incest fantasys

[emap]

Ummm yeah OK Ami it is official you have gone over the deep end.

So about the marrying people like your dad or mom, or both trend. Think about it this way, most people do not react well to change. Think about it, how well do you sleep in a new house the first night? If you grew up in a small town and then move to a city right off a major road, how well do you sleep that first few nights?

There is a reason people tend to pick people like their parents. It reminds them of home, they feel at ease and safe. It's not because we all want to screw our parents or vice versa, it is simply a comfort factor.

So let's talk about incest for a minute. Anybody know why it was so prevalent long ago before there were cities and cars? I'll say it just in case Ami comes back.

Incest was prevalent long ago because you had big families generally with kids of close age and the closest neighbor generally was a days ride or more. When puberty hits those hormones go into overdrive and well in case you forgot, horny is almost a constant thing. When you have nothing to look at but your brother or sister and parents, who are having sex semi often and well let's just say seeing them in action isn't that hard. It's rather a given that the brother and sister are going to follow along with their parents as soon as they can.

Not to say it was just brother and sister, brother and brother and sister and sister happened as well, hormones and hornyness are rather not caring what the other person looks like, they just want another person.

So penis envy, honestly I've never had that. I am addicted to it of course but different thing.

 

[starrkers]

Typical diversionary tactics when you folks have been stymied with a concept beyond your comprehension, not surprising.

What will all the boy/boys, girl/girls, and bi's here, a heterosexual discussion concerning the attraction of youth is truly beyond your ability without the guilt associated with seducing young same sex victims.

No wonder you don't feel comfortable discussing the issue.

Toodles...



Ami...

Oh look, someone got in a snit because we changed the subject without asking him first and he's taken his bat and ball and gone home.

So, where were we?

Oh yeah, that handy device for taking on picnics... hmm I can honestly say the only times I wished I had one were so I could pee in the weeds without either soaking my shoes or getting grass up the arse.
I'm quite happy to borrow when I want one.

 

[amicus]

emap

Ummm yeah OK Ami it is official you have gone over the deep end.

flibbertigibbet



ami

 

[Pure]

ami, again,

Typical diversionary tactics when you folks have been stymied with a concept beyond your comprehension, not surprising.

What will all the boy/boys, girl/girls, and bi's here, a heterosexual discussion concerning the attraction of youth is truly beyond your ability without the guilt associated with seducing young same sex victims.

No wonder you don't feel comfortable discussing the issue.

Toodles...

ami with these talk-show moves, transparent provocations.

beyond ami, the rightwing speech maker, the 'o tempore o mores' lamenter, is something more fundamental.

as this thread attests: whether he's corrected, laughed at, whatever. it doesn't matter. the attention, particularly of females, whatever form it takes, is the one thing always sought.

 

[cantdog]

And, it is tedious. Why do you feed this parasite?

 

[amicus]

Ah, Pure Evil steps in to bolster his flagging troops...master of messianistic missions of mercy for the mundane.

Just watched "Breezy" again, stumbled on it by accident, William Holden, Kay Lenz, a 1973 film about Maym December romance, bit of a tear jerker.

Wrote and posted a bit of free verse, "Dancing with a Girl", got some nice comments, cheered me a bit...started a story about a married religious woman who had a burning yearning in her eyes, forever young am I, I am, I Yam, I Yam, Popeye the Sailor Man, ah, to be in that swabby uniform again...sighs...

Yes, indeed, Pure, talk show patter, I was so very entertaining with it, wowed the girls, made em weak in the knees with just my voice.

Not much interesting on this thread, bunch of jaded perverts afraid of their hidden shadows.

I'm sure they appreciate you taking a turn at bat.

Amicus...

 

[amicus]

And, it is tedious. Why do you feed this parasite?

Geez, cant, why not steal my favorite word looter also to go along with parasite?



ami

 

[starrkers]

And, it is tedious. Why do you feed this parasite?

I've tried to treat his posts as an academic exercise in argument, but every time they degenerate into petty name calling. It took a while, but I have learned my lesson.

