Under the heading of, "I told you so."

[Ishmael]

The illegals flooding the border are disease ridden, illiterate, and with a large percentage of criminals. I suspect even the most ardent of the 'open border' crowd know this from the news. Or maybe they're sticking their head in the sand in perpetual denial.

The polls are daily turning against the notion of allowing these illegals to stay, 59% now want them returned to their home countries NOW. Not later, but now!!. Over 80% want the borders brought under control. 60% consider border control very important. 63% want to end federal funding to 'sanctuary cities."

After the national debate in 2005-2006 I'm amazed that the republicans even considered buying into the democrat notion of 'comprehensive immigration reform.' Did they really think that the electorate had come down with a case of mass amnesia? And it sure as hell isn't an issue that the democrats can run on this fall, that card is out of play now. Even many democrat governors are turning against the notion and telling the Feds, "Don't send any to my state."

Yet in spite of the feelings of the American public the administration appears to be hell bent for leather to legalize these hordes. They've tried to muzzle the press and even members of congress, not to mention various government employees, but the nightmarish stories keep rolling out. I don't see this ending well for the democrats. What issue are they going to fall back on now?

Ishmael

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

The illegals flooding the border are disease ridden, illiterate, and with a large percentage of criminals. I suspect even the most ardent of the 'open border' crowd know this from the news. Or maybe they're sticking their head in the sand in perpetual denial.

The polls are daily turning against the notion of allowing these illegals to stay, 59% now want them returned to their home countries NOW. Not later, but now!!. Over 80% want the borders brought under control. 60% consider border control very important. 63% want to end federal funding to 'sanctuary cities."

After the national debate in 2005-2006 I'm amazed that the republicans even considered buying into the democrat notion of 'comprehensive immigration reform.' Did they really think that the electorate had come down with a case of mass amnesia? And it sure as hell isn't an issue that the democrats can run on this fall, that card is out of play now. Even many democrat governors are turning against the notion and telling the Feds, "Don't send any to my state."

Yet in spite of the feelings of the American public the administration appears to be hell bent for leather to legalize these hordes. They've tried to muzzle the press and even members of congress, not to mention various government employees, but the nightmarish stories keep rolling out. I don't see this ending well for the democrats. What issue are they going to fall back on now?

Ishmael

1. Who said any of them would stay? Those who have a legal right to be here will stay, those who don't will be returned from where they came.
2. Who exactly has wanted to "legalize these hordes"?
3. I find it amazing that immigration is the only issue I've ever seen you adopt this stance on. In every other issue you have the opposite view.

 

[Que]

1. Who said any of them would stay? Those who have a legal right to be here will stay, those who don't will be returned from where they came.
2. Who exactly has wanted to "legalize these hordes"?
3. I find it amazing that immigration is the only issue I've ever seen you adopt this stance on. In every other issue you have the opposite view.

1. Which ILLEGAL aliens have the "legal right to stay?'

2. YOU.. (see your #1.)

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

1. Which ILLEGAL aliens have the "legal right to stay?'

2. YOU.. (see your #1.)

The ones who have a legal right to be here.

 

[Skiddles2014]

1. Which ILLEGAL aliens have the "legal right to stay?'

2. YOU.. (see your #1.)

Oh fuck.

You've been chatting with vettebitch too long, the stupid has taken over.

 

[Que]

The ones who have a legal right to be here.

People with the legal right to stay are not illegal immigrants. They have visas, green cards, or immigration papers.

How many of the 20 million or so people that are here illegally do you expect to see deported?

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

People with the legal right to stay are not illegal immigrants. They have visas, green cards, or immigration papers.

How many of the 20 million or so people that are here illegally do you expect to see deported?

I agree, those that are have a legal right to be here are not illegal immigrants.

No clue.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Grampa Cancer Nugget sure hates them beaners.
:nods:

 

[Skiddles2014]

Grampa Cancer Nugget sure hates them beaners.
:nods:

I love how angry he is these days.

 

[Que]

I agree, those that are have a legal right to be here are not illegal immigrants.

No clue.

More than 5? More than 100? Do you think even 1000 will be deported, what with not even those with US criminal records being departed and all?

Rob sure makes frequent, gratuitous use of derogatory racial slurs, wouldn't you agree?

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

More than 5? More than 100? Do you think even 1000 will be deported, what with not even those with US criminal records being departed and all?

Rob sure makes frequent, gratuitous use of derogatory racial slurs, wouldn't you agree?

My answer to that question hasn't changed in the last five minutes.

That has nothing to do with the conversation. If you have issues with Rob address them with him.

 

[RobDownSouth]

I love how angry he is these days.

As the cancer continues to ravage his body to the point where his physical rot is now equal to his spiritual rot, I believe we're seeing a return to "Classic Ishmael", the bitter angry buffoon lashing out indiscriminately that we all knew from back around 2004.

He's dying, soon they'll take his prostate out and he realizes he's likely seen his last erection, which will no doubt cause dismay for some of the women in his trailer park and delight for far more.

 

[doctor_insanus]

Yeah...

Fuck you.

 

[Que]

My answer to that question hasn't changed in the last five minutes.

That has nothing to do with the conversation. If you have issues with Rob address them with him.

Minimum quantities is another question: I am inquiring on the absolute floor on deportations...you have NO idea whether even 5 illegals will be deported?

