Mr.G
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I think the "what mother would KNOWINGLY put their child at risk.?" sums up my concerns. Did you take the time to actually READ the stats on premies, still births and spontaneous terminations? Those stats tell me that many of those situations are OF UNKNOWN CAUSE. I do NOT want my TRY THIS technique to be one of them. I am VERY sorry you consider my response offensive however I choose to err on the side of caution. Nor do I butter up my answers or insulate them for the people out there who are so PC they wouldn't recognize an on-coming train if the engine was black. I do NOT want anybody emailing me with bad news and if I come across as tactless I'd rather have that accusation than a "Your TECHNIQUE aborted my baby!!!" email.
I DO hope you understand. MANY women and many doctors do NOT know that G-Gasms are push out muscle contractions and very forceful at times. It mimics childbirth. The rest is just an extrapolation of the LOST ART of common sense.
No I am NOT a parent. What possible difference does that make to this discussion? My concern is for ANY baby out there who could possibly be harmed by the orgasm resulting from a GSpotting. The stats are too damn high to take those kinds of chances on an UNKNOWN and babies are too precious to GAMBLE with. Just my opinion and again I am NOT sorry you find my concern shocking and upsetting. Just TRY and understand what I'm saying.
I am NOT, as your email seems to imply, saying that natural childbirth resulting in an orgasm is likely to kill your baby. If you read that into my post may I suggest a class in reading comprehension. I have included a recent study on FOX NEWS about Orgasmic Childbirth. I wish you ALL the luck in the world pursuing that. Just be damn careful with the pre-game show. I will NOT enjoy coming on here and saying, " I TOLD YOU SO." If nothing happens then that's great.
AS far as "I know my body" .. fine. I've never claimed to know any woman's body better than she does herself (as long as she KNOWS about GSpots before) . If it feels right, fine. Good. However, your sensitivities aside, if my warning prevents just ONE premature baby (or worse) out there, I think I can live with you being upset and shocked at my attitude.
**one more edit to show how ridiculous .. and dangerous this can be**
And exactly WHAT gives YOU the knowledge that every woman reading this is, has or WILL experience a healthy low risk pregnancy? What I said to snowvixen .. there are women who never see a doctor during their pregnancy due to finances or location. There are women who go VERY VERY quickly from no-problem, low risk pregnancy to complications. I'm glad you happen to be so healthy an know EXACTLY what your body and every other woman's body is going to do during pregnancy and / or during G-Gasms. I'm only human, mortal and don't even have the ALL-KNOWING advice that some doctors think they have. I'm JUST trying to be careful. In my uneducated opinion it just is NOT worth the risk when so many factors are still unknown.
Snowvixen said:
I'm NOT suggesting an orgasm is going to squirt the baby out. That's idiotic. What I'm saying and have been saying is that G-Gasms mimic the muscle contractions used during child birth. The stats show a HIGH percentage of pregnancies that terminate for UNKNOWN REASONS. If the body, for whatever reason, mistakes a G-Gasm for the readiness to give birth (don't forget all the hormones that are released too) then THAT could be initiated by the body resulting in a severely premature birth.
If many doctors don't know the difference between the types of orgasms then how can they waive off on these types of orgasms? They can't. Also if those percentages of "terminated by/for UNKNOWN CAUSES" don't sound just a tad scary and worthy of some EXTRA caution when you know how G-Gasms, work then go ahead. It's up to YOU of course. I stand by my warning for mothers who don't particularly want to play Russian Roulette with their pregnancy.
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FOXSexpert: Orgasms During Childbirth? It Happens
Monday, January 05, 2009
By Yvonne Fulbright
"Orgasmic" isn't exactly the first word most women use to describe childbirth. Yet thanks to a new DVD, "Orgasmic Birth," we're learning that birthing has perks beyond the miracle of life. For some women, this includes actual orgasms during delivery.
Regarded as "the best kept secret" of childbirth, women are curious about this seemingly unimaginable experience. How can childbirth possibly be climactic?
