UK EU Referendum

[Jaime_H]

A referendum is being held on Thursday, 23 June to decide whether Britain should leave or remain in the European Union.
This is your chance to predict the outcome of how the Brits will vote even though 90% of the country hasn't the foggiest what is at stake.

Vox Populi!!!


By the way..... This is just for fun so don't take it too seriously. It just us Brits who have to live with the consequences.

 

[ayame34G]

It may be close but I think UK is going to stay.

 

[numeniusa]

I'm hoping it will be like the Scottish Referendum. We were up in Scotland about a fortnight before, and the 'Yes' campaign was everywhere, posters, leaflets and campaigners in every town square... But of course, voting 'No' was kind of unpopular, feared to be somehow insufficiently Scottish perhaps? So people didn't really broadcast their intentions to do so. But vote 'No' they did...

I hope we vote to stay, I really do. Voting out will fuck up the country for a decade, and Scotland might even vote to leave the UK at that point...

Feeling kind of tense about it all.

 

[Hornblende]

I'm really hoping that the electorate sees sense and votes to remain in the E.U. If not we're fucked for at least a generation.

 

[Leigh81]

Remain

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[Susurration]

Remain, and that's how I will be voting.

 

[papadoc19]

If I were a Brit, I would vote to leave but the bulk of the establishment institutions (political parties, media, business) back it so ultimately I think the stay will carry the day.

Just curious for those one support it, why do you back the EU as an institution?

 

[Hornblende]

If I were a Brit, I would vote to leave but the bulk of the establishment institutions (political parties, media, business) back it so ultimately I think the stay will carry the day.

Just curious for those one support it, why do you back the EU as an institution?

• Firstly, and most importantly, it has helped to keep peace between the major countries in Europe.
• It has brought a more enlightened approach to human rights and responsibilities.
• It has enabled freedom of travel between countries (single currency, "open" borders).
• It has promoted multiculturalism and tolerance. You may disagree, but I think is is unequivocally a good thing.
• It has been a significant force in environmentalism.
• It has prevented most companies from forcing us to work excessive numbers of hours.
• It has improved consumer protection and enforced sensible food labelling standards.
• It has provided money to regenerate areas in industrial decline.
• It has ensured that people can't evade their responsibilities (e.g child maintenance) by skipping to another European country.
• It has brought us lower (and soon no) mobile roaming charges in Europe.
• It has helped us to feel more united as a continent. I am, in order, Northern (!), English, British, European and a world citizen.
• It has moderated the right-wing fuckery of our Tory administrations.

I could go on, but I'll spare you. I'm off to another thread to discuss fucking now...

 

[Jaime_H]

Interesting comments. I obviously keep the wrong company. My darts team can't wait to be out.... is it that just 'man talk'?

 

[papadoc19]

• Firstly, and most importantly, it has helped to keep peace between the major countries in Europe.
• It has brought a more enlightened approach to human rights and responsibilities.
• It has enabled freedom of travel between countries (single currency, "open" borders).
• It has promoted multiculturalism and tolerance. You may disagree, but I think is is unequivocally a good thing.
• It has been a significant force in environmentalism.
• It has prevented most companies from forcing us to work excessive numbers of hours.
• It has improved consumer protection and enforced sensible food labelling standards.
• It has provided money to regenerate areas in industrial decline.
• It has ensured that people can't evade their responsibilities (e.g child maintenance) by skipping to another European country.
• It has brought us lower (and soon no) mobile roaming charges in Europe.
• It has helped us to feel more united as a continent. I am, in order, Northern (!), English, British, European and a world citizen.
• It has moderated the right-wing fuckery of our Tory administrations.

I could go on, but I'll spare you. I'm off to another thread to discuss fucking now...

Do you think the EU was a bigger factor in maintaining the peace between European nations than the presence of a large American military force (located in the heart of potentially most dominant nation, Germany)?

 

[Hornblende]

Do you think the EU was a bigger factor in maintaining the peace between European nations than the presence of a large American military force (located in the heart of potentially most dominant nation, Germany)?

Yes, I do. I think it was/is a much bigger factor. Peace doesn't always need military power to enforce it.

 

[Ask For More]

I'm voting to stay in too. Pretty much all I think has been stated above.

The US army being in Germany is a total non factor to the peace. It is never mentioned with regards to policy. Suggesting it does affect the peace seems like a pretty American thing to say.

 

[papadoc19]

I'm voting to stay in too. Pretty much all I think has been stated above.

The US army being in Germany is a total non factor to the peace. It is never mentioned with regards to policy. Suggesting it does affect the peace seems like a pretty American thing to say.

Neutralizing the largest potential military force was a non factor in fostering an environment that would alleviate fears about the resurgent Germany and becoming more economical dependent on it? Really?

 

[Ask For More]

Neutralizing the largest potential military force was a non factor in fostering an environment that would alleviate fears about the resurgent Germany and becoming more economical dependent on it? Really?

Are you referring to this in a historical context? Immediately post second world war perhaps, but if you mean in the last 23 years of the current European Union, then it's a total non factor.

 

[papadoc19]

Are you referring to this in a historical context? Immediately post second world war perhaps, but if you mean in the last 23 years of the current European Union, then it's a total non factor.

There were fears about the reunification of Germany in the 90s...

 

[Ask For More]

There were fears about the reunification of Germany in the 90s...

Short lived fears. And not affected by the military presence. The Germans were too busy trying to rebuild their infrastructure after uniting to consider any sort of aggression. Not to mention the numerous treaties they signed which were all very accommodating.

 

[soulflower]

If we vote out its like chopping our dicks off just to annoy Europe.

 

[Jaime_H]

I'm in shock......

clearly Lit users are not representative of the UK populace....

 

[numeniusa]

Shock is a good word for it. Doesn't feel real yet. Can't quite believe it's happened.

 

[meop79]

why??

 

[Jaime_H]

Shock is a good word for it. Doesn't feel real yet. Can't quite believe it's happened.

I really am. I feel quite trembly. It's weird. I am beset by apathy....

 

[Jaime_H]

why??

For me, I don't like uncertainty.

I guess in a few hours, providing the sky doesn't fall on my head, I'll be fine..

 

[meop79]

For me, I don't like uncertainty.

I guess in a few hours, providing the sky doesn't fall on my head, I'll be fine..

lol...

It's the end of the EU as we know it,
It's the end of the EU as we know it...
It's the end of the EU as we know it, and you'll be fine...

 

[lovetopleasewomen]

Well, that happened. And now I am hearing that France is talking about walking. The thing you have to look closely at is who will profit from this. It won't be the citizens. But no matter what, the governments of the world will still be owned, controlled & manipulated by the global banking cartel.

 

[PeteHulbert37]

Short term messy for long term bliss.

Think of it as being married to a psycho, and you just both agreed to get divorced.