If so i makes sense that you cant estimate "more than 100" or "more than 1000".

Do you think it is possible the answer is ZERO?

So, clearly, Rob's race-baiting doesn't bother you. Noted.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Minimum quantities is another question: I am inquiring on the absolute floor on deportations...you have NO idea whether even 5 illegals will be deported?

If so i makes sense that you cant estimate "more than 100" or "more than 1000".

Do you think it is possible the answer is ZERO?

So, clearly, Rob's race-baiting doesn't bother you. Noted.

For the third time, I have no clue. I have no insight into how many people will be deported, and let's be honest, neither do you.

Dude, seriously, stop ascribing people positions they haven't adopted. I never said anything close to that.

 

[Que]

For the third time, I have no clue. I have no insight into how many people will be deported, and let's be honest, neither do you.

Dude, seriously, stop ascribing people positions they haven't adopted. I never said anything close to that.

So you CAN picture a scenario where NONE are deported.

If that happens why waste money on lawyers...just let them be free-range illegals, like the rest of them. If they aren't going to get kicked out..(and they won't)..why do they need "refugee status?"

And one HAS to ascribe SOME position to you because you never commit to one. It's part of your schtick...ask random, leading questions that reveal your posiition and always deny ANY characterization of your position.

PICK.

A) You want ALL of them, and the next 100k, 200k, 1 million...pick a number.

B) You want SOME deported...which ones, why?

C) you want all of them deported.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

So you CAN picture a scenario where NONE are deported.

If that happens why waste money on lawyers...just let them be free-range illegals, like the rest of them. If they aren't going to get kicked out..(and they won't)..why do they need "refugee status?"

And one HAS to ascribe SOME position to you because you never commit to one. It's part of your schtick...ask random, leading questions that reveal your posiition and always deny ANY characterization of your position.

PICK.

A) You want ALL of them, and the next 100k, 200k, 1 million...pick a number.

B) You want SOME deported...which ones, why?

C) you want all of them deported.

Let's be honest, you don't read other people's posts. I'm not the only who who has told you that you're ascribing people positions they haven't adopted.

My position from my first post in this thread has been that Ish is wrong, and I laid out why I think he's wrong.

A. I don't have to pick a number.
B. What I want isn't relevant. Some will be deported & some won't be.
C. Ascription.

I don't have play your ascription through multiple choice game.

 

[Skiddles2014]

For the third time, I have no clue. I have no insight into how many people will be deported, and let's be honest, neither do you.

Dude, seriously, stop ascribing people positions they haven't adopted. I never said anything close to that.

He has mental issues.

He ascribes you a position so he has a reason to whine and complain.

He usually falls flat on his face when does, as seen here.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Minimum quantities is another question: I am inquiring on the absolute floor on deportations...you have NO idea whether even 5 illegals will be deported?

If so i makes sense that you cant estimate "more than 100" or "more than 1000".

Do you think it is possible the answer is ZERO?

So, clearly, Rob's race-baiting doesn't bother you. Noted.

Well at least 40 have already been deported. I think it's a safe bet to expect thousands will be turned away maybe tens of thousands.

 

[unregistered]

 

[RobDownSouth]

Been saying for ages that a majority of those coming across the southern border were illiterate in their own language. The language they do speak might not even be universally understood outside of their own villages or locales as well.

Them beaners are nothing but savages, amiright Mr. Not-a-racist?

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Been saying for ages that a majority of those coming across the southern border were illiterate in their own language. The language they do speak might not even be universally understood outside of their own villages or locales as well.

That doesn't mean they can't enter the country legally.

 

[Que]

Let's be honest, you don't read other people's posts. I'm not the only who who has told you that you're ascribing people positions they haven't adopted.

My position from my first post in this thread has been that Ish is wrong, and I laid out why I think he's wrong.

A. I don't have to pick a number.
B. What I want isn't relevant. Some will be deported & some won't be.
C. Ascription.

I don't have play your ascription through multiple choice game.

"Ish is wrong" (who was posting about the desireability of the latest influx) is not a position on whether they should or should not be deported.

I should have given option "D" I have no idea.

I correctly identified that refuse to take positions. Which is fine. That is why most smart people don't bother answering your leading "questions"

Since you don't take a position it isn't a debate. Simply becomes endlessly defending ones own position to someone who doesn't actually care about the position.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

"Ish is wrong" (who was posting about the desireability of the latest influx) is not a position on whether they should or should not be deported.

I should have given option "D" I have no idea.

I correctly identified that refuse to take positions. Which is fine. That is why most smart people don't bother answering your leading "questions"

Since you don't take a position it isn't a debate. Simply becomes endlessly defending ones own position to someone who doesn't actually care about the position.

Oh, so you just don't like honest & direct discussions. Even after bullet pointing my position you want to ascribe me a different one.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Been saying for ages that a majority of those coming across the southern border were illiterate in their own language. The language they do speak might not even be universally understood outside of their own villages or locales as well.

I admit I haven't spent any time further south than Mexico, are there ANY languages that are that local in South America? (Ignoring that one tribe that we found a few years back, they obviously don't count.) I thought the entire place had been more or less colonized and between Spanish and Portegese you had a near sure bet someone would understand you (and that the lines there are fairly easy to follow.)