No matter how you look at it, birth is a sexual experience. That's going to make many of you cringe, but biologically it makes sense. The pleasures of birth allow for better mother-infant bonding. Far from perverse, orgasmic pleasures are a continuation of the act of conception itself. They're in the best interest of the baby, and an ideal starting point for healthy family relationships.
Orgasmic birth appears to be part of Mother Nature's master plan. Research conducted by Dr. Beverly Whipple in 1989, as well as others, indicates that orgasms can be induced in some women during childbirth. It is believed that this happens because of pressure from the baby's head on its mother's all-important hypogastric and pelvic nerve systems.
These nerves play a part in a woman's ability to experience vaginal, cervical and G-spot orgasms. Explaining orgasmic birth, OB-GYN Dr. Christiane Northrup said that as the baby moves through the birth canal, it actually stimulates all the pathways involved in sexual pleasure. Plus the stages of natural childbirth mimic one's normal sexual response in some ways; for example, breathing becomes faster and deeper.
Throw into the mix the release of oxytocin during childbirth and you have an even greater love-fest potential come delivery, D-day. This hormone lends itself to the uterine contractions and nipple erection a woman experiences during childbirth.
Furthermore, it dulls pain, actually producing stronger, more effective, even pleasurable contractions. Best yet, it can also make for orgasmic sensations, especially with the increase in ecstasy-producing beta-endorphins.
So now for the million-dollar question ... How does a woman experience such an orgasm? Strategies include:
— Overcoming your fears.
— Recognizing that you are a sexual being throughout pregnancy.
— Embracing the idea of over-the-top pleasure during childbirth.
— Allowing yourself to be open to orgasm.
Couples need to be given the privacy to boost the flow of oxytocin. This can be achieved via kissing, caressing and massage. Some couples even have intercourse prior to the water breaking.
Such affectionate exchanges allow the woman's partner to participate more in the birthing process, adding to this shared experience even more. The touching and nurturing can be very comforting to both partners.
In investigating "unexpected birthgasm" — spontaneous climax during labor without stimulation — Dr. Danielle Harel found that such a "passionate birth" involves a supportive partner who does things like hold her. Women who have birthgasms have a good sex life and are fully educated about childbirth.
Critical to Harel's findings is that the woman uses sexual stimulation to ease contractions, instead of anesthesia. According to the authors of "The Unofficial Guide to Having a Baby," one orgasm is believed to be 22 times as relaxing as the average tranquilizer.
Obviously, the birthing environment needs to be safe, secure, and uninterrupted. Keeping the delivery space stress-free is vital, since this helps to keep fear hormones that block oxytocin in check. These hormones prevent oxygen-rich blood from flowing to the uterus and sex organs, thwarting the body's ability to give birth smoothly.
More than anything, women who want to experience orgasmic births need to take control of their pregnancy and childbirth. Instead of handing their bodies over to medicine to speed labor, they need to work with non-interventive doctors or midwives. Synthetic hormones can actually make for contractions that are more painful, causing problems like rupture of the uterus.
Whether or not you hope to orgasm, couples need to investigate all of the different ways a woman can give birth. They are entitled to an experience that is positive and pleasurable. Childbirth can be approached as an event to be enjoyed and not something that women have to endure.
Childbirth can be emotionally, physically AND sexually fulfilling. Simple awareness of orgasmic birth may increase your chances of such a response. At the same time, women should be careful not to set themselves up for feelings of failure if they don't have an orgasm. When it comes to childbirth, everyone needs to expect the unexpected.
Dr. Yvonne K. Fulbright is a sex educator, relationship expert, columnist and founder of Sexuality Source Inc. She is the author of several books including, "Touch Me There! A Hands-On Guide to Your Orgasmic Hot Spots."
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,476244,00.html
... i actually found you quite offensive - what expectant mother would knowingly put her child at risk - telling my my child will likely die really isnt a tactful thing to say - are you a parent?