 

[amicus]

I've tried to treat his posts as an academic exercise in argument, but every time they degenerate into petty name calling. It took a while, but I have learned my lesson.

~~~

Aww, shucks, starrkers, I had a small sliver of hope that the tiny thread of rationality I thought I perceived in you would grow.

I present a position, in opposition to the coven of liberals here, and they pounce, with pejoratives and name calling and I should turn the other cheek or go tits up?

If you follow any of my continued postings you will note that I never initiate rude behavior, never, but also, I never fail to respond in kind to the brutes.

But, if you feel more secure cozying up to the herd, then by all means do so, who needs you anyway?

Amicus...

 

[cantdog]

no sarcasm intended

If one were of an ascetic turn of mind, the challenge of remaining civil and taking his posts seriously could be a substitute for the hairshirt, maybe.

There's generally a redeeming feature to everyone somewhere, however inadequately redeeming it might turn out to be in the larger picture.

Incest is less of a problem, the wider and especially the more accessible the social matrix is. There's a book of Innu myths, for instance, where nearly three-quarters of the stories are cautionary tales about incest. Innu spend long winters in comparative isolation for long periods, and as emap mentions, in such conditions the subject does come up.

Many of the auntie incest stories from south Asia come from a situation where one is cramped into small quarters with family members. Certainly India can't compare for long winters with northern Québec or Labrador. This being shoved together seems to be the factor, more than simple isolation. Nothing propinks like propinquity.

 

[oggbashan]

...

Many of the auntie incest stories from south Asia come from a situation where one is cramped into small quarters with family members. Certainly India can't compare for long winters with northern Québec or Labrador. This being shoved together seems to be the factor, more than simple isolation. Nothing propinks like propinquity.

From the Indian Yahoo adult groups I visit, "Auntie" seems to equate to the US term "MILF". "Aunties" are desirable ladies in their 30s and 40s but actual relationship does not seem to be required.

When I was younger, most of my parents' friends were referred to as "Uncle" or "Aunt". It took me years to work out which of them were actual relations however distant. I seemed to have dozens of uncles and aunts. I suppose that "Aunt" is an acceptable term for my mother's cousin by marriage.

Eventually I managed to sort out the relations from the friends but there were so many. At my parents' Golden Wedding celebrations there were nearly 400 guests who were genuine relations (and they had to hold another party for those who were "friends").

There seemed to be an unending supply of attractive female "cousins" who weren't actually close relations.

Og

 

[Pure]

OK, women of AH,

I present a position, in opposition to the coven of liberals here,

ami's in position, hands and knees, begging for it. get your strapons and give the man's butt some attention. thanks in advance.

males had best stay away, regardless of inclination, to avoid cock-rot.

 

[cantdog]

Golly, Pure! I thought you were advocating against female attention?

 

[Stella_Omega]

Typical diversionary tactics when you folks have been stymied with a concept beyond your comprehension, not surprising.

What will all the boy/boys, girl/girls, and bi's here, a heterosexual discussion concerning the attraction of youth is truly beyond your ability without the guilt associated with seducing young same sex victims.

No wonder you don't feel comfortable discussing the issue.

Toodles...

ami with these talk-show moves, transparent provocations.

beyond ami, the rightwing speech maker, the 'o tempore o mores' lamenter, is something more fundamental.

as this thread attests: whether he's corrected, laughed at, whatever. it doesn't matter. the attention, particularly of females, whatever form it takes, is the one thing always sought.

Jeeze, Pure!

Why bother posting this? As if it needed to be said-- not.

 

[xssve]

Why, Ami, do you feel I'm trying to 'emasculate' you? I'm not attacking your virility in the least, I'm challenging your intellect.

Um, because he's a dickhead? Lol.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Um, because he's a dickhead? Lol.

Take note; A man said that, not a woman. Lol!

edited to ask;

Do men ever worry about being emasculated by other men? Or are they only afraid of women?

 

[cantdog]

I remember being very worried about it once. But it was neither man nor woman, but a fence rail with rusty nails sticking from it.

A secure man doesn't even think about whether he's being emasculated or not, in the sense you mean, though. I cannot be thus affected. I know who and what I am; affecting that just isn't within the scope of what other people can do.

 

[Varian P]

Do men ever worry about being emasculated by other men? Or are they only afraid of women?

Being a woman, I can't speak to this from experience, but I do think it's telling whenever a man thinks the cruelest possible disparagement is to imply someone is gay or female, or that their supposed shortcoming stem from being gay or female.

 

[cantdog]

Being a woman, I can't speak to this from experience, but I do think it's telling whenever a man thinks the cruelest possible disparagement is to imply someone is gay or female, or that their supposed shortcoming stem from being gay or female.

Insecurity is its own form of torture.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Insecurity is its own form of torture.

Now you're making me feel bad. For about a half-second.

