UK can't fly today. The Icelandic Gods have spoken...

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A huge cloud of ash from a volcano in Iceland turned the skies of northern Europe into a no-fly zone on Thursday, leaving hundreds of thousands of passengers stranded.

An eruption on Wednesday, the second in a month, from below the Eyjafjallajokull glacier hurled a plume of ash six to 11 kilometres (3.8 to 7 miles) into the atmosphere, and this spread south east overnight.

No flights are allowed in British air space, except in emergencies, from 12 p.m. until at least 6 p.m. as the ash spreads across the country, the National Air Traffic Service (NATS) said.

A NATS spokeswoman said it was the first time "within living memory" that a natural disaster had caused Britain to halt flights into its airspace. British airspace was not even closed after the September 11, 2001, attacks on U.S. cities, she said.

Airline staff at Stansted airport told customers it could be closed until Sunday, said stranded passenger Andy Evans.

"People just don't know what to do," he said. "There are hundreds of people in the queues at the sales desks."

Last year, British airports handled around 6,000 flights a day, according to data from the Civil Aviation Authority.

Volcanic ash contains tiny particles of glass and pulverised rock which can damage engines and airframes.

In 1982 a British Airways jumbo jet lost power in all its engines when it flew into an ash cloud over Indonesia, gliding inexorably towards the ground before it was able to restart its engines.

The incident prompted the aviation industry to rethink the way it prepared for ash clouds, resulting in international contingency plans activated on Thursday.

WIDESPREAD DISRUPTION

Paris, Brussels, Amsterdam and Geneva airports said they had cancelled a large number of flights.

Airspace in northern Sweden was closed and trans-atlantic flights were taking a longer route south to avoid the cloud, a spokesman for Arlanda airport in Stockholm said.

Swedish airports authority Swedavia said it expected the cloud would eventually force the closure of the airport at Gothenburg on Sweden's west coast later in the day.

A spokeswoman for Scandinavian airline SAS, the shares of which were down almost 7 percent, said the group expected to cancel hundreds of flights.

The eruption has grown more intense, University of Iceland volcanologist Armannn Hoskuldsson said.

To the east of the volcano, thousands of hectares of land were covered by a thick layer of ash, while a cloud was blotting out the sun in some areas along the southern coast of Iceland, local media reported.

All air traffic in and out of Norway's main Oslo Airport was cancelled while flights from Denmark's Copenhagen airport were also severely disrupted.

Finland's airport manager Finavia said northern Finland's air space would be closed until 1200 GMT on Friday, and Finnair said it had cancelled several domestic and international flights.

The Danish part of North Sea air space has been closed, Danish air traffic controller Navair said, with the entire Danish air space due to be closed by 1600 GMT.

A spokeswoman for the German air traffic body said there were no immediate plans to shut German airspace.

Eurostar, the rail company, said it had received a big boost due to the disruption to air travel, with hundreds of enquiries from stranded passengers trying to enter or leave Britain.

(Reporting by London, Dublin, Paris, Oslo, Stockholm, Helsinki, Amsterdam, Brussels, Geneva and Copenhagen newsrooms, Writing by Kylie MacLellan; editing by Robert Woodward)


Is this Iceland's revenge for their banking crisis?

Og

PS It might be my fault. Yesterday afternoon I washed the salt spray off my house's windows. Today they are covered in a film of volcanic ash. I should have left the window cleaning until the weekend.
 
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Ye gods! Is everyone from Iceland on okay? Breathing okay? Volcanic ash is not something to sneeze about...well, okay, it might make you sneeze, but you get my point.

Watch the air quality Europeans!
 


Og

PS It might be my fault. Yesterday afternoon I washed the salt spray off my house's windows. Today they are covered in a film of volcanic ash. I should have left the window cleaning until the weekend.


Og, the ash only starts at 30,000 feet! How tall is the Og Palace?

Sorry if that's tetchy. Just sitting at Schiphol hoping vainly for a flight back to Boston.

Why can't Europe deal with a bit of inclement weather. In February I was so relieved the guys back home couldn't see the icing sugar snow that brought major metropolises to a standstill. We coped inDC with 30 inches!

Joke apart, I'm glad I'm safe on the ground rather than having the engines cut off at 30,00 feet.
 
What goes up has to come down, and down it is coming...

Og

Without being nasty, if it's coming down on you, perhaps I'll get into the great, blue yonder before I need botox and wrinkle cream.

It's just frustrating looking up into a clear blue sky and being told it's too dangerous to take off.

Just a 'tweet' from a frustrated passenger.
 


http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/bsp/hi/dhtml_slides/10/iceland_volcano/img/1iceland_volcano466.jpg


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8622978.stm

...UK airspace was shut down to all but emergency flights from midday (1100 GMT) on Thursday to 0700 BST (0600 GMT) on Friday, at the earliest. It was also closed in Ireland.

“Volcanic ash represents a significant safety threat to aircraft,” said the UK’s Air Traffic Control Service (Nats).

COUNTRIES AFFECTED
Airspace closed:
UK
Republic of Ireland
Norway

Partial or planned closures:
Sweden (total closure by 2000 GMT)
Denmark (total by 1600 GMT)
Finland (northern airspace closed till 1200 GMT Friday)
Belgium (total from 1430 GMT)
Netherlands (being shut progressively)
France (northern airports by 2100 GMT)

Oslo airport, which is Norway’s largest, was closed on Thursday morning, meaning Norwegian airspace was completely closed.