I think the "what mother would KNOWINGLY put their child at risk.?" sums up my concerns. Did you take the time to actually READ the stats on premies, still births and spontaneous terminations? Those stats tell me that many of those situations are OF UNKNOWN CAUSE. I do NOT want my TRY THIS technique to be one of them. I am VERY sorry you consider my response offensive however I choose to err on the side of caution. Nor do I butter up my answers or insulate them for the people out there who are so PC they wouldn't recognize an on-coming train if the engine was black. I do NOT want anybody emailing me with bad news and if I come across as tactless I'd rather have that accusation than a "Your TECHNIQUE aborted my baby!!!" email.
I DO hope you understand. MANY women and many doctors do NOT know that G-Gasms are push out muscle contractions and very forceful at times. It mimics childbirth. The rest is just an extrapolation of the LOST ART of common sense.
No I am NOT a parent. What possible difference does that make to this discussion? My concern is for ANY baby out there who could possibly be harmed by the orgasm resulting from a GSpotting. The stats are too damn high to take those kinds of chances on an UNKNOWN and babies are too precious to GAMBLE with. Just my opinion and again I am NOT sorry you find my concern shocking and upsetting. Just TRY and understand what I'm saying.
I am NOT, as your email seems to imply, saying that natural childbirth resulting in an orgasm is likely to kill your baby. If you read that into my post may I suggest a class in reading comprehension. I have included a recent study on FOX NEWS about Orgasmic Childbirth. I wish you ALL the luck in the world pursuing that. Just be damn careful with the pre-game show. I will NOT enjoy coming on here and saying, " I TOLD YOU SO." If nothing happens then that's great.
AS far as "I know my body" .. fine. I've never claimed to know any woman's body better than she does herself (as long as she KNOWS about GSpots before) . If it feels right, fine. Good. However, your sensitivities aside, if my warning prevents just ONE premature baby (or worse) out there, I think I can live with you being upset and shocked at my attitude.
**one more edit to show how ridiculous .. and dangerous this can be**
in healthy low risk pregnancies (like mine) babies are only born when they are good and ready and not a moment before
And exactly WHAT gives YOU the knowledge that every woman reading this is, has or WILL experience a healthy low risk pregnancy? What I said to snowvixen .. there are women who never see a doctor during their pregnancy due to finances or location. There are women who go VERY VERY quickly from no-problem, low risk pregnancy to complications. I'm glad you happen to be so healthy an know EXACTLY what your body and every other woman's body is going to do during pregnancy and / or during G-Gasms. I'm only human, mortal and don't even have the ALL-KNOWING advice that some doctors think they have. I'm JUST trying to be careful. In my uneducated opinion it just is NOT worth the risk when so many factors are still unknown.
Snowvixen said:
the uterus DOES NOT contract as hard during a g-spot orgasm as it does during labor. Orgasms, no matter how intense, will not hurt the baby.
I'm NOT suggesting an orgasm is going to squirt the baby out. That's idiotic. What I'm saying and have been saying is that G-Gasms mimic the muscle contractions used during child birth. The stats show a HIGH percentage of pregnancies that terminate for UNKNOWN REASONS. If the body, for whatever reason, mistakes a G-Gasm for the readiness to give birth (don't forget all the hormones that are released too) then THAT could be initiated by the body resulting in a severely premature birth.
Please don't spread disinformation about sex and pregnancy.
If many doctors don't know the difference between the types of orgasms then how can they waive off on these types of orgasms? They can't. Also if those percentages of "terminated by/for UNKNOWN CAUSES" don't sound just a tad scary and worthy of some EXTRA caution when you know how G-Gasms, work then go ahead. It's up to YOU of course. I stand by my warning for mothers who don't particularly want to play Russian Roulette with their pregnancy.
**********************
FOXSexpert: Orgasms During Childbirth? It Happens
Monday, January 05, 2009
By Yvonne Fulbright
"Orgasmic" isn't exactly the first word most women use to describe childbirth. Yet thanks to a new DVD, "Orgasmic Birth," we're learning that birthing has perks beyond the miracle of life. For some women, this includes actual orgasms during delivery.