Here we have a poster who prides himself on his irascibility and devil's advocacy (I.E. trolling the rest of the forum). He seems to think that people will suddenly take him seriously just because he demands it. Likewise, he feels, evidently, that discussion on a topic, even a controversial topic such as sex with young girls, should take the form of agreement with whatever he says.

A portrait in self deception.

 

[cantdog]

Perhaps he is capable of being emasculated that way, by someone typing into a box on a computer in another state. If so, it is, as Varian says, telling.

If the theater is on fire, you know, it's only reasonable to let people know. Keep typing into the box. People are supposed to be able to handle it. Grown men, especially, one would have thought. Ah, well. Not your responsibility, but his.

 

[Selena_Kitt]

Wow, Ami, you really led this strange dug-up thread quite a ways, didn't you?

I just truly hate censorship of any kind and to listen to my righteous colleagues on the forum decry even the thought, disturbs me.

It disturbs me as well. I keep reminding myself "Don't go there" but I inevitably do, because my outrage at censorship overrides my common sense.

Well, I oughta leave the young girl alone, but ain't no sunshine when she's gone..." sighs...

I wouldn't begin to surmise at what approximate age the female body begins to fantasize lust and passion to the extent of losing mental focus on the rights and wrongs of actions but simply seeks satisfaction or release, perhaps a female lurker would venture an opinion.

If I told you on a personal level, you probably wouldn't believe me. And it would put all of the people reading who have been victims and can't separate themselves from their victimhood into a tizzy... so I won't go there...

And I wondered why the abject resistance to admission that society has always worshiped innocent young virgins, spontaneously emoting the freedom and innocence of youth and why we all crave it so.

Let me just say that I see and feel the resistance you're speaking of, Ami.

I for one worship youth and beauty and I wish to explore the very human appreciation for it and the promise it holds to renew us as we move on in life, as too, will they, those young spirits that inspire us to remember the dreams of youth.

Yes, yes, yes! It is the puer, the archetypal energy we want to tap into... the psyche doesn't care if it happens in the inner or the outer world. It is only the function of our ego that gives us our discretion.

The idea that children are not emotionally capable of dealing with relationships -- sexual or just romantic -- and/or "aren't ready for marriage" is because "western societies" has put legal and cultural barriers to preparing them for more mature roles in life...The social changes that have happened in my lifetime are for the most part good changes -- child and spouse abuse are no longer open secrets but punishable crimes -- but the trend of "protecting" children from life and responsibility for their actions because "they're too young to understand" is IMHO destroying society.

This is brilliant. Brilliant! Bravo, man!

I just get angry at people who equate fantasy with reality. Or those who consider that technically illegal consensual sex between teenagers, one of whom is slightly over legal age, and the other slightly under, is paedophilia and equal to the brutal rape of a small child by a predatory adult.

I can imagine doing all sorts of horrific things with no intention whatever of doing them. I can write about incest and non-consent, or weird fetishes, with no desire to practise what I write about.

Thinking is not doing.

Thank god for Ogg. A-freaking-men.

I was glad to see such thoughtful and open posts here on the subject, and not a flame war. I was scared when I saw the posts had gone to 5 pages already!

 

[amicus]

[QUOTE=SelenaKittyn;25342134]Wow, Ami, you really led this strange dug-up thread quite a ways, didn't you?



It disturbs me as well. I keep reminding myself "Don't go there" but I inevitably do, because my outrage at censorship overrides my common sense.







If I told you on a personal level, you probably wouldn't believe me. And it would put all of the people reading who have been victims and can't separate themselves from their victimhood into a tizzy... so I won't go there...



Let me just say that I see and feel the resistance you're speaking of, Ami.



Yes, yes, yes! It is the puer, the archetypal energy we want to tap into... the psyche doesn't care if it happens in the inner or the outer world. It is only the function of our ego that gives us our discretion.



This is brilliant. Brilliant! Bravo, man!



Thank god for Ogg. A-freaking-men.

I was glad to see such thoughtful and open posts here on the subject, and not a flame war. I was scared when I saw the posts had gone to 5 pages already! [/QUOTE]


~~~

Thank you dear Selena, from me and also for your kudo's to Ogg and Wierd, and the many others who dare not speak on this thread.

I am going to attempt to divert scorn and wrath directed your way for your courage to speak, by asserting my arrogance yet again.

While I am greatly gratified by your kind comments and appreciate them beyond expression, I do not require nor seek the approval of others to support my contentions and viewpoints.

While much of what I posted was couched in terms of inquiries into the nature of the subject and little was presented as axiomatic truths, there is still the underlying value of human individual self esteem and dignity that courses through all my expositions, and, to the best of my ability, remain consistent with the knowledge I have acquired.

Warmest regards;

Amicus...

 

[Guest]

While much of what I posted was couched in terms of inquiries into the nature of the subject and little was presented as axiomatic truths, there is still the underlying value of human individual self esteem and dignity that courses through all my expositions, and, to the best of my ability, remain consistent with the knowledge I have acquired.

Warmest regards;

Amicus...

This I have seen.

 

[Selena_Kitt]

This I have seen.

indeed.