Belgium, Sweden and Denmark announced they would be shutting their entire airspace, northern Finland was closed and the Netherlands was being closed progressively.

French aviation officials said on Thursday afternoon that the main airports in Paris and other airports in the north of the country were to be closed...
 
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Og, you tell us the gods have spoken, but which gods? We'll need to know that if we're going to sue for the inconvenience and endangerment caused us by their brash actions. I'm sure the signatories of the Kyoto accord will want a run at them as well; after all, these deities have messed up the emission reduction plans.
 
While Icelandic Lit users presumably make their offerings to the goddess Frigg, I suspect the hand of Njord, god of wind and sea, in this outpouring of volcanic ash.

P
 
...Volcanic ash contains tiny particles of glass and pulverised rock which can damage engines and airframes...


One of the experts on the morning talk shows mentioned that it's not just the abrasive effect of the ash that causes problems. Jet engines are hot enough to melt the ash, which then condenses and solidifies on interior engine surfaces, clogging them up. Rather like plaque in an artery, I suppose.
 
On a more reasonable note, the TV series Mayday aired an episode about British Airways Flight 9 that ran into volcanic ash over the Indian Ocean, thrown up by an eruption of Mount Galunggung in Indonesia. (June 24, 1982)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Airways_Flight_9

Because the ash was dry, it didn't show up on the aircraft's weather radar. All four engines of the Boeing 747 went out. The flight deck crew had no idea what was happening, except that they and the cabin crew noticed strange lights glowing around the exterior of the plane. This was an effect similar to St. Elmo's fire as the plane flew through the ash.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d7/747-ba9.png/260px-747-ba9.png

The flight was able to land safely after a harrowing series of engine restarts and more failures. It wasn't until the airplane and the engines were examined that the cause of the near catastrophe was figured out.
 
The volcano has been erupting for days but has recently been far more active.

The ash I'm getting is days old but presumably was not in sufficient quantities to affect aircraft engines.

I'm going to dig out my dust mask before the rest of the ash arrives.

Latest position is that all aircraft are grounded in UK until at least 1300 hours tomorrow GMT. What happens after then depends on wind direction. If the wind still doesn't change, aircraft might not be allowed to take off tomorrow afternoon either.

Og
 
You know what's awesome about this?

There's no way of teling how long that thing will spew ashes. It can be over in a day. Or not. Last time it erupted, close to a century ago, it lasted a year.

Imagine all air travel within, in and out of northern Europe being shut down for months. Or on and off depending on the weather. Schweet.
 
Og, you tell us the gods have spoken, but which gods? We'll need to know that if we're going to sue for the inconvenience and endangerment caused us by their brash actions. I'm sure the signatories of the Kyoto accord will want a run at them as well; after all, these deities have messed up the emission reduction plans.

I suspect that Cthulu may have a limb in it somehow.
I cannot see Isis or Nephthis, Annubis or even Set bothering that much.
Now, Marduk, on the other hand. . . . .
 
You know what's awesome about this?

There's no way of teling how long that thing will spew ashes. It can be over in a day. Or not. Last time it erupted, close to a century ago, it lasted a year.

Imagine all air travel within, in and out of northern Europe being shut down for months. Or on and off depending on the weather. Schweet.

Depending on the wind direction it could be Canada and the US within days.

Eurostar trains, P & O Ferries, Seafrance and Norfolk Line crossing from Kent to Calais are doing record business.

It reminds me of that often quoted English newspaper headline "Fog in Channel - Europe cut off".

Og
 
You don't want to mess with Surtur.

Pele's been egging him on. She's been in almost constant eruption for ages and getting all the TV credits.

Now the question is if it erupts for, say, a month anna half, how many degrees will the ambient temperature of the earth drop? And about that Ice Age that Global Warming was supposed to prevent . . . :rolleyes:
 
"..."At the moment this is a relatively small eruption, not as big as some in the past from Iceland," said Colin Macpherson, a geologist at the University of Durham in England. Experts were monitoring to see possible impacts of ash on health.

A poison cloud from the eruption of Iceland's Laki volcano in 1783-84 killed thousands of people across Europe and undermined farm output by spewing an estimated 120 million tonnes of sulphur dioxide into the air, he said..."

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This particular piece had overtones of AGW, so I chose not to spread the propaganda...:)

Amicus
 
Gaia is not pleased. She demands a human sacrifice to appease her. Volunteers? :rolleyes:
 
http://iceland.vefur.is/iceland_nature/geology_of_iceland/index.htm

Iceland is one of the most active volcanic regions on Earth. It is estimated that 1/3 of the lava erupted since 1500 A.D. was produced in Iceland. Iceland has 35 volcanoes that have erupted in the last 10,000 years. On average, a volcano erupts about every 5 years. Eleven volcanoes have erupted between 1900 and 1998: Krafla, Askja, Grimsvotn, Loki-Fogrufjoll, Bardarbunga, Kverkfjoll, Esjufjoll, Hekla, Katla, Surtsey, and Heimaey. Most of the eruptions were from fissures or shield volcanoes and involve the effusion of basaltic lava.

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Just in case you are not a nerdy as I am concerning such things....

Amicus
 
Just heard from my parents in Germany. They are saying that the airport in Frankfurt may be closed for at least several days because of this eruption.

Cat
 
My daughter and son-in-law are due to fly to Chicago on holiday next week, then would be taking a train to California.

Will they be able to fly? If not, their holiday will be ruined and getting time off together is very difficult.

Og
 
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