Regarded as "the best kept secret" of childbirth, women are curious about this seemingly unimaginable experience. How can childbirth possibly be climactic?
No matter how you look at it, birth is a sexual experience. That's going to make many of you cringe, but biologically it makes sense. The pleasures of birth allow for better mother-infant bonding. Far from perverse, orgasmic pleasures are a continuation of the act of conception itself. They're in the best interest of the baby, and an ideal starting point for healthy family relationships.
Orgasmic birth appears to be part of Mother Nature's master plan. Research conducted by Dr. Beverly Whipple in 1989, as well as others, indicates that orgasms can be induced in some women during childbirth. It is believed that this happens because of pressure from the baby's head on its mother's all-important hypogastric and pelvic nerve systems.
These nerves play a part in a woman's ability to experience vaginal, cervical and G-spot orgasms. Explaining orgasmic birth, OB-GYN Dr. Christiane Northrup said that as the baby moves through the birth canal, it actually stimulates all the pathways involved in sexual pleasure. Plus the stages of natural childbirth mimic one's normal sexual response in some ways; for example, breathing becomes faster and deeper.
Throw into the mix the release of oxytocin during childbirth and you have an even greater love-fest potential come delivery, D-day. This hormone lends itself to the uterine contractions and nipple erection a woman experiences during childbirth.
Furthermore, it dulls pain, actually producing stronger, more effective, even pleasurable contractions. Best yet, it can also make for orgasmic sensations, especially with the increase in ecstasy-producing beta-endorphins.
So now for the million-dollar question ... How does a woman experience such an orgasm? Strategies include:
— Overcoming your fears.
— Recognizing that you are a sexual being throughout pregnancy.
— Embracing the idea of over-the-top pleasure during childbirth.
— Allowing yourself to be open to orgasm.
Couples need to be given the privacy to boost the flow of oxytocin. This can be achieved via kissing, caressing and massage. Some couples even have intercourse prior to the water breaking.
Such affectionate exchanges allow the woman's partner to participate more in the birthing process, adding to this shared experience even more. The touching and nurturing can be very comforting to both partners.
In investigating "unexpected birthgasm" — spontaneous climax during labor without stimulation — Dr. Danielle Harel found that such a "passionate birth" involves a supportive partner who does things like hold her. Women who have birthgasms have a good sex life and are fully educated about childbirth.
Critical to Harel's findings is that the woman uses sexual stimulation to ease contractions, instead of anesthesia. According to the authors of "The Unofficial Guide to Having a Baby," one orgasm is believed to be 22 times as relaxing as the average tranquilizer.
Obviously, the birthing environment needs to be safe, secure, and uninterrupted. Keeping the delivery space stress-free is vital, since this helps to keep fear hormones that block oxytocin in check. These hormones prevent oxygen-rich blood from flowing to the uterus and sex organs, thwarting the body's ability to give birth smoothly.
More than anything, women who want to experience orgasmic births need to take control of their pregnancy and childbirth. Instead of handing their bodies over to medicine to speed labor, they need to work with non-interventive doctors or midwives. Synthetic hormones can actually make for contractions that are more painful, causing problems like rupture of the uterus.
Whether or not you hope to orgasm, couples need to investigate all of the different ways a woman can give birth. They are entitled to an experience that is positive and pleasurable. Childbirth can be approached as an event to be enjoyed and not something that women have to endure.
Childbirth can be emotionally, physically AND sexually fulfilling. Simple awareness of orgasmic birth may increase your chances of such a response. At the same time, women should be careful not to set themselves up for feelings of failure if they don't have an orgasm. When it comes to childbirth, everyone needs to expect the unexpected.
Dr. Yvonne K. Fulbright is a sex educator, relationship expert, columnist and founder of Sexuality Source Inc. She is the author of several books including, "Touch Me There! A Hands-On Guide to Your Orgasmic Hot Spots."
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,476244,00